Who are the candidates for these jobs?
Stockdale-
Garces-
East-
Highland-
Mira Monte-
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 05, 2014, 06:06:00 PM
Who are the candidates for these jobs?
Stockdale- CARR family plus Mahanke, Darren I believe has his credential now. This hire makes sense. A lot of experience playing/coaching offense and the ability to bring in/keep players with the name and reputation makes sense. And should appease the parents.
Garces- Antongiovanni makes sense here. True Garces guy, has a lot of experience including BC. But could also see them return to Fanucci with new admin. Here's a name to toss in also...Mike Lewis? Been an assistant and OC/DC at Frontier and West and a Garces product who had great success as a player.
East- who knows? no one wants this job because admin doesn't get it and they are losing a lot of athletes to garces and others. Probably someone trying to get their foot in the door as a head coach.
Highland- you thought East was bad! We all heard how they treated Montanio!!! Good luck to whoever they hire. Art Gonzalez is only guy on campus that has good experience but they passed him up last time.
Mira Monte- If you thought east and highland were bad!!! This is BY FAR the worst job in the KHSD. No support, got rid of all weightlifting classes. Can't keep good teachers let alone coaches there because no one wants to work for that principal.
I like Darren, but I don't believe that he is ready to be a head coach at stockdale. I can see this situation being very similar to the Independence deal where a BHS assistant goes and finds that the athletes and (at Stockdale) football is not held in the same regard as at Bakersfield High. I do believe that Darren would make a fine head coach but he needs to cut his teeth at a smaller program like Highland or east.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 06, 2014, 03:08:33 PM
I like Darren, but I don't believe that he is ready to be a head coach at stockdale. I can see this situation being very similar to the Independence deal where a BHS assistant goes and finds that the athletes and (at Stockdale) football is not held in the same regard as at Bakersfield High. I do believe that Darren would make a fine head coach but he needs to cut his teeth at a smaller program like Highland or east.
I agree with this post, however, I do think Coach Carr has very good resources, like Coach Golla to guide him.
Which could speed up that process to coach at a school like Stockdale.
Quote from: flexmac3 on February 06, 2014, 04:00:16 PM
I agree with this post, however, I do think Coach Carr has very good resources, like Coach Golla to guide him.
Which could speed up that process to coach at a school like Stockdale.
Coach Golla ain't gonna help him Clone, they are in the same league. They would be instant enemies!
Heard the following just in the last few days:
Regarding Mira Monte - Not a large pool of applicants, more than likely going to the Foothill JV Coach from this past season.
Regarding Highland - Probably going to an on staff coach there, was told they were seriously looking at North Valley Coach, but he withdrew yesterday, now probably stay within the school.
Regarding East - I've heard the Wasco Coach & the EB JV Coach from this past season.
Hey Clones...here's my take on these Bakersfield jobs...
Stockdale- while I believe there are many who get quite excited by the prospect of the Carr's (Darren) coming in and taking the program over, and it would be an interesting hire to say the least, but I am not sure this happens. The guy I think ends up being the head coach is former Liberty coach Chad Provensal. Chad has said that if the Stockdale job opened up it would "peak his interest". I think of all the available hires, Provensal would be the guy to take this to the next level. Another applicant is Ridgeview's Offense Coordinator Chris Bandy. Chris has great experience as Ridgeview has been as successful as any program around the past few years with a title in 2012, and 3 straight D3 finals appearances. Chris runs high powered offenses that are predicated on getting the athlete the ball in space. He would be an excellent hire.
Garces- rumors running wild about this one, especially from Garces "insiders/alumni" that this "has to be a TRUE Garces guy". Rumor is that John L Fanucchi is returning as head coach, or Tim Antongiovanni is a shoe in as the next head coach. The Antongiovanni rumor seems to have steam behind it. Another guy with his name in the hat is Frank Gonzales. If you remember when Maples was "placed on leave" in early August Gonzales was named "Interim" coach. Hiring him would ensure that the coaching staff that guided Garces to 3 straight D2 championships with a 2012 title would be in tact (minus Maples of course). Gonzales would seem to be a "seamless" transition that players, parents, and the alumni/insiders could get behind.
East- This job might be the least desirable of them all. The Principal brought in "his guy" only to fire him 2 years later. They are being placed in the "second tier" league, which they have little shot of winning given their current talent. Rumor was initially there were no applicants so they were reaching out to some coaches around town. Given the current state of this school, almost certainly this will be a young, first time hire coach with little name recognition. Whomever gets this job I sure wish them luck, and will be the first one to praise them if they can turn this one around because as it stands this one is awful.
Highland- this job has the most potential of all the "lower level" Bakersfield jobs. A name that I have heard being brought up for this job is Highland High legend Kevin Keyes. Kevin (who was the star RB on the last Highland team to beat BHS) is friends with several administrators at the school and would certainly get the backing previous coach didn't get. He would also bring a positive/nurturing/mentoring attitude that would energize the players. As long as he can surround himself with the right assistants I think he could turn Highland into a lower-level "gold mine".
Mira Monte- I am not sure the name of the guy, but from what I hear the Foothill JV coach wowed administration in his interview and is almost a shoe in. The good thing is coaching at Foothill he would seem to be familiar with the socio-economics of the population of the school.
Garces: Tim Anton has been past on twice why would this time be any different. Coach Frank Gonzales would be a great hire from within.
I can't imagine "wowing" the admin at Mira Monte would be very difficult, I'd guess fogging up a mirror and any shinny object would do it.
Van you do know that Thorpe was not fire, he resigned. As for Highland being any kind of "gold mine" thats just funny.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 06, 2014, 05:50:16 PM
I can't imagine "wowing" the admin at Mira Monte would be very difficult, I'd guess fogging up a mirror and any shinny object would do it.
Van you do know that Thorpe was not fire, he resigned. As for Highland being any kind of "gold mine" thats just funny.
Hey Teddy wasn't Thorp given an ultimatum then he resigned? In our business that sounds pretty much like being fired.
Quote from: Van Smack on February 06, 2014, 04:50:02 PM
Hey Clones...here's my take on these Bakersfield jobs...
Stockdale- while I believe there are many who get quite excited by the prospect of the Carr's (Darren) coming in and taking the program over, and it would be an interesting hire to say the least, but I am not sure this happens. The guy I think ends up being the head coach is former Liberty coach Chad Provensal. Chad has said that if the Stockdale job opened up it would "peak his interest". I think of all the available hires, Provensal would be the guy to take this to the next level. Another applicant is Ridgeview's Offense Coordinator Chris Bandy. Chris has great experience as Ridgeview has been as successful as any program around the past few years with a title in 2012, and 3 straight D3 finals appearances. Chris runs high powered offenses that are predicated on getting the athlete the ball in space. He would be an excellent hire.
provensal has been and is still trying to get a dean job. so unless he does it part time with teaching, it won't happen
I don't know Teddy all that well. But hes a d@mn funny guy! That foggy mirror thing at Mira Monte line was awesome! Here's the bottom line. Foothill & MM are one in the same. They probably don't have high expectations at MM if this is the route they're going. Mot saying tje Foothill JV Coach is a bad coach. Not saying he doesn't deserve an opportunity. But its apparent that its the same old moves being made within the east side schools. Im just curious whether or not there were any other applicants interviewed that had varsity coaching experience? And if there were, did this JC Coach really out interview those guys? If he did, kudos to him. I guess we'll all see soon who the next man will be at MM.
At Highland, again just today I spoke to a friend who's a campus supervisor there who's really close to one of the VP'S. Says to me that Highland was very interested in a North Valley Coach. Wouldn't go farther than that. But that coach withdrew as of today, not yesterday as I previously posted in error. Now I'm hearing an on campus guy and another off campus coach are being considered.
At East? Well good luck there with whomever knows. That place is in a weird situation.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 06, 2014, 05:50:16 PM
I can't imagine "wowing" the admin at Mira Monte would be very difficult, I'd guess fogging up a mirror and any shinny object would do it.
Haha! Hey Teddy a guy that just showed up to the interview at Mira Monte would "wow" the admin. Heck filling out an app for that job just "wows" me!
Some of you are throwing names out there that are not even in the KHSD, which means if a credentialed teacher/coach wants any of these jobs over a non-KHSD coach they get per their contract. Kevin Hayes not employed, Carr is a current sub at Highland but not officially hired as a KHSD employee. Dave Fanucci has applied for the Stockdale job, East offered him the world to go there, and Highland's principal would not return his call, so I'm sure he is out.
Mira Monte: Foothill JV coach is leading candidate, he did interview at Highland as well.
Highland: Brett Clark, Joe Cooper, Ray Oregan, and Art Gonzalez all applied. The rest were non-KHSD employees. Gonzalez was passed over previously, but the admin will probably go with him.
East: they are waiting on Fanucci and they are in no hurry. If they wait until the end of the month then they wait.
Just remember Joey Porter applied for the job at Foothill and was passed over by someone that does work in the district, teacher contracts state they have the right to any head coaching job held by a walk-on or non-KHSD employee
Quote from: GOALPOST on February 06, 2014, 05:37:43 PM
Garces: Tim Anton has been past on twice why would this time be any different. Coach Frank Gonzales would be a great hire from within.
Frank would stabilize the cast of players who are rumored to jump ship and the talented cast they have coming up from that freshman team to at least give them a fighting chance next year in D1 :u:
pwergame, I'm curious what "offering the world" means at east? Maybe lay off the clichés. east is the taint of the KHSD what can they possibly offer other than a PE job. Does this JV coach (foothill) have varsity experience? What I mean is does he know what it takes to run a varsity team and essentially a football program, play calling and X's & O's are the least of the criteria needed to build a program. Who has he learned from? I can see why a guy from the North Valley would pass on a job with the KHSD especially highland.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 07, 2014, 10:16:16 AM
pwergame, I'm curious what "offering the world" means at east? Maybe lay off the clichés. east is the taint of the KHSD what can they possibly offer other than a PE job. Does this JV coach (foothill) have varsity experience? What I mean is does he know what it takes to run a varsity team and essentially a football program, play calling and X's & O's are the least of the criteria needed to build a program. Who has he learned from? I can see why a guy from the North Valley would pass on a job with the KHSD especially highland.
Good point Teddy, most people haven't a clue as to what is actually needed to be a HC. Yes X's and O's are part of the equation, but certainly not everything.
BTW, help me out North Valley.... Where is that?
I meant northern part of the Central Valley, so above Tulare.
Quote from: DBLR12 on February 07, 2014, 09:55:24 AM
Frank would stabilize the cast of players who are rumored to jump ship and the talented cast they have coming up from that freshman team to at least give them a fighting chance next year in D1 :u:
Players rumored to be jumping ship? Wow, sounds interesting. Have any specifics?
Teddy, a couple of answers to your questions: I've asked also and been told that for the MM job, the Foothill JV Coach is the guy, has no varsity experience. Pretty amazing that they went that route.
For HIS, I was able to find out the the north valley Cosch was a Fresno guy. Pulled his name sometime yesterday.
Quote from: PigIron on February 07, 2014, 12:34:38 PM
Players rumored to be jumping ship? Wow, sounds interesting. Have any specifics?
Lol...well Croney has been rumored every sense the word came down about maples but I really can't see him leaving for his senior year unless the new coach completely over hauls the Offense. Their are 3 key freshman that I hear might make the jump to other D1 schools and 2 already live in district. If that happens I can see a big ripple affect and no one even blinking an eye at the entrance of garces in to the power league!Not that they would anyways.
Quote from: DBLR12 on February 07, 2014, 01:32:39 PM
Lol...well Croney has been rumored every sense the word came down about maples but I really can't see him leaving for his senior year unless the new coach completely over hauls the Offense. Their are 3 key freshman that I hear might make the jump to other D1 schools and 2 already live in district. If that happens I can see a big ripple affect and no one even blinking an eye at the entrance of garces in to the power league!Not that they would anyways.
Im no Garces fan, but I hope Garces bring the right folks on board, and embrace all the things that come with being a private school.
I love that Garces is in the SWYL, and I hope Garces do well. Cant wait for Garces to be D1 one day.
Hey BCHS, same goes for you, go big :u:
:u:
Quote from: flexmac3 on February 07, 2014, 01:44:09 PM
Im no Garces fan, but I hope Garces bring the right folks on board, and embrace all the things that come with being a private school.
I love that Garces is in the SWYL, and I hope Garces do well. Cant wait for Garces to be D1 one day.
Hey BCHS, same goes for you, go big :u:
I am a Garces fan and agree 100% regarding embracement of the school. Pick the right person for the school who is a strong leader. DO NOT pick someone because you are afraid someone might transfer. No student athlete is bigger than the program you must build. If you are a strong leader with a sound philosophy, great organizational skills, a communicator and build a program based upon integrity and courage you will get all the athletes you need to be competitive. The program should move in one direction - forward.
Quote from: dirtbag on February 07, 2014, 02:34:57 PM
:u:I am a Garces fan and agree 100% regarding embracement of the school. Pick the right person for the school who is a strong leader. DO NOT pick someone because you are afraid someone might transfer. No student athlete is bigger than the program you must build. If you are a strong leader with a sound philosophy, great organizational skills, a communicator and build a program based upon integrity and courage you will get all the athletes you need to be competitive. The program should move in one direction - forward.
I totally agree with you on that !!
Quote from: dirtbag on February 07, 2014, 02:34:57 PM
:u:I am a Garces fan and agree 100% regarding embracement of the school. Pick the right person for the school who is a strong leader. DO NOT pick someone because you are afraid someone might transfer. No student athlete is bigger than the program you must build. If you are a strong leader with a sound philosophy, great organizational skills, a communicator and build a program based upon integrity and courage you will get all the athletes you need to be competitive. The program should move in one direction - forward.
Look wins and losses can't "move forward" much more from where it has been the past few years. Moving into SWYL and with a brutal pre-league schedule if "the right guy" isn't hired then this could mean a long year for the Rams. I am not sure parental and booster support would be at an all time high if they don't post a good record and make the valley finals. Bottom line is anything less than competing for SWYL and Valley title would mean that anybody who is not a school/diocese administrator will be calling for this coach's job after the season, or maybe even before.
At Garces the past 3 years have been Head Coach takes care of the Admin, Teachers, Parents, Grades, Service Hours and Dt Shipp Frank and Eric coach the team to 3 straight valley games.
With the right leader and if staff stays no problem with SWYL.
Quote from: dirtbag on February 07, 2014, 02:34:57 PM
:u:I am a Garces fan and agree 100% regarding embracement of the school. Pick the right person for the school who is a strong leader. DO NOT pick someone because you are afraid someone might transfer. No student athlete is bigger than the program you must build. If you are a strong leader with a sound philosophy, great organizational skills, a communicator and build a program based upon integrity and courage you will get all the athletes you need to be competitive. The program should move in one direction - forward.
I agree totally but the problem with all the schools looking for a coach is there not giving the proper time to build a programme....take a look at Thorpe....If you don't win at any level then your out. some one put it best in another thread coaches are set up to fail! Everyone wants instant gratification and I can see a parent or player nervous about a new coach coming because they feel they only have one shoot at getting it right and a chance to play at the next level and not have to be apart of an experiment!!
Quote from: GOALPOST on February 07, 2014, 03:50:59 PM
At Garces the past 3 years have been Head Coach takes care of the Admin, Teachers, Parents, Grades, Service Hours and Dt Shipp Frank and Eric coach the team to 3 straight valley games.
With the right leader and if staff stays no problem with SWYL.
:huh: :huh: :huh:
Tim Anton should be the Garces new HC. After being passed over by the Board and Mgsnr B it should be his turn.
The problem is that he may not want it after all the negative Garces admin and Mgsnr B crap.
Until they get rid of people up at G who are in it for Social Climbing and thoroughly clean ship at all levels it will be a ship of fools.
Garces needs to return to a faith based educational institution instead of money based. Money does not buy your way into heaven.
Quote from: Driller Fan on February 10, 2014, 11:16:44 AM
Garces needs to return to a faith based educational institution instead of money based. Money does not buy your way into heaven.
Hold on there... what year do you think this is? 1517? .... that's crazy talk... :D ;)
Quote from: Driller Fan on February 10, 2014, 11:16:44 AM
Until they get rid of people up at G who are in it for Social Climbing and thoroughly clean ship at all levels it will be a ship of fools.
Garces needs to return to a faith based educational institution instead of money based. Money does not buy your way into heaven.
:huh: :huh: this is some nonsensical mumbo jumbo..... "social climbing", "ship of fools", and "money doesn't buy your way into heaven"??? Has somebody been doing a bit of boozing?? Sucking back on grandpa's old cough medicine??
Back to the topic at hand... the rumor mill is that one of the applicants for the GMHSVHC job is the former St. Bonaventure coach (two-time state champ winning - recently released). Seems like there might be some prospects with some serious varsity football HC track records from which to choose.
Quote from: mw1 on February 10, 2014, 01:50:09 PM
Back to the topic at hand... the rumor mill is that one of the applicants for the GMHSVHC job is the former St. Bonaventure coach (two-time state champ winning - recently released). Seems like there might be some prospects with some serious varsity football HC track records from which to choose.
Todd Therrion is the former St. Bonaventure coach who won 2 state titles for the Seraphs a few years ago. He applied for the Garces job. Some other applicants include former East, Liberty and Bakersfield Blitz coach Rick Van Horn. Former Garces JV coach/assistant athletic director and current BC assistant Jeff Crosby also has applied. Word is there are about 20 applicants so far.
Quote from: mw1 on February 10, 2014, 01:50:09 PM
:huh: :huh: this is some nonsensical mumbo jumbo..... "social climbing", "ship of fools", and "money doesn't buy your way into heaven"??? Has somebody been doing a bit of boozing?? Sucking back on grandpa's old cough medicine??
Back to the topic at hand... the rumor mill is that one of the applicants for the GMHSVHC job is the former St. Bonaventure coach (two-time state champ winning - recently released). Seems like there might be some prospects with some serious varsity football HC track records from which to choose.
Im not into rumors, but if Garces decides to interview coaches like that, then Garces philosophy will change. Good for Garces, in my opinion.
Garces looking for long term solution. Some of those named have applied before and not thinking anything would change with what they thought before. If the big name wants the job great, if not they stay in house with coach Frank.
Why did Therrion leave St. Bonny?
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 10, 2014, 04:40:16 PM
Why did Therrion leave St. Bonny?
What does it matter? Are you resorting to your usual muckraking?
Quote from: Van Smack on February 10, 2014, 03:12:14 PM
Todd Therrion is the former St. Bonaventure coach who won 2 state titles for the Seraphs a few years ago. He applied for the Garces job. Some other applicants include former East, Liberty and Bakersfield Blitz coach Rick Van Horn. Former Garces JV coach/assistant athletic director and current BC assistant Jeff Crosby also has applied. Word is there are about 20 applicants so far.
Those names all sound great and all, but I thought the interview process was completely confidential. How would anyone other than a Board Member or Mr. Fanucci know the identity of the applicants at this point? I am also somewhat suspect of some of the names on this list. As far as I know, there is no "on campus" position available to offer the new coach. How would that attract a coach from out of the area? As for Coach Frank, I thought he would be out of the picture now that he has been promoted to Lt. on the police force.
I would guess redneck, that maybe the applicants commented to their friends that they applied or a person at the school commented that so & so applied and they told some one that told some one.
I'm curious about the job situation at the all 4 of the other schools that have vacant head jobs, is there teaching jobs available at Highland, east and MM? It will be interesting to see what happens with Snow at Stockdale, I know he does PE and if the next guy is a PE guy what the plans of the admin are.
Quote from: Redneckgirl on February 10, 2014, 05:08:09 PM
Those names all sound great and all, but I thought the interview process was completely confidential. How would anyone other than a Board Member or Mr. Fanucci know the identity of the applicants at this point? I am also somewhat suspect of some of the names on this list. As far as I know, there is no "on campus" position available to offer the new coach. How would that attract a coach from out of the area? As for Coach Frank, I thought he would be out of the picture now that he has been promoted to Lt. on the police force.
I'm pretty sure there's a principal, director of facilities and AD job available. :cry:
Quote from: Redneckgirl on February 10, 2014, 05:08:09 PM
Those names all sound great and all, but I thought the interview process was completely confidential. How would anyone other than a Board Member or Mr. Fanucci know the identity of the applicants at this point? I am also somewhat suspect of some of the names on this list. As far as I know, there is no "on campus" position available to offer the new coach. How would that attract a coach from out of the area? As for Coach Frank, I thought he would be out of the picture now that he has been promoted to Lt. on the police force.
Frank has applied, he got the ok from his bosses at BPD. As far as on campus positions, the word is that one is going to be made for the new coach (AD maybe?). Be as suspect of these names as you want Clonette, but I think Therrion would be an interesting hire especially since Garces plays St. Bonnie's the next 2 years and he won multiple state titles there. Also him being an out of town guy would mean he probably would keep the current staff of assistants; Shipp, Eric, Sacchini, Frank, and DT. Would be a great hire for Garces.
I thought all the assistants were let go also. I got this info from an unimpeachable source, this board on another thread.
No just Maples fired.
Quote from: bear07 on February 10, 2014, 06:15:51 PM
I thought all the assistants were let go also. I got this info from an unimpeachable source, this board on another thread.
I would imagine that the new Head Football Coach would decide what assistants would remain & who would leave - unless the administration wanted it another way. Bottom line - it's there call :shock:. I'm sure there are some outstanding assistant coaches at Garces who, if given the opportunity , would love to continue there work within an expanding program. They have been very successful & that goes to the credibility of the Staff !!
Just talked to RVH, and he did not apply for the Garces job.
Quote from: shafteralum on February 11, 2014, 06:28:07 AM
Just talked to RVH, and he did not apply for the Garces job.
further proof that van shmuck is clueless...
Quote from: Redneckgirl on February 10, 2014, 05:08:09 PM
... I thought the interview process was completely confidential. How would anyone other than a Board Member or Mr. Fanucci know the identity of the applicants at this point?
Hahahahaha.... that is probably the funniest comment I have read in a while. Wait, are you being serious????
Quote from: mw1 on February 11, 2014, 08:34:12 AM
Hahahahaha.... that is probably the funniest comment I have read in a while. Wait, are you being serious????
Uh . . . It's called sarcasm. But, it appears my incredulity was correct, given the report that Coach Van Horne did not really apply. How many of the others did not really apply? We won't know until we see which coach is selected. I truly hope it is someone like Thierren who can get these kids excited again. The mood among many of the younger football players I know and know of has been very poor since Maples' firing was announced. I am encouraged to hear that this decision will at least be made soon and by the entire Board--not just one or two persons. We shall see.
Quote from: Redneckgirl on February 11, 2014, 01:09:07 PM
Uh . . . It's called sarcasm. But, it appears my incredulity was correct, given the report that Coach Van Horne did not really apply. How many of the others did not really apply? We won't know until we see which coach is selected. I truly hope it is someone like Thierren who can get these kids excited again. The mood among many of the younger football players I know and know of has been very poor since Maples' firing was announced. I am encouraged to hear that this decision will at least be made soon and by the entire Board--not just one or two persons. We shall see.
Why are you encouraged that the decision will be made by the entire board?????? Whom exactly on the board is qualified to make this decision???? Garces enjoyed John L. for 27 years and David F. for 7 more; since then the "board" has wiffed :shy:
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 10, 2014, 04:40:16 PM
Why did Therrion leave St. Bonny?
Not really sure it was stated that it was a personal matter!
Quote from: tailgator on February 11, 2014, 03:20:43 PM
Why are you encouraged that the decision will be made by the entire board?????? Whom exactly on the board is qualified to make this decision???? Garces enjoyed John L. for 27 years and David F. for 7 more; since then the "board" has wiffed :shy:
I won't pretend to know the inner-workings of the board, but I was of the impression that the hiring decisions of Roberts and Maples were made by the Admin and not the Board. Regardless, how can you say they "whiffed" with the last two hires? Three Valley Championship appearances in 3 years? 34-6 record? What was Dave Fanucci's record after he won Valley in 2006?
Not always a fan of Boards or Committees making a football hire. Remember a camel is a horse designed by a committee. Should be someone, AD, Principal or President who makes the call based on interviews and recommendations. Since the AD and Principal are "lame ducks" looks like the president will have to make the call. You may not like the Fanuccis, but they do care an awful lot about the school.
Not to be picky but it is Fanucchi
Quote from: Redneckgirl on February 12, 2014, 09:37:01 AM
I won't pretend to know the inner-workings of the board, but I was of the impression that the hiring decisions of Roberts and Maples were made by the Admin and not the Board. Regardless, how can you say they "whiffed" with the last two hires? Three Valley Championship appearances in 3 years? 34-6 record? What was Dave Fanucci's record after he won Valley in 2006?
Point being, during John and David's 30+ year coaching career at Garces the "Board" didn't have to make any HFC'ing decisions;al of a sudden they're saddled with the responsibility of hiring a new leader, they chose one and Coach Mapes led the Rams to a VC and a runner-up.....then they decide to "go another direction" and fire him :huh: I'm pretty sure the Diocese acted with input from the "Board"; they "whiffed" and flipped on their hire. I told you back in '12 after he won the VC that the admin and company wouldn't get out of his way and just let him coach.........Why should the "Board" be allowed to fumble the process again :huh:
Quote from: tailgator on February 12, 2014, 11:27:50 AM
Point being, during John and David's 30+ year coaching career at Garces the "Board" didn't have to make any HFC'ing decisions;al of a sudden they're saddled with the responsibility of hiring a new leader, they chose one and Coach Mapes led the Rams to a VC and a runner-up.....then they decide to "go another direction" and fire him :huh: I'm pretty sure the Diocese acted with input from the "Board"; they "whiffed" and flipped on their hire. I told you back in '12 after he won the VC that the admin and company wouldn't get out of his way and just let him coach.........Why should the "Board" be allowed to fumble the process again :huh:
Interesting. Does getting out of the way mean letting a guy do whatever he wants? Maybe the ends didn't justify the means. I don't know anymore than anybody else in this specific case. Morals, ethics and standards have to mean something don't they? If the only way for you to be successful as a high school coach is by blurring the lines then maybe you should sell used cars. JMO
Quote from: bear07 on February 12, 2014, 01:39:09 PM
Interesting. Does getting out of the way mean letting a guy do whatever he wants? Maybe the ends didn't justify the means. I don't know anymore than anybody else in this specific case. Morals, ethics and standards have to mean something don't they? If the only way for you to be successful as a high school coach is by blurring the lines then maybe you should sell used cars. JMO
I don't know who Tailgator is, but I can tell he knows what he is talking about when commenting on Garces. In my opinion, getting out of the way as an administration means stop running down to the sideline during a game when GMHS gets up by three touchdowns in the first quarter and demanding that the court start substituting 3rd and 4th stingers. It means backing your coach and your AD when the CIF makes some ridiculous demand, like forfeiting the gate from the Kingsburg playoff game because the Rams did not use the correct Spalding brand football. I know and respect Coach Maples well and he did nothing immoral or unethical--unless you consider taking on the KHSD as immoral. He has been a thorn in the side of KHSD for over ten years and the District finally put enough pressure on Garces to "go a different direction." This is only my humble opinion, but is seems pretty evident. And, if they hire some throw back to the stone-age, who wants to revert to the good old days when they ran that funky looking old Wing offense, then I don't think the District will have to worry about Garces becoming a powerhouse anytime soon.
redneck you never seize to amaze me, just when I think you have reached the absolute pinnacle of foolishness you go and surpass your own water mark!
The problem I see at all 4: garces, eb. MM and Highland is that the admin ,as tailgator said, fumbled the process of hiring a coach:
east: Thorp 3 seasons
Highland: Montanio 2 seasons
MM: Clark 2 seasons
garces: maples 2 seasons
How do you as an admin, whom ever has the final say, not have a clear cut plan as to what they want in a canidate and then use the interview process to fill that need? What the heck exactly goes on during these interview? Does the admin not inform the HC of what their vision for the program is? It is absoultly insane to me that all 4 of these schools had guys in place only 2-3 years.
From what I understand there are 14 applicants for the Stockdale job, supposedly thats what Ewing tweeted...
Quote from: Redneckgirl on February 12, 2014, 02:33:29 PM
It means backing your coach and your AD when the CIF makes some ridiculous demand, like forfeiting the gate from the Kingsburg playoff game because the Rams did not use the correct Spalding brand football.
The central section cif has a contract with Spalding, and has made it known that there would be penalties for not using a Spalding ball during the playoffs. As a sidenote, every kick at the state level must be done with a Nike football. No exceptions.
Maples 2 seasons. Only person to blames is Maples. He had a great job and blew it. That's on him not the Admin, Board or Diocese.
goal I don't dispute that, and by no means excusing or defending Maples, but wouldn't it make sense to blame the people that hired him? After all they went thru an interview process and determined that he was the best fit to be the head of their football program. I understand that there was some pressure by outside sources to get rid of him. Same question for Clark at MM and Montanio, doesn't this show how incompetent and unprepared the admin at these schools really is? Is this same lazy half-baked interview process the same they use to hire teachers?
I wonder if we would even be talking about Garces hiring a new coach if some rat assistant coach that Maples trusted didn't record a conversation that happened in a private room in Bill Lee's and then turned that recording over to Stan Greene of the KHSD.
Quote from: Van Smack on February 12, 2014, 06:18:57 PM
I wonder if we would even be talking about Garces hiring a new coach if some rat assistant coach that Maples trusted didn't record a conversation that happened in a private room in Bill Lee's and then turned that record over to Stan Greene of the KHSD.
Yea we would....sooner or later he would have done something to erk the people that didn't like him up on the hill! So why fight the inevitable!
Quote from: DBLR12 on February 12, 2014, 10:04:51 PM
Yea we would....sooner or later he would have done something to erk the people that didn't like him up on the hill! So why fight the inevitable!
I was thinking the same thing..... :u:
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 12, 2014, 05:40:07 PM
goal I don't dispute that, and by no means excusing or defending Maples, but wouldn't it make sense to blame the people that hired him? After all they went thru an interview process and determined that he was the best fit to be the head of their football program. I understand that there was some pressure by outside sources to get rid of him. Same question for Clark at MM and Montanio, doesn't this show how incompetent and unprepared the admin at these schools really is? Is this same lazy half-baked interview process the same they use to hire teachers?
I can't believe I'm saying this but Tedd's finally starting to get it ;) Let's be fair and set aside personal agendas and biases for a moment. Coach Mapes was interviewed and hired as Roberts DC 2 years prior to Mapes' HC stint. At the start of his 2nd year under Roberts, Mapes was promoted to assistant HC by Roberts and took on most of the "off-field" BS from Roberts. Once Roberts announced his resignation Coach Mapes had to go through the same application and interview process as all the other applicants. The admin kind of shunned Coach during the process not communicating with him essentially leaving him "in the dark" about his future. To his and his staff's credit and without any assurances that they'd be returning, they collectively opted to continue to show up every morning at 6am and after school so not to "dump" on the returning Rams; by their actions the admin and "board" appeared to have cared less about the importance of the off-season training program. Once the exhaustive process was finally completed Coach Mapes got the call he had hoped to receive. Personally I think Coach and staff showed tremendous character throughout that senseless adversity. Set aside his progressive thinking by junking the old system and bringing in his spread offense, breaking practically every "O" record in the Rams history books he also brought home their first D-II VC. The "board" and admin had three years to assess Coach Mapes' strengths and weaknesses and elected business as usual heading into his 4th season. A rogue assistant nothing coach secretly records a meeting, what a worm.......I'll tell you right now: THERE IS NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE ON THAT RECORDING, that's why he was reinstated after a short 8-day research project. The CIF, KHSD nor the Superintendent levied a grand total of zero accusations or disciplinary actions against Coach. Garces "wiffed" here; if Coach was solely operating outside the guidelines or expectations of the Garces way then MAN-UP and meet with him and discuss the problems, (if any) and explain to him what is expected; I can assure you that that never happened, instead they take the easy way out and fire him so to avoid an adult conversation :d: Whether you agree with Coach or not do you seriously think that the high powered southern section schools don't have yearly conflicts between coaches and admin???? Do they knee-jerk and fire their successful coaches or do they sit down, close the door and have it out, then get up, shake hands and continue on like grown-ups :huh: Just Say'in
Tailgator, what off field BS did Maples take from Roberts? Again if there is nothing on those tapes, why did he act as if he had something to hide? It was very bizarre to me. I'm sure if you talk to him he'd probably say looking back he made some mistakes. But to judge him or compare his coaching record with the new guy or even Dave F in the past is not apples to apples argument. #1 He coached a team that had a good non league schedule but arguably the weakest league in the entire section. If you win every game 3 years straight, it's time to change leagues. Particularly if the scores aren't close which they weren't, albeit Tehachapi. Sorry! If the central section is all about competitive balance, than the leagues should align.
You need to give credit where credit due. It is more difficult to prepare for a difficult non league then a cupcake league then go into D2 playoffs sharp to be in the valley finals in back to back years. That coaching staff did a great job dealing with that.
As for the tapes I have to think there was nothing there if they put him right back to HC. It was the lawsuit he filed that may have got him his walking papers. He may be right about being illegally taped but Garces head wants no part of that. CIF guys dislike Garces as it is and they need no extra baggage with them.
You are right about if he looked back about mistakes made. He had his dream job and angered the boss.
Garces fans are just hoping the staff stays. Solid group of coaches from Varsity to Frosh. New head coach has good foundation to start off with.
Goal Post, no one has yet answer the question. if there was nothing on those tapes, why does the lawsuit get filed? Supposedly no harm was done, right? He went right back to his job after the diocese cleared him. Ok great.. Not a big deal. But he was so bitter and couldn't let it go. So he went with the axe to grind. It's bold but never good. If this was a chess match, that move loses the match. What exactly was he hoping to gain from this? The public isn't stupid. They understand anything related would cause backlash and it did. Ultimately the axe to grind move backfired.
Of course the non league was more challenging than the league, both competition and timing of the games. With Garces being in that league it was an automatic 5 wins per year. If they go 2-3 or 3-2 every year in non league which is definitely in the cards you're looking at 7 to 8 wins a year and a high seed in D2 every season. To me with Croney and all that talent they had, it would not seem a difficult task with Maples.
Money thats why. Lawsuit filed for illegal taping then Kern School District and CIF sharing it with others. Not what is on the tape but the tape itself and how it was distributed. Hoping for a big payday I guess. But cost him the coaching job. To bad, he had a good thing going.
GHF, Its well documented that I am not a fan of maples, but to quote Dlion: it's whats right not who's right. It doesn't matter if there wasn't anything "incriminating" or bad or illegal on those tapes. No one has the right to record you without your concent! His (maple's) character, antics, shenanigans, or whatever doesn't give a guy or agency the right to infringe on a person's constitutional rights! Now I agree he could, if he had the sense that a billy goat was afforded, spun this in his favor and said here are the tapes...have at it and put the fire out! But again, that takes a shred of intelligence and maples has never been accused of being the smartest person in the room. As for the assistant that secretly recorded the metting, what an absolute POS! What guy would want to coach with that rat b-----d, I can see if there was discussion of felony or criminal wrong doing and this guy felt lives were at stake, but it's freakin' high school sports!!! I know I wouldn't want this guy on my staff! Again, it physically hurts me to not be on the side bashing maples here!
Highland should be announcing their HC on Tuesday or Wednesday, they went with the JV Foothill coach. Heard they had even sat down with Dave F. Could have gone with the guy they passed up before, but who knows what the hell admin is thinking at these east side schools.
So if Highland goes with the Foothill JV Coach, then who does Mira Monte go with now? I thought the guy going to MM was a done deal there. The games continue with the KHSD.
For anyone's information, Foothill's JV Coach is Mike Gutierrez. He an Independent Studies teacher as well.
Quote from: LibertyPatriotsFootball on February 17, 2014, 09:07:19 PM
For anyone's information, Foothill's JV Coach is Mike Gutierrez. He an Independent Studies teacher as well.
Congratulations Coach & good luck to you / your staff / your program / your kids / and your school :u:
Regardless of what was on those tapes, perception is 9/10 reality and that is the way people perceive it, right, wrong, or indifferent.
Quote from: UnbiasedOne on February 18, 2014, 08:03:03 AM
Regardless of what was on those tapes, perception is 9/10 reality and that is the way people perceive it, right, wrong, or indifferent.
this is exactly why I said if maples had any sense at all he would have turned those tapes over to a media outlet and taken the wind out of those sails...but alas he has no sense.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 18, 2014, 01:06:34 PM
this is exactly why I said if maples had any sense at all he would have turned those tapes over to a media outlet and taken the wind out of those sails...but alas he has no sense.
Agreed, but it didnt matter anyway, Maples was already done at Garces, Maples no sense, matches the Garces administration.
Has anyone heard about Stockdale and when they plan on picking a HC?? It amazes me how long these admins take to make the same old mistakes over and over...lol! or is it the illusion that things are diffrent this time!!
I heard that the "brain trust" at Stockdale plan to interview the candidates and make a decision by the end of March. The Drillers have been going since January when they return from Christmas Break...good luck beating them when you're 3 months behind.
Mike Gutierrez at Highland ...
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 15, 2014, 11:12:52 AM
GHF, Its well documented that I am not a fan of maples, but to quote Dlion: it's whats right not who's right. It doesn't matter if there wasn't anything "incriminating" or bad or illegal on those tapes.
Teddy, fyi, a little, Dlion bird told me, albeit posthumously... from the cvhs graveyard, that seeing a reference to one of his past quotes fills him with a warm-fuzzy feeling.
Good luck to Gutierrez at Highland.
Also talked to a EBHS person today. It appears they've made a decision. And they'e having a 1:00pm press conference on Friday to announce.
East side schools are moving now. Mira Monte, you're on the clock.
Fanucchi accepted the job at East.
Quote from: mw1 on February 19, 2014, 02:07:15 PM
Teddy, fyi, a little, Dlion bird told me, albeit posthumously... from the cvhs graveyard, that seeing a reference to one of his past quotes fills him with a warm-fuzzy feeling.
I was wondering where Dlion has been, do they not have wifi in the state run institution he's in? Anyway, next time you visit him and he's talking to you thru the bullet proof glass tell him ol' Teddy says hi...and don't drop the soap!
Who are the leading candidates for the Stockdale & Garces jobs? Have these schools announced when a coach will be hired?
Stockdale had 14 ( I believe was the #) applicants they plan to announce or make a decision by the end of March.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 19, 2014, 05:07:44 PM
Stockdale had 14 ( I believe was the #) applicants they plan to announce or make a decision by the end of March.
Are the majority of the 14 local guys? Any favorites for the job?
I would guess that the vast majority are probably already in the KHSD, I don't believe there are any jobs open at Stockdale but the admin can make a job...unless they choose not to, which is what lead to the current opening. As for favorites, no idea but by the climate there at Stockdale I would guess that a guy more like Tyrone Willingham has an edge over a guy like Charlie Wise.
Quote from: shafteralum on February 19, 2014, 02:38:58 PM
Fanucchi accepted the job at East.
Hopefully a man like Coach Fanucchi knows what he's getting into at East!!....Good Luck Coach! :u:
Quote from: DBLR12 on February 20, 2014, 08:36:48 AM
Hopefully a man like Coach Fanucchi knows what he's getting into at East!!....Good Luck Coach! :u:
Coach Fanucchi was an assistant there for a couple years.
I believe the school admin sought him out as their guy.
I think he knows what he's getting into. The head on a
swivel approach should work.
Dave just wants to be a head coach again. Look for him to bring his friends to fill the staff and continue to go 2-8 because that's just what they are at this point. Like him, did a ok job at Garces but had superior talent to work with.
If East is going to continue to go 2-8 under Fanucchi, what does that say about the Highland coach who has only Mira Monte OC experience at the varsity level? Plus I am really curious to why Highland's admin went with Guteirrez over Dave or Art Gonzales who the players and parents thought was going to get it. I can't say that it is because of the great coaching experience Mike has. I wish Dave and Mike both luck because they are going to need it coaching at these east side schools.
The problem is we've all seen this show before and unfortunately we know the ending! They have two years top before the firing squad is out! :cry:
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 20, 2014, 07:50:42 AM
I would guess that the vast majority are probably already in the KHSD, I don't believe there are any jobs open at Stockdale but the admin can make a job...unless they choose not to, which is what lead to the current opening. As for favorites, no idea but by the climate there at Stockdale I would guess that a guy more like Tyrone Willingham has an edge over a guy like Charlie Wise.
Why would you say that?
Anyone have an idea when Garces will make a decision on who the new head coach will be?
Information I have is that the Admin selected a committee of alum and boosters last week who will interview the select few out of the 20 applicants who have applied. No idea who is on the committee or when interviews will be held. Also, not sure who will make then final decision, if that is in the hands of John Fanucci alone or whether it is a Board decision. All I know is that everyone from coaches, parents, student-athletes and supporters or getting very anxious. Seems like this process takes forever!
its sounds like the garces and Stockdale are dragging this thing out way longer than needed.
Has Mira Monte mentioned their hire yet?
Quote from: Redneckgirl on February 25, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
Information I have is that the Admin selected a committee of alum and boosters last week who will interview the select few out of the 20 applicants who have applied. No idea who is on the committee or when interviews will be held. Also, not sure who will make then final decision, if that is in the hands of John Fanucci alone or whether it is a Board decision. All I know is that everyone from coaches, parents, student-athletes and supporters or getting very anxious. Seems like this process takes forever!
Any idea on who applied or who some of their top candidates are?
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 25, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
Any idea on who applied or who some of their top candidates are?
Top candidate is Todd Therrion, 2-time state championship winning coach formerly of St.Bonaventure.
QuoteTop candidate is Todd Therrion, 2-time state championship winning coach formerly of St.Bonaventure.
You think this guy has the experience to build a program? That's impressive in itself. This will be more of a story if
he doesn't get that job. Because if they pass over this caliber of a coach that speaks volumes.
Quote from: Van Smack on February 25, 2014, 04:29:13 PM
Top candidate is Todd Therrion, 2-time state championship winning coach formerly of St.Bonaventure.
A winning coach with a history of on the field and off the field problems. Didn't Garces just fire a guy like that?
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 25, 2014, 05:59:41 PM
A winning coach with a history of on the field and off the field problems. Didn't Garces just fire a guy like that?
Coach T can coach but will not put up with daddyball.
Quote from: dude63 on February 25, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Coach T can coach but will not put up with daddyball.
I don't know the guy or what the situation was but heard from a baseball coach in the Ventura area that the guy is black balled from coaching in that area? I don't think that is the result of not playing daddyball
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 25, 2014, 06:39:17 PM
I don't know the guy or what the situation was but heard from a baseball coach in the Ventura area that the guy is black balled from coaching in that area? I don't think that is the result of not playing daddyball
Never any word about him being blackballed over here. I do know that he was an assistant coach (OC) at one of the local area teams last season.
Quote from: Van Smack on February 25, 2014, 04:29:13 PM
Top candidate is Todd Therrion, 2-time state championship winning coach formerly of St.Bonaventure.
I'm thinking that the level of kids he gets at Graces will be a little different. More importantly the differential in the level of talent between his new team and his opponents now I think will be a bit tighter. Right Teddy?
Quote from: dude63 on February 25, 2014, 06:48:45 PM
Never any word about him being blackballed over here. I do know that he was an assistant coach (OC) at one of the local area teams last season.
You're talking about Thousand Oaks area, correct? That's not Ventura or Oxnard, T.O. operates seperately of those others.
Quote from: GoldenHawksFootball on February 25, 2014, 04:34:02 PM
You think this guy has the experience to build a program? That's impressive in itself. This will be more of a story if
he doesn't get that job. Because if they pass over this caliber of a coach that speaks volumes.
He's won 2 state titles and played the best the southern section has to offer. Let's be honest there isn't much "building a program" to be done at Garces. More like turn those 3 straight D2 valley championship appereances and only 1 win into 3 wins and state bowl birth. There is nobody with better experience to do that then this guy. If they do pass on this guy then they are wanting the football program to take 2 steps back, not 2 steps forward. It would be ridiculous.
I think that the Garces job just might be the best one out there . Coach Therrion would be an outstanding candidate but I'll bet there are some other very experienced & successful Head Coaches who would also be interested - esp if The Rams are interested in bumping up the ante to compete in that new conference & in becoming a dominate Football Program in the central section 8) and state.
Quote from: Bronco on February 25, 2014, 09:22:01 PM
I think that the Garces job just might be the best one out there . Coach Therrion would be an outstanding candidate but I'll bet there are some other very experienced & successful Head Coaches who would also be interested - esp if The Rams are interested in bumping up the ante to compete in that new conference & in becoming a dominate Football Program in the central section 8) and state.
100% agree with this post.
Quote from: Van Smack on February 25, 2014, 08:38:01 PM
He's won 2 state titles and played the best the southern section has to offer. Let's be honest there isn't much "building a program" to be done at Garces. More like turn those 3 straight D2 valley championship appereances and only 1 win into 3 wins and state bowl birth. There is nobody with better experience to do that then this guy. If they do pass on this guy then they are wanting the football program to take 2 steps back, not 2 steps forward. It would be ridiculous.
Agree 100% with you
Quote from: Grizz51 on February 25, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
You're talking about Thousand Oaks area, correct? That's not Ventura or Oxnard, T.O. operates seperately of those others.
It was the only job opening available that close to the start of the season.
Who is on the Garces Search Committee?. Also has the committee interviewed anyone yet?
Quote from: Bronco on February 25, 2014, 09:22:01 PM
I think that the Garces job just might be the best one out there . Coach Therrion would be an outstanding candidate but I'll bet there are some other very experienced & successful Head Coaches who would also be interested - esp if The Rams are interested in bumping up the ante to compete in that new conference & in becoming a dominate Football Program in the central section 8) and state.
IMO, this decision should be a no-brainer. It's not everyday that a 2-time State Champion football coach comes knocking on your door and applying to be your head coach. Unless there was some serious character issue that led to his dismissal/resignation, he should be the odds-on favorite. But what do I know, I'm just a girl right? Frankly, if Coach Therrien is passed over, I would feel sorry ofr the coach who is chosen. That person will automatically be accused, rightly or wrongfully, of winning the job for political reasons only instead of on merit. Talk about pressure! And if that coach fails to succeed or hits a snag, everyone will lament over what could have been. That would seem to be a very difficult position for anyone to excel in--especially a coach who may not have any HC experience at the Varsity level.
Quote from: dude63 on February 26, 2014, 09:43:23 AM
It was the only job opening available that close to the start of the season.
The people of the Ventura/ Oxnard area seem to believe he was blackballed from the area and that's why he went T.O. Just seems like Garces would be hiring a younger version of Maples, a guy with on the field and off the field problem. Didn't St. Bonaventure have to forfeit 12 games during the tenure of Therrien due to illegal recruiting?
I don't know anything about this Mr. Therrion, but it seems to me that in high schools sports the ends no longer justify the means. Just because a guy is an excellent football coach on the field doesn't translate to the school admin over looking something that they feel is not in the best interest of their program or, more importantly, the image of the program. Maybe this committee that has been assembled at garces doesn't want to make same mistake again, this guys credentials look great on paper not counting a 0-13 season (I believe was due to forfeiture) he was 60-9 .869 win percentage, Maybe his being asked to resign or being dismissed raises red flags.
So far word to wise has zero facts correct concerning Coach Therrien. Zero. Mr wise is a Crosby or Anton Disciple. Attempting to come on here and spread rumors.......
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 26, 2014, 12:59:50 PM
The people of the Ventura/ Oxnard area seem to believe he was blackballed from the area and that's why he went T.O. Just seems like Garces would be hiring a younger version of Maples, a guy with on the field and off the field problem. Didn't St. Bonaventure have to forfeit 12 games during the tenure of Therrien due to illegal recruiting?
The player involved turned out to be a fifth year senior who had transferred to St. Bonaventure following his first freshman year from the East Coast. Therrien was not on staff at the time of the transfer. No one from the football staff was aware of the fact at any time. The CIF did not place blame on the coaches. Wordtothewise, what is your reason for defaming Therrien? Is it so no one looks at your candidate's lack of head coaching experience on the varsity level. Or so they don't look at his family connections with Garces or the fact that he has never held any job, coaching or otherwise for more than 3 years.
Quote from: dude63 on February 26, 2014, 09:43:23 AM
It was the only job opening available that close to the start of the season.
I get it, it was late, but I was answering a question about Todd coaching in Ventura County even though he was "black listed" there. I was saying that the TO District proudly operates differently, and feels differently about St. Bonnies, than the Ventura and Oxnard districts. You could throw Moorpark in there as well.
I really despise it when people come on this site and spread rumor and innuendo in an effort to bolster their chosen candidate's chances. I am sure the committee will fully vet all of the final applicants and IF any of the rumors like those spread by "World to the Wise" are true, they will be be dispositive of his candidacy. But it is rather cowardly to attack the character of any young coach on a public website such as this when that person has no ability to defend himself. root for whomever you want to get the job, by all means. But, don't tear down the reputation of other candidates in the running in the process.
Quote from: Illegal Formation on February 26, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
The player involved turned out to be a fifth year senior who had transferred to St. Bonaventure following his first freshman year from the East Coast. Therrien was not on staff at the time of the transfer. No one from the football staff was aware of the fact at any time. The CIF did not place blame on the coaches. Wordtothewise, what is your reason for defaming Therrien? Is it so no one looks at your candidate's lack of head coaching experience on the varsity level. Or so they don't look at his family connections with Garces or the fact that he has never held any job, coaching or otherwise for more than 3 years.
Illegal... So your saying that the ONE and ONLY reason for his sudden dismissal was for some kid who got "re-classified" as a freshman after already being a freshman somewhere else the previous year?
1) Let's say that your correct, then it points to Coach T's either encouraging that it got done, or that he covered up the whole mess.
Or
2) SB's Admin screwed up, and his dismissal was NOT related to this at all.
Quote from: Redneckgirl on February 26, 2014, 02:00:24 PM
I really despise it when people come on this site and spread rumor and innuendo in an effort to bolster their chosen candidate's chances. I am sure the committee will fully vet all of the final applicants and IF any of the rumors like those spread by "World to the Wise" are true, they will be be dispositive of his candidacy. But it is rather cowardly to attack the character of any young coach on a public website such as this when that person has no ability to defend himself. root for whomever you want to get the job, by all means. But, don't tear down the reputation of other candidates in the running in the process.
I'm not spreading rumors or attacking the guys character. You can simply type Todd Therrien St. Bonaventure into any search engine and find the same stuff I am referring to. I am simply asking isn't this the same type of guy Garces just fired?
Quote from: coachintheknow on February 26, 2014, 01:49:32 PM
So far word to wise has zero facts correct concerning Coach Therrien. Zero. Mr wise is a Crosby or Anton Disciple. Attempting to come on here and spread rumors.......
Both Crosby and Anton have been at Garces in the past. Both are great coaches and Garces would be lucky to have either one.
But I don't think Crosby is wanting to leave BC and Anton wants to be on campus. Are they going to give the coach an on campus job this time around?
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 26, 2014, 02:33:02 PM
Both Crosby and Anton have been at Garces in the past. Both are great coaches and Garces would be lucky to have either one.
But I don't think Crosby is wanting to leave BC and Anton wants to be on campus. Are they going to give the coach an on campus job this time around?
If they don't offer a full time position I think that they will find both the number & the quality of the applicants will dwindle drastically !!! Being a Head Football Coach & running a top notch Program is more then a full time job !!!
Word, it upsets me to side with redneck but you are a numskull. What exactly makes Crosby a "great" coach? Why would garces be lucky to have him, justify your statement don't just talk, give examples or your credibility goes out the window. Second, I didn't see anything about being run out of or blacklisted. I found articles saying he and St. Bonny parted ways.
Quote from: Grizz51 on February 26, 2014, 02:09:05 PM
Illegal... So your saying that the ONE and ONLY reason for his sudden dismissal was for some kid who got "re-classified" as a freshman after already being a freshman somewhere else the previous year?
1) Let's say that your correct, then it points to Coach T's either encouraging that it got done, or that he covered up the whole mess.
Or
2) SB's Admin screwed up, and his dismissal was NOT related to this at all.
No. I was addressing the forfeiture only. I was not addressing the reason he was let go. Therrien was not involved in the transfer since he was not on staff at the time. He was not involved in any cover up. The forfeitures had nothing to do with his dismissal.
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 26, 2014, 12:59:50 PM
The people of the Ventura/ Oxnard area seem to believe he was blackballed from the area and that's why he went T.O. Just seems like Garces would be hiring a younger version of Maples, a guy with on the field and off the field problem. Didn't St. Bonaventure have to forfeit 12 games during the tenure of Therrien due to illegal recruiting?
Therrien was hired after the kids enrollment... http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/feb/23/St-Bonaventure-forfeits-football-title/ (http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/feb/23/St-Bonaventure-forfeits-football-title/)
However he did serve a one game suspension for "undue influence" (which many felt was BS)... http://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/mar/24/therrien-to-serve-one-game-suspension/ (http://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/mar/24/therrien-to-serve-one-game-suspension/)
his dismissal was VERY hush hush.... at the time the rumor, and I stress rumor, was that he punched one of his JV coaches... St. Bonnie dismissed him in a flash for "personnel reasons" and Thousand Oaks picked him up almost as fast.... if he had a credential, I'm sure he would have gotten more play for the CUSD jobs.
Quote from: Bronco on February 26, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
If they don't offer a full time position I think that they will find both the number & the quality of the applicants will dwindle drastically !!! Being a Head Football Coach & running a top notch Program is more then a full time job !!!
Pursuant to Maxpresp.com and the CIF websites, a teaching position and/or administration position may be available with the head coaching job.
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 26, 2014, 02:33:02 PM
Both Crosby and Anton have been at Garces in the past. Both are great coaches and Garces would be lucky to have either one.
But I don't think Crosby is wanting to leave BC and Anton wants to be on campus. Are they going to give the coach an on campus job this time around?
What type of offense does Crosby or Anton plan on using and what offensive players other than Croney does Garces have to implement it?
Quote from: Illegal Formation on February 26, 2014, 03:23:06 PM
What type of offense does Crosby or Anton plan on using and what offensive players other than Croney does Garces have to implement it?
It doesn't matter who Garces hires they are still going to get smacked around next season! They are way to young in key positions outside of croney. If they get it right they will be a force in about two years if they can hold on to some of the young guns I've seen this past season! BHS is reloading and this would be the year to take them but no one is in the position to do so! IMO!!
Type of Offense? 2012 broke every passing record, 2013 broke every rushing record, Dt calls the plays depending on returning talent.
Quote from: GOALPOST on February 26, 2014, 04:10:29 PM
Type of Offense? 2012 broke every passing record, 2013 broke every rushing record, Dt calls the plays depending on returning talent.
What makes you think DT will coach again? You still didn't answer the question. What type of offense do you expect Crosby or Anton will use?
They better hope so along with Shipp, Gonzales and Duncan.
Crosby and Anton passed on once twice so why now
The Garces spread of coarse. Why mess with success.
What ever offense the Rams run should feature S Croney 8) Is J Lundy coming back ??
Quote from: Bronco on February 26, 2014, 04:58:42 PM
What ever offense the Rams run should feature S Croney 8) Is J Lundy coming back ??
No he's a senior the roster on maxpreps says!
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 26, 2014, 12:59:50 PM
The people of the Ventura/ Oxnard area seem to believe he was blackballed from the area and that's why he went T.O. Just seems like Garces would be hiring a younger version of Maples, a guy with on the field and off the field problem. Didn't St. Bonaventure have to forfeit 12 games during the tenure of Therrien due to illegal recruiting?
Ii don't know where you are getting your info from but there has not been anyone over here that knows about coach being blackballed. Your phrase "seem to believe" is not worthy of being in your post.
Quote from: coachintheknow on February 26, 2014, 01:49:32 PM
So far word to wise has zero facts correct concerning Coach Therrien. Zero. Mr wise is a Crosby or Anton Disciple. Attempting to come on here and spread rumors.......
Well said
Quote from: Illegal Formation on February 26, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
The player involved turned out to be a fifth year senior who had transferred to St. Bonaventure following his first freshman year from the East Coast. Therrien was not on staff at the time of the transfer. No one from the football staff was aware of the fact at any time. The CIF did not place blame on the coaches. Wordtothewise, what is your reason for defaming Therrien? Is it so no one looks at your candidate's lack of head coaching experience on the varsity level. Or so they don't look at his family connections with Garces or the fact that he has never held any job, coaching or otherwise for more than 3 years.
Glad someone has their facts straight.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 26, 2014, 03:03:26 PM
Word, it upsets me to side with redneck but you are a numskull. What exactly makes Crosby a "great" coach? Why would garces be lucky to have him, justify your statement don't just talk, give examples or your credibility goes out the window. Second, I didn't see anything about being run out of or blacklisted. I found articles saying he and St. Bonny parted ways.
Right very hush hush situation as to why coach was let go. All I can tell you is that he did agreed job, the kids loved and respected him. Ask anyone at Bonnie (except the principal) an we would take him back in a heart beat.
Quote from: Illegal Formation on February 26, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
No. I was addressing the forfeiture only. I was not addressing the reason he was let go. Therrien was not involved in the transfer since he was not on staff at the time. He was not involved in any cover up. The forfeitures had nothing to do with his dismissal.
Thanks for clarifying.
Quote from: Word2thewise on February 26, 2014, 02:33:02 PM
Both Crosby and Anton have been at Garces in the past. Both are great coaches and Garces would be lucky to have either one.
But I don't think Crosby is wanting to leave BC and Anton wants to be on campus. Are they going to give the coach an on campus job this time around?
How do you qualify them as "great" coaches at the varsity level? I know guys who were "great" coaches for my kids in Golden Empire; however, I wouldn't want those same guys in charge of the varsity high school football program... because those "great coaches" don't have the higher-level experience, or track record. Give one, specific, varsity-coaching stat from either T.A. or Crosby to back up that either one is the best pick to take a VARSITY-level football program to the next level. Not even one???? C'mon MAN!!
Mw1, you bring up some good points. Those 2 have zero experience as varsity assistants........which is huge. Those 2 need to go back and read Broncos post on the "valley coaches" thread Concerning how to become a head varsity coach. Was a great post and coming from a guy who knows a little a winning championships. What you don't do is attempt to have all strings pulled by your sister, daddy, and local priest......thought we got rid of that crap up here.
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 01, 2014, 07:02:39 AM
Mw1, you bring up some good points. Those 2 have zero experience as varsity assistants........which is huge. Those 2 need to go back and read Broncos post on the "valley coaches" thread Concerning how to become a head varsity coach. Was a great post and coming from a guy who knows a little a winning championships. What you don't do is attempt to have all strings pulled by your sister, daddy, and local priest......thought we got rid of that crap up here.
That is precisely the way it was headed until the new blood forced John L to reopen the application process by posting the job opening on state wide coaching websites instead of the local Family and Friends of Garces usual suspects. Garces has appointed a well received, knowledgeable, and mostly impartial Coaching Search Committee. Whoever is selected will now have legitimacy and hopefully the full support of the Garces Community.
Quote from: mw1 on February 28, 2014, 10:05:04 PM
How do you qualify them as "great" coaches at the varsity level? I know guys who were "great" coaches for my kids in Golden Empire; however, I wouldn't want those same guys in charge of the varsity high school football program... because those "great coaches" don't have the higher-level experience, or track record. Give one, specific, varsity-coaching stat from either T.A. or Crosby to back up that either one is the best pick to take a VARSITY-level football program to the next level. Not even one???? C'mon MAN!!
I don't think Word will be able to logically argue himself out of this one. He has already made "They deserve it because they have been passed over twice before" argument.
I believe that Antone was a varsity asstant at Frazier Mt. years ago, I understand its not a D2 soon to be D1 school but he does have varsity asst. experience. As for Crosby, word will say that he's been at BC, and other than spotting for Dean I'm not sure in what capacity he helps up there.
Tim Anton was an assistant (RB's) at Bakersfield College for a couple of years. He was a varsity assistant at Frazier Mountain. He was the Head Freshman coach at Garces. He's been an assistant at Centennial and Liberty the past few years.
Jeff Crosby was the Head JV coach at Garces for a couple years. He spotted for BC one year while he was at Garces and then was an assistant at BC last year (TE's).
They're both very intelligent guys, they both come from great families. They are guys that would represent what Garces wants as the face of their football program.
Garces needs to be very careful with this hire. They have a broken relationship with the KHSD and need a guy who is not only a great coach but who also portrays a solid image for Garces.
There is a lot more to hiring a head coach then just the stats. It's the school's image. If it was based solely on stats, then why get rid of Maples? The guy led them to 2 straight Valley Championships.
No and No on those choices.
Word is an idiot. No and no.
i agree word is an idiot.
Quote from: Word2thewise on March 01, 2014, 10:28:02 AM
Garces needs to be very careful with this hire. They have a broken relationship with the KHSD and need a guy who is not only a great coach but who also portrays a solid image for Garces.
There is a lot more to hiring a head coach then just the stats. It's the school's image. If it was based solely on stats, then why get rid of Maples? The guy led them to 2 straight Valley Championships.
The relationship will remain broken as long as Garces continues to defeat a majority of the KHSD teams by substantial margins. The KHSD Superintendent Don Carter is retiring at the end of the year as is the ineffective Jim Crichlow, Commissioner of the Central Section CIF. These two as well as Stan Green were instrumental in the problems and animosity towards Garces. With Green still at the helm of the KHSD Athletic Directors, I don't see much of a change. Hopefully, Stan will rise above the drama with Maples gone.
Stan hates Garces with or without Maples. Rise above? Not capable in the eyes of Garces. I do not care for the Lawsuit but I do hope his error in judgement cost him.
any news if MM has had anyone apply or are they close to announcing the coach?
I heard MM still has an interview to go and I also heard that Stockdale starts interviews this week and will continue into the following week if necessary. And I have heard so many different things at Garces I don't know what to believe. Good luck with that circus going on over there.
Zach Ewing has just reported that Mira Monte has hired David Coldiron as there Head Varsity Football Coach, he was a assistant at Pasadena City College, and was the Head Coach at Granite Hills for 4 years going 9-33 with 3 playoff appearance. That just leave the 2 Southwest Yosemite League Football Schools Garces and Stockdale.
Quote from: quickness on March 03, 2014, 11:30:05 AM
I heard MM still has an interview to go and I also heard that Stockdale starts interviews this week and will continue into the following week if necessary. And I have heard so many different things at Garces I don't know what to believe. Good luck with that circus going on over there.
Clones this is the info I have regarding the Garces job. Garces has received over 25 applicants from across the country including high profile coaches from Florida, Louisiana, and Arizona. There has been a hiring committee formed made up of very knowledgable football minds, they are weeding through the applicants and will probably only interview about half of the applicants. There will be several rounds of interviews with the hope of having a new head coach in place around April 1st. This definitely has a "go big or go home" feel to it.
Quote from: LibertyPatriotsFootball on March 03, 2014, 11:46:56 AM
Zach Ewing has just reported that Mira Monte has hired David Coldiron as there Head Varsity Football Coach, he was a assistant at Pasadena City College, and was the Head Coach at Granite Hills for 4 years going 9-33 with 3 playoff appearance. That just leave the 2 Southwest Yosemite League Football Schools Garces and Stockdale.
Congratulations to Coach Coldiron. It was a pleasure to work with him this past season. He will a great leader for Mira Monte. Good luck this year coach.
Rich Lane
Quote from: LibertyPatriotsFootball on March 03, 2014, 11:46:56 AM
Zach Ewing has just reported that Mira Monte has hired David Coldiron as there Head Varsity Football Coach, he was a assistant at Pasadena City College, and was the Head Coach at Granite Hills for 4 years going 9-33 with 3 playoff appearance. That just leave the 2 Southwest Yosemite League Football Schools Garces and Stockdale.
Good luck coach! I hope you can turn things around. It would be good to have all high schools competitive!
"High Profile" coaches, what exactly constitutes a "high profile" high school coach? Van Shmuck you are such a moron.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 03, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
"High Profile" coaches, what exactly constitutes a "high profile" high school coach? Van Shmuck you are such a moron.
Teddy Ruxpin my basement dwelling, impotent friend; high profile is exactly what it means you tard. Coaches with State Championship resumes longer than your ex-wife's love muscle. Quit snorting the skidmarks off Golla's dirty Fruit of the Looms because the fumes are clouding your brain Teddy Ruxpin!
Van Shmuck you spend way too much time watching ESPN numbnuts; although I applaud your effort to improve vocabulary by watching and regurgitating what you hear and you have the highest self confidence I've ever seen on a hairlipped fat guy it doesn't change the fact that you're a complete dumb--s.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 03, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Van Shmuck you spend way too much time watching ESPN numbnuts; although I applaud your effort to improve vocabulary by watching and regurgitating what you hear and you have the highest self confidence I've ever seen on a hairlipped fat guy it doesn't change the fact that you're a complete dumb--s.
That take was awful! That take was worse then the time I was batting .250 my senior year and had to use your KFC eating, Big and Tall shopping, rascal scooter driving, whale of a mom as a slump-buster!
She did the trick though Teddy Ruxpin, ended up busting out of the slump to hit .365 and make all-SYL!
Thank you Jesus for crapty takes, and slump-busters
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 03, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
"High Profile" coaches, what exactly constitutes a "high profile" high school coach? Van Shmuck you are such a moron.
Once the Rams select their "high profile" coach we're gonn'a treat him to a luncheon at Don Pepito's :cry:
Quote from: tailgator on March 03, 2014, 04:56:23 PM
Once the Rams select their "high profile" coach we're gonn'a treat him to a luncheon at Don Pepito's :cry:
Or the Red Pepper
Please be sure before entering the room at Red Pepper or Don Pepitos to investigate and search the room free of any audio or video recording devices prior to coach's arrival. Maybe take a recording sniffing dog in there to make doubly sure. You never know Haas and his USC sweatband, Ewing and Amestoy might be hiding around the corner wanting to ask the man if he knows anything about Lemur. :D It's a joke!
Quote from: Van Smack on March 03, 2014, 09:18:26 PM
Or the Red Pepper
NAH....We'll just kickback and check out our future recruits strolling by ;)
Quote from: tailgator on March 04, 2014, 12:30:19 PM
NAH....We'll just kickback and check out our future recruits strolling by ;)
You guys better hurry up and get on the ball... or you are going to be kicking back, checking out those future recruits as they all go over to BCHS. Not to mention, BCHS appears to be immune from any serious scrutiny.
Quote from: mw1 on March 05, 2014, 09:44:35 AM
You guys better hurry up and get on the ball... or you are going to be kicking back, checking out those future recruits as they all go over to BCHS. Not to mention, BCHS appears to be immune from any serious scrutiny.
:u: :u: :u: :u:
Quote from: mw1 on March 05, 2014, 09:44:35 AM
You guys better hurry up and get on the ball... or you are going to be kicking back, checking out those future recruits as they all go over to BCHS. Not to mention, BCHS appears to be immune from any serious scrutiny.
It looks like BHS lost another potential star to BCHS. When are Stan Green and Crichlow going to lower the hammer? During one of this past falls' Jockey Club presentations, one of the BCHS receivers thanked the Administration, Boosters and anonymous donors that "provided him with a full scholarship".Everyone present laughed including Stan Green. If that had been a Garces student, Stan Green would have had a complaint filed before the end of the day.
Illegal, any kid that leaves BHS to play at BCHS is doing so because he knows he's not going to be the star wants to be and the star mommy and daddy made him believe he can be. Thats not a knock on BCHS its a fact, the pond is a lot smaller at BCHS than at BHS. Schools like Liberty and Stockdale have "donors", didn't one parent buy the entire team at LHS camo unis? How's that different? I don't see an issue with boosters donating money to pay for kids education.
I totally agree with you Teddy (aargh, I can't believe I said that). Generosity from others to improve the life of a student should not be punished by CIF or KHSD as a violation. If a benefactor desires to assist an young man or woman to get a better education, God bless them. Unfortunately, at least as the rules are written, there are several potential issues raised by the numerous recent transfers to BCHS. First, if the young man from BHS is leaving for greener pastures such as the chance of starting or getting more playing time, that move is "athletically motivated" and the boy would have to sit out an entire year. If he left with the promise of assistance from boosters, that could be deemed "undue influence" and also charged as a violation. The good news from BCHS is that, at least for now, neither KHSD or CIF seems to care. They only step in an "investigate" when a transfer involves Garces. In Fall 2013, Garces had one young man who played varsity baseball for one season transfer at the start of his junior year from East HS to Garces. He did so I was told by persons close to his family because he was not allowed to pray every day at East. However, he just happened to be a very good baseball player, and East HS lodged a complaint with CIF. When that young man came out for the varsity football team (his first time playing varsity football), CIF stepped in and declared him ineligible before conducting a complete investigation. Everything was done by the book by the school and by his parents. Nevertheless, CIF made him sit out the entire year. The kid was devastated. Yet, as I have read on this site, there were four similar transfers to BCHS starting Fall 2013, from various high schools, and not one of them had to sit out a single minute. This is the problem as I see it. As much as I disagree with some of CIF's rules on transfers, the rules should apply equally to all. However, they don't. CIF and KHSD pick and choose when and against what schools they will apply the rules.
Quote from: Redneckgirl on March 05, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
I totally agree with you Teddy (aargh, I can't believe I said that). Generosity from others to improve the life of a student should not be punished by CIF or KHSD as a violation. If a benefactor desires to assist an young man or woman to get a better education, God bless them. Unfortunately, at least as the rules are written, there are several potential issues raised by the numerous recent transfers to BCHS. First, if the young man from BHS is leaving for greener pastures such as the chance of starting or getting more playing time, that move is "athletically motivated" and the boy would have to sit out an entire year. If he left with the promise of assistance from boosters, that could be deemed "undue influence" and also charged as a violation. The good news from BCHS is that, at least for now, neither KHSD or CIF seems to care. They only step in an "investigate" when a transfer involves Garces. In Fall 2013, Garces had one young man who played varsity baseball for one season transfer at the start of his junior year from East HS to Garces. He did so I was told by persons close to his family because he was not allowed to pray every day at East. However, he just happened to be a very good baseball player, and East HS lodged a complaint with CIF. When that young man came out for the varsity football team (his first time playing varsity football), CIF stepped in and declared him ineligible before conducting a complete investigation. Everything was done by the book by the school and by his parents. Nevertheless, CIF made him sit out the entire year. The kid was devastated. Yet, as I have read on this site, there were four similar transfers to BCHS starting Fall 2013, from various high schools, and not one of them had to sit out a single minute. This is the problem as I see it. As much as I disagree with some of CIF's rules on transfers, the rules should apply equally to all. However, they don't. CIF and KHSD pick and choose when and against what schools they will apply the rules.
You think Garces scoring 81 point vs East had something to do with it ;)
I know the kid from East, Garces got a pretty good baseball player.
Just like Wasco's Isaiah Sharp quietly walking into the arms of FHS...and not a word about it! Full family move...LMAO!!... Hey whatever works! ;)
Quote from: flexmac3 on March 05, 2014, 12:44:41 PM
You think Garces scoring 81 point vs East had something to do with it ;)
I know the kid from East, Garces got a pretty good baseball player.
I might be mistaken but Didn't BCHS put up 83 on someone this year?
Quote from: Redneckgirl on March 05, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
In Fall 2013, Garces had one young man who played varsity baseball for one season transfer at the start of his junior year from East HS to Garces. He did so I was told by persons close to his family because he was not allowed to pray every day at East.
The young man was an East High student that played on a summer baseball club coached by the Garces baseball coach. There was nothing wrong with this until the young man transferred to Garces after playing on the summer club. East was able to produce video evidence of this undue influence. Hence, the one year penalty. The irony is that as Garces fought to make the young man from East High eligible, they were fighting for a year long penalty for two baseball players that transferred from Garces to BCHS.
Quote from: Redneckgirl on March 05, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Yet, as I have read on this site, there were four similar transfers to BCHS starting Fall 2013, from various high schools, and not one of them had to sit out a single minute. This is the problem as I see it.
That would be faulty information. Three football players tranferred to BCHS in the fall. Jones was cleared to play immediately based on appeal. Martineau and Bragg abided by the thirty day sit out rule. Another young man transferred to BCHS around the start of this semester. His parents were a bit over zealous and appealled the thirty day rule on the wrong grounds. This young man will not be eligible for athletic competition until January 2015.
The fact that a high school, like east in the example above, that goes out of its way to produce evidence is petty. If a kid wants to leave your program let him, if he wants to transfer let him go. I understand its a blow to the fragile ego of the coach and staff but I think its stupid to prevent the kid from playing. I see it as the coach who's program he left wants to exact some pay back and should look to himself as the person to blame. Obviously the kid didn't like his program or something about it or he wouldn't have left.
Teddy is 100% correct. Need more of that thinking.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 05, 2014, 02:46:48 PM
The fact that a high school, like east in the example above, that goes out of its way to produce evidence is petty. If a kid wants to leave your program let him, if he wants to transfer let him go. I understand its a blow to the fragile ego of the coach and staff but I think its stupid to prevent the kid from playing. I see it as the coach who's program he left wants to exact some pay back and should look to himself as the person to blame. Obviously the kid didn't like his program or something about it or he wouldn't have left.
Yeah because if your programme is based around one or two players your screwed anyways!!
QuoteThe fact that a high school, like east in the example above, that goes out of its way to produce evidence is petty. If a kid wants to leave your program let him, if he wants to transfer let him go. I understand its a blow to the fragile ego of the coach and staff but I think its stupid to prevent the kid from playing. I see it as the coach who's program he left wants to exact some pay back and should look to himself as the person to blame. Obviously the kid didn't like his program or something about it or he wouldn't have left.
Teddy I get what you're saying and I agree with this thinking. However, there has to be some kind of fall back rule in place. Otherwise, kids and parents can run rampant and go and come as they please whenever and wherever. I'm not saying that I claim to know what all these transfer rules are or that I agree with them all. Sometimes it's good but I'd venture to say that more times than not it does not work out quite like all parties thought. Team chemistry, revenge factor, target on the back, etc. I don't know the particulars regarding East and the evidence gathered. I'm sure due to the rules in place if someone is in question, officials have to have due diligence and gather all the information necessary. I think it's more of a winning/losing & playing time combination of why kids move to other high schools. You go where the grass is greener. Other than that, it's hard not to see how the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The same principals apply to athletic teams. I do congratulate a school like South High soccer team who won it's 1st Valley Championship in any sport in 17 years. 27 years for a boys team to win a Valley. This is a major accomplishment. Talk about a great story of breaking the trend.
Quote from: shafteralum on March 05, 2014, 01:51:24 PM
The young man was an East High student that played on a summer baseball club coached by the Garces baseball coach. There was nothing wrong with this until the young man transferred to Garces after playing on the summer club. East was able to produce video evidence of this undue influence. Hence, the one year penalty. The irony is that as Garces fought to make the young man from East High eligible, they were fighting for a year long penalty for two baseball players that transferred from Garces to BCHS
The young man played on the same summer club team for three years before transferring to Garces. One of the club coaches was a Garces Freshman coach in 2012. He did not coach in 2013. The young man's grandfather died and had provided in his will that money be distributed to his grandson so that he could go to a private Christian school. The grandson did not even know he was going to Garces until his father didn't wake him up for football practice. The kid was personally happy at East, was a star baseball player on the varsity baseball team, would have started on the varsity football team and obviously was not transferring for an athletically motivated reason. East did not provide videotaped evidence at any time nor did they produce any evidence of undue influence or improper pre-enrollment contact. Crichlow had originally banned him from all sports for 1 year. On appeal he was able to play football after a 30 day sitout period and was allowed to play any other sport except baseball without a sitout period. He was still banned from playing varsity baseball. However, he was was allowed to play JV baseball. Go figure. This was a very personal matter to Ted Armijo and coach Thorpe at the expense of an innocent and very talented young man who was irreparably injured by their pathetic pettiness.
GHF, I agree that there needs to be some sort of rules to prevent kids from (hypotheticall) playing football at one school transferring to another school for baseball and then yet another the following year for football. I guess to me its still just a game played by kids, these coaches in the KHSD their job isn't on the line, at least not their teaching job. I see it like if a kid doesn't want to be at your school hold the door open for him to leave, its kind of like when I finally dumped Van Shmucks wife, sure she was disappointed that she had to go back to playing pool with a rope but she was acted like an adult and didn't hold a grudge against me.
Quote from: Van Smack on March 05, 2014, 01:47:20 PM
I might be mistaken but Didn't BCHS put up 83 on someone this year?
That was 83-ZERO with 9 TD passes! I believe the girls soccer team (not that anyone cares about soccer) hung a 16-ZERO shellacking on some team a couple of months ago :D The Eagles appear to enjoy setting individual records in D-LOW at the expense of lesser teams. Here's a plan....move Kingsburg down one and BCHS up one and let them play each other every week and have their own stat parties! The only reason BCHS is flying under the radar is because Garces is a much more interesting topic :u:
GO RAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: tailgator on March 06, 2014, 02:07:10 PM
That was 83-ZERO with 9 TD passes! I believe the girls soccer team (not that anyone cares about soccer) hung a 16-ZERO shellacking on some team a couple of months ago :D The Eagles appear to enjoy setting individual records in D-LOW at the expense of lesser teams. Here's a plan....move Kingsburg down one and BCHS up one and let them play each other every week and have their own stat parties! The only reason BCHS is flying under the radar is because Garces is a much more interesting topic :u:
GO RAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BCHS vs Garces in a non league game sounds better :u:
Quote from: flexmac3 on March 06, 2014, 02:24:26 PM
BCHS vs Garces in a non league game sounds better :u:
I agree, and it would have happened this coming year, but Garces backed out. BCHS had a verbal agreement with the Garces AD, only to have her renege a few weeks later. She put the blame on Maples -said he didn't want to play a team that couldn't guarantee a FS game. Maples told Force that the AD should have checked with him before contacting BCHS's AD.
Quote from: flexmac3 on March 06, 2014, 02:24:26 PM
BCHS vs Garces in a non league game sounds better :u:
That'd be GREAT!!!!!!!! Then we could score 90 and no one will bitch :D
Quote from: tailgator on March 06, 2014, 02:38:03 PM
That'd be GREAT!!!!!!!! Then we could score 90 and no one will bitch :D
Someone tell the bartender at Narducci's to cut off tailgator.
Quote from: shafteralum on March 06, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
Someone tell the bartender at Narducci's to cut off tailgator.
'Gator is not sensitive about his drinking problems; but it's sobering when a youth football program has a successful season then believes they're ready to take on the Big Boys🙏 just focus on Kennedy HS, they've drawn a bullseye on your arssess :cry:
Quote from: shafteralum on March 06, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
Someone tell the bartender at Narducci's to cut off tailgator.
... cut tailgater off! ...
Quote from: tailgator on March 06, 2014, 03:10:08 PM
'Gator is not sensitive about his drinking problems; but it's sobering when a youth football program has a successful season then believes they're ready to take on the Big Boys just focus on Kennedy HS, they've drawn a bullseye on your arssess :cry:
sounds advise...thats what the Driller's fans have been telling garces fans
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 06, 2014, 03:32:34 PM
sounds advise...thats what the Driller's fans have been telling garces fans
You're to quick wited for us; we never saw that one coming :sleep:
Apparently Stockdale will introduce the new head football coach on tuesday.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 06, 2014, 05:28:18 PM
Apparently Stockdale will introduce the new head football coach on tuesday.
Any speculation on who it will be?
My strong guess would be Bandy assistant from Ridgeview. I may be way wrong but he seems like a strong candidate.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 06, 2014, 05:28:18 PM
Apparently Stockdale will introduce the new head football coach on tuesday.
I don't understand why the B-Town schools have such a hard time going outside the Kern District to hire Head Football Coaches !??! Is there some rule against it or is it just good ol boy nepotism ???
Quote from: Bronco on March 06, 2014, 09:39:13 PM
I don't understand why the B-Town schools have such a hard time going outside the Kern District to hire Head Football Coaches !??! Is there some rule against it or is it just good ol boy nepotism ???
The union contract gives coaches in the district first crack at coaching vacancies.
QuoteI don't understand why the B-Town schools have such a hard time going outside the Kern District to hire Head Football Coaches !??! Is there some rule against it or is it just good ol boy nepotism ???
The Drillers got Golla from Texas. Unless it's the flagship school (BHS) or a traditional powerhouse programs (which there isn't), why would they attract outside interest? The Clovis schools can go after Golla and offer him more. Here, that is not the case. You're just a teacher playing coach. Coach never trumps teacher. It sorta goes along with the small town feel of schools not exceeding 2,000 students.
Quote from: GoldenHawksFootball on March 06, 2014, 09:47:17 PM
The Drillers got Golla from Texas. Unless it's the flagship school (BHS) or a traditional powerhouse programs (which there isn't), why would they attract outside interest? The Clovis schools can go after Golla and offer him more. Here, that is not the case. You're just a teacher playing coach. Coach never trumps teacher. It sorta goes along with the small town feel of schools not exceeding 2,000 students.
The Drillers got Coach Golla way back in 2005 / there are other Football Programs in B-Town that could be Very Good with the right leadership ( more then just the right HC). Stockdale has that potential. Do you really think that nobody outside the Kern school district would be interested in a job like that ???? 8)
QuoteThe Drillers got Coach Golla way back in 2005 / there are other Football Programs in B-Town that could be Very Good with the right leadership ( more then just the right HC). Stockdale has that potential. Do you really think that nobody outside the Kern school district would be interested in a job like that ???? Cool
Maybe so but like Shafter Alum said, they look within the district at that personnel 1st. Then what they do is basically rotate them from school to school in the district. You don't have to create new openings, you're just filling empty vacancies. Which is why they can't get on campus assistants. For the head guys they make positions for them. Usually PE or like Nixon's case Liberty created an independent study class for him. From a financial standpoint it makes sense. Lots of lateral movement from within. Can be a good thing. But if you're on the outside, a guy like Prado at Wasco is sorta stuck with no where to go but Wasco, single school district. If they can't fill from within which they try to abide by, then they look outside. But it's pretty rare because it has so little to do with athletics. Thus the Teddy liner, "retread" phrase.
Miramonte goes outside, but Stockdale can't. Maybe that shows how little interest there was in the MM job. With Centennial, Liberty, Stockdale and at least three other jobs open in the last two years only MM interviews and hires outside the KHSD???
Quote from: valleyfbfan on March 07, 2014, 06:23:09 AM
Miramonte goes outside, but Stockdale can't. Maybe that shows how little interest there was in the MM job.
You are correct
When does the Garces Coach Selection Committee start interviewing the candidates and who are the top three?
Well. If Fannuchi has his way the list would go a little something like this:
1) TA
2) TA
3) TA
How are they gonna explain this one...? Yikes
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 07, 2014, 10:00:07 AM
Well. If Fannuchi has his way the list would go a little something like this:
1) TA
2) TA
3) TA
How are they gonna explain this one...? Yikes
I have been hearing the same thing. How many members of the committee will support John L's choice? Or is he a lame duck on his way out?
The pressure might be to great for them to vote otherwise..........they are having to defend outside candidates names being slung threw the mud. JF had his man prior to maples being let go.......why do you think the job was never posted until parents and alumni went to the last meeting and complained. Then JF finally posted it. The fix is in boys. I'm just not sure how the others sign off on this though......?
As mark brown would say " hold on sports fans........, Garces fumbled the ball here......"
Interviews start this week...........but just a formality at this point it seems......
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 07, 2014, 11:03:44 AM
The pressure might be to great for them to vote otherwise..........they are having to defend outside candidates names being slung threw the mud. JF had his man prior to maples being let go.......why do you think the job was never posted until parents and alumni went to the last meeting and complained. Then JF finally posted it. The fix is in boys. I'm just not sure how the others sign off on this though......?
As mark brown would say " hold on sports fans........, Garces fumbled the ball here......"
Interviews start this week...........but just a formality at this point it seems......
curious; why would TA be a poor choice? If it's "a fix" as you state then why was he passed over twice before?? I suggest your a hostile and don't know what the hell you're talking about😢
TA is not necessarily a poor choice. He has had success as a Freshman Head Coach and as an assistant. He is well liked by his players. I think the issue is whether anyone would place him in the top 4 if you removed his name from his resume. The disgruntled are only comparing his resume with those of successful Varsity Head Coaches who have no ties to the political cronyism, inbreeding, parental interference and nepotism at Garces.
I think the world of Tim A, who coached my son as a freshman. it is not that he would make a poor choice as a Head Coach, it's that he is nowhere near as qualified as some of the applicants who are rumored to have applied. That's the problem. If Garces wanted to simply hand over the program to him, why go through the charade of a coaching search? People may have complained and been aggravated, but at least we would have a coach and would be moving in a forward direction. Instead, for the last 2 months, everything has been in limbo awaiting completion of a process that appears to be purely for show. And now, after receiving 25 applications including several State Championship coaches, how can they possibly give the job to a coach with no Varsity experience? If Tim A. does get the job under the circumstances, cries of outrage will be resounding. I also think it's despicable that so many people have had to intercede in this process just to hold J.L. accountable to perform an honest coaching search. Parents and supporters have had to take time out of their busy schedules, show up to Board meeting and plead to Board members just to ensure that JL follows the correct procedures. I heard that he initially refused to post the job opening on line until the Board received complaints. Then he tried to stack the selection committee with cronies who would vote in favor of his chosen candidate (TA?). Thankfully, the Board insisted he install an "impartial" panel on the committee, made up of well-respected football minds in the committee. Since then, however, I hear rumors people are running around and trying to dig up dirt on the person who would appear to be the most qualified and successful applicant--Todd Therrien. I would hope that a Catholic organization such as Garces, dedicated to principles of fairness, honesty and integrity, would avoid such trivial power struggles which stain the reputation of its members. If TA is an honorable person, as I truly believe he is, I would hope he would not want want to be the central focus of such a farce.
Funny tail. Funny. Thank you illegal. I never said poor choice. TA is a good guy. But as illegal stated TA is getting preferential treatment because of his name. There are some fantastic resumes sitting up there and they are being bogged down by Fannuchi.
And while they where trying to dig up dirt on coaches more qualified does anyone know If JL ran background checks on everyone. Just sayin.
The Garces Football Team was significantly harmed by John L and the Diocese by their waiting until the end of January to fire the loyal and quite successful Jim Maples. All of the reasons they had for his dismissal existed in December. Letting Maples know in December would have given him time to secure another coaching job. One that he certainly deserves. The new successor would have been selected by the end of January and all of this unnecessary drama would be over.
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 07, 2014, 01:41:33 PM
And while they where trying to dig up dirt on coaches more qualified does anyone know If JL ran background checks on everyone. Just sayin.
It's funny that the guy JL is trying to run through the mud is the most qualified candidate, the one that the Boosters, Parents, Supporters want (Todd Therrien) has a squeaky clean record (no DUIs like falsely rumored). If they scrutinized everybody the same way, including the "Golden Child", the dirt won't need to be slung, it will sling itself.
Seems to me Garces, the diocese, and John L want a puppet. A coach who will not call them out. One who will be a "yes man". Not the most qualified, but the most "comfortable" candidate. Pick the most qualified man for the job, whomever it is! If more qualified people are passed over for someone less qualified but with one of the "Garces Italian Names" it will send the wrong message to Bakersfield as a whole. It may be a lot more difficult for parents with a great athlete the caliber of a Croney for example, to send their kids to Garces because they don't have the "right last name" to get a fair shake. Garces needs to be very careful what they do with this hire because it can either propel the program to a level greater than they are even at now, state level private-school power. Or, it could do the opposite and turn them into the KHSD's whipping boy in the SWYL and fall to the second best private school football program in town behind the fast-rising BCHS program.
Quote from: Van Smack on March 07, 2014, 02:48:46 PM
Seems to me Garces, the diocese, and John L want a puppet. A coach who will not call them out. One who will be a "yes man". Not the most qualified, but the most "comfortable" candidate. Pick the most qualified man for the job, whomever it is! If more qualified people are passed over for someone less qualified but with one of the "Garces Italian Names" it will send the wrong message to Bakersfield as a whole. It may be a lot more difficult for parents with a great athlete the caliber of a Croney for example, to send their kids to Garces because they don't have the "right last name" to get a fair shake. Garces needs to be very careful what they do with this hire because it can either propel the program to a level greater than they are even at now, state level private-school power. Or, it could do the opposite and turn them into the KHSD's whipping boy in the SWYL and fall to the second best private school football program in town behind the fast-rising BCHS program.
I think the Diocese wants someone who is qualified, has coached in the KHSD and is perceived by the KHSD as an honorable man. TA fits all three criteria .The Diocese wants to have a peaceful relationship with the KHSD and the CIF. The Diocese may have inadvertently made a deal with the devil. I don't believe any relationship will last with the KHSD so long as Stan Green is a part of the KHSD. Just chalk it up to another poor and naive decision by the Garces Administration. I agree with you that Garces needs to hire the "most qualified coach available", but that assumes that Garces would do something that required intelligence.
What the heck? Garces might as well have let Stan Green make the hire then. 100% Spineless.
Quote from: Redneckgirl on March 07, 2014, 01:32:21 PM
I think the world of Tim A, who coached my son as a freshman. it is not that he would make a poor choice as a Head Coach, it's that he is nowhere near as qualified as some of the applicants who are rumored to have applied. That's the problem. If Garces wanted to simply hand over the program to him, why go through the charade of a coaching search? People may have complained and been aggravated, but at least we would have a coach and would be moving in a forward direction. Instead, for the last 2 months, everything has been in limbo awaiting completion of a process that appears to be purely for show. And now, after receiving 25 applications including several State Championship coaches, how can they possibly give the job to a coach with no Varsity experience? If Tim A. does get the job under the circumstances, cries of outrage will be resounding. I also think it's despicable that so many people have had to intercede in this process just to hold J.L. accountable to perform an honest coaching search. Parents and supporters have had to take time out of their busy schedules, show up to Board meeting and plead to Board members just to ensure that JL follows the correct procedures. I heard that he initially refused to post the job opening on line until the Board received complaints. Then he tried to stack the selection committee with cronies who would vote in favor of his chosen candidate (TA?). Thankfully, the Board insisted he install an "impartial" panel on the committee, made up of well-respected football minds in the committee. Since then, however, I hear rumors people are running around and trying to dig up dirt on the person who would appear to be the most qualified and successful applicant--Todd Therrien. I would hope that a Catholic organization such as Garces, dedicated to principles of fairness, honesty and integrity, would avoid such trivial power struggles which stain the reputation of its members. If TA is an honorable person, as I truly believe he is, I would hope he would not want want to be the central focus of such a farce.
While TKGB was making you sound foolish I felt sorry for you and thought you'd fade away and go back to doing laundry and dishes like a good girl; Now it's apparent that you've lost your mind; you think the world of TA buttttttt Todd whoever is your man....blah, blah, blah; you don't know this guy from Mr. Rogers ....TA is solid and knowledgeable, has coached V-FB at Fraizer Mt. , JC-Renegades, Garces Baseball, Garces Frosh Football, Centinnial FB, Liberty FB; oh 'ya also played college FB. You limp wrist pu____es always think that there's something better "out of town"; the Drillers showed you different you bunch of whimps. Bako has as much local talent as any other community, get your frek'in heads out of the clouds and quit wishing for the "almighty" to show up to take you to the promised land! This is the same sicko Syco-babble that the disgruntles waged when DF resigned. If you think you're self serving opinions are at all credible why not ask a real expert; a local legend and National Champion FB coach Gerry Collis who'd he endorse. Go Rams!!!!
You guys kill me. Do you actually think the John L. Fanucchi doesn't have the best interest of Garces in his heart!!! After all the things he has done for that school and what he has put up with (legs cutout out by Braun). One of the major stumbling blocks is what they can pay. They haven't hired a new football coach for a full time position since 1981. John was already on staff and so was David when they got the head coaching jobs. John Roberts and Jim Maples were walk on coaches.
I know for an absolute fact that a person with head coaching experience asked them to match his current teaching salary and was told that they couldn't. With declining enrollment over the last few years, finding a long term funding source for a football coach would be tough. You have to remember that private schools pay their teachers way less than public and their retirement program is not even in the ball park. So unless some rich booster is willing to take on a long term deal, over $100K in compensation package per year for at least 5-10 years, you can forget a lot of so called names that INQURIED ABOUT THE JOB.
Good luck to Coach Anton if he takes the job.
Tailgator is this even worthy of response? You have lost what small credibility you had if any at that. Are you mentally challenged or what? Holy mackerel guy. Todd Therrien.......you obviously know NOTHING about high school football. That is clear now. Or maybe you have been living under a rock for ten years. TA couldn't hold Todd's fricken jockstrap. Therrien has been here. He wants the job. But let's give it to a guy who coaches freshman football for a living because of his family name and who can't hold down a job??? This makes zero sense no matter which planet you are from. Funny you bring up BC because the current coach endorsed Crosby over TA. Hmmm. That's funny. And life after DF? It's been so great. We are on our 3rd football HC search in 4 years. So john L sure knows what's he doing up there. Tailgator you Are an IDIOT. I am now dumber for having read your nonsensical rant. As Dlion would say with you.......we are waiting for the pop........
I am the person valleyfbfan is talking about. I am OK with him telling some facts about my conversations with Garces. I never formally applied, but did inquire about the position. I coached at Garces for 8 years as an assistant and was 39-15 has a head coach on the central coast. With my current teaching salary, benefits, my districts input into my retirement my compensation package is over $90k where I am now. That is not that high compared to guys from other districts. My district is not that high paying, in fact it is pretty low. The KHSD is a much higher paying district than my current one, for example, so matching a successful coaches pay will be difficult.
Like he said, unless someone from their booster organization is willing to pony up close to a million $$, they will be limited in the people that can take that job. That is what is going on in parts of Southern California, I just don't think that is possible at Garces at this time. It can't just be a one year commitment to get a an excellent coach to come there. It would have to be a long term $$$ commitment for them to draw a guys with a lot of years coaching and teaching.
Why don't all of you Garces supporters just relax and let the committee do their thing. I am sure they will end up hiring whoever they feel is best for their job. I really don't think a bunch of winning experience or out of this world credentials is what they are looking for. Some of you have your opinions of Maples, but let's face it, he had a great coaching staff, and they won...a lot. If they fired him then winning and experience may not be what they are basing this hire on. It seems like they are wanting to hire a certain type of "person"...one that fits the image of what the school wants to portray. Like it has been said before, if they are looking for an on campus coach then they really don't have the ability to offer competitive pay and benefits to compete with KHSD and other districts so the candidates dwindle themselves down in that respect quite quickly. Then there is this, With both the principal and AD headed back to the classroom are they even going to have a teacher position for the new coach? Bottom line is there have been a lot of good candidates apply from what has been said on this board. I think when the committee interviews applicants next week then one or a few of the candidates will set themselves apart from the pack and this will all work itself out. I hope all of the applicants including those mentioned on this site; Therrien, Antongiovanni, Crosby, Frank Gonzales, and the out of town applicants all get a FAIR and UNBIASED interview conducted by an impartial committee. Good luck to them all and God Bless.
Amen to that!!!
Gator, why all the hostility? Did someone slip you a Mickey Finn at Amestoy's today? Go back and read my post if you can and you will see that my entire point was sympathetic to Tim A. With that said, I don't believe he would be the top choice or even in the running if it were not for the pushing of John L. You cannot seriously suggest otherwise. If BHS showed anything as an example is that a school that is actually allowed to hire from outside has been very successful. Golla came from Texas RIGHT? All I want is a FAIR process in this selection. As for all the supposition about Garces not being able to offer enough financially to land a qualified coach outside the area, how do you explain the fact that Therrien actually wants this job? The school has more than one full-time position on campus to offer the coach with all the purging that has recently taken place. If the committee does its job and hires the most qualified coach, then everyone should be satisfied. Consider this, however--everyone has taken for granted that all of the assistants will just blindly sign on no matter who Garces hires as the next coach. Well, I know about 10 of the assistants and that is not a guarantee. In fact, many of the assistants have been approached by other programs about leaving Garces for greener pastures. Funny thing is that no one from the admin has reached out to the assistants to let them know where they stand. One would think that the assistants would be given some assurances the longer this process takes. If the true goal is to keep this excellent staff together to build with the new coach, somebody better wake up and reach out before it's too late!
Quote from: Redneckgirl on March 07, 2014, 09:15:27 PM
Well, I know about 10 of the assistants and that is not a guarantee. In fact, many of the assistants have been approached by other programs about leaving Garces for greener pastures. Funny thing is that no one from the admin has reached out to the assistants to let them know where they stand. One would think that the assistants would be given some assurances the longer this process takes. If the true goal is to keep this excellent staff together to build with the new coach, somebody better wake up and reach out before it's too late!
Unfortunately, John L is not the man he was 10 years ago. I truly wish he was. He has lost his "common sense" and "common courtesy". He is bull headed with tunnel vision going in the wrong direction To not have personally contacted the coaching staff after Maples' dismissal is inexcusable. To keep them hanging in thin air is abhorrent. He might have found his ba--s long ago if he would only pull his head out of his a--.
Quote from: Redneckgirl on March 07, 2014, 09:15:27 PM
Gator, why all the hostility? Did someone slip you a Mickey Finn at Amestoy's today? Go back and read my post if you can and you will see that my entire point was sympathetic to Tim A. With that said, I don't believe he would be the top choice or even in the running if it were not for the pushing of John L. You cannot seriously suggest otherwise. If BHS showed anything as an example is that a school that is actually allowed to hire from outside has been very successful. Golla came from Texas RIGHT? All I want is a FAIR process in this selection. As for all the supposition about Garces not being able to offer enough financially to land a qualified coach outside the area, how do you explain the fact that Therrien actually wants this job? The school has more than one full-time position on campus to offer the coach with all the purging that has recently taken place. If the committee does its job and hires the most qualified coach, then everyone should be satisfied. Consider this, however--everyone has taken for granted that all of the assistants will just blindly sign on no matter who Garces hires as the next coach. Well, I know about 10 of the assistants and that is not a guarantee. In fact, many of the assistants have been approached by other programs about leaving Garces for greener pastures. Funny thing is that no one from the admin has reached out to the assistants to let them know where they stand. One would think that the assistants would be given some assurances the longer this process takes. If the true goal is to keep this excellent staff together to build with the new coach, somebody better wake up and reach out before it's too late!
TA doesn't need your sympathy; as far as Golla coming from Texas...so what, he's a good coach coaching superior talent, Maples would have won two Valley titles with their talent......would've a Texas or Florida or SoCal coach won a section title at East or Highland just because he's from out of the area???? As for" Coach that doesn't Know"; Crosby would also be a good choice....Back to RNG, the assistants future are at the mercy of the new HC, you can throw a temper tantrum but you have no say in the matter. Shipper is probably the best DC in the section; DT has balls as a OC; Frank and Eric are great OL/DL minds, Maples let them do their thing.....We'll see what the next regime decides regardless of you're bias.
Tail. Didn't your momma ever teach you when you have no idea what you are talking about.....to remain silent? More incoherent garbage spewed from you. FYI...... DT has stated he will not coach this year. The other assistants have said if the golden boy is hired than they will not be back. We now will all wait with eager anticipation your pathetic response. Cause you know and understand oh so much here.....it's so apparent.
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 08, 2014, 07:02:53 AM
The other assistants have said if the golden boy is hired than they will not be back.
I for one have never said that I won't be back if any certain coach is hired. If the newly hired head coach, whomever it is, contacts me then I will gladly sit down and hear what he has to say and base my decision on that. However, I do not speak for all former assistants when I say this.
Coachintheknow you are right about one thing, Coach Hronis has decided not to coach this year, no matter who is hired.
Quote from: tailgator on March 07, 2014, 11:39:32 PM
as far as Golla coming from Texas...so what, he's a good coach coaching superior talent, Maples would have won two Valley titles with their talent......the assistants future are at the mercy of the new HC, you can throw a temper tantrum but you have no say in the matter. Shipper is probably the best DC in the section; DT has balls as a OC; Frank and Eric are great OL/DL minds, Maples let them do their thing.....We'll see what the next regime decides regardless of you're bias.
Golla was an assistant at University of Redlands for several years prior to going to Texas and being a DC at a big high school there for 2 years. Golla is an outstanding coach to say he is just a good coach is a big understatement.
As far as myself and the other assistants, you are absolutely right, we are at the mercy of the new head man. If he wants any of us on his staff then I assume he will contact us.
Thank you coach for correcting me. I was wrong lumping all you guys together. Sometimes in our haste to correct someone with a quick reply we forget where we are. So glad to hear that!! Hopefully you return to OUR sideline.....all of you would be nice, including DT. Thank you for all you do for GMHS and the boys. Go Rams.
OK, I swore I was not going to get in this nameless, faceless BS, but when one of my dear compadres that I have coached with and dearly treasure as a friend as well as a colleague lets you all know who he is I have to say something. Whoever is named as the head coach at Garces will have my support and should do everything they can to reach out to the incredibly talented coaches from my staff. It is true that my brother from another mother DT Hronis is not coaching due to the birth of his daughter, which is as solid a statement of his character as you can get! But, most of the other assistants in the program I'm sure want to continue coaching. I have done my best to hire the best group of high school football coaches in the area including the best freshman football coaches in the Central Section and the two best defensive coaches on any LEVEL in Chris Shipp and Erik Duncan. All of the other assistant coaches and staff have worked their tails off in making the experience of playing football at GMHS an amazing journey and all should have an opportunity to continue following their passion! God Bless the players and coaches these past four years that have truly made me appreciate the gifts that God has given me. Go Rams!
Quote from: Coachemup on March 08, 2014, 09:11:38 AM
OK, I swore I was not going to get in this nameless, faceless BS, but when one of my dear compadres that I have coached with and dearly treasure as a friend as well as a colleague lets you all know who he is I have to say something. Whoever is named as the head coach at Garces will have my support and should do everything they can to reach out to the incredibly talented coaches from my staff. It is true that my brother from another mother DT Hronis is not coaching due to the birth of his daughter, which is as solid a statement of his character as you can get! But, most of the other assistants in the program I'm sure want to continue coaching. I have done my best to hire the best group of high school football coaches in the area including the best freshman football coaches in the Central Section and the two best defensive coaches on any LEVEL in Chris Shipp and Erik Duncan. All of the other assistant coaches and staff have worked their tails off in making the experience of playing football at GMHS an amazing journey and all should have an opportunity to continue following their passion! God Bless the players and coaches these past four years that have truly made me appreciate the gifts that God has given me. Go Rams!
Coach, the pleasure has been ours. You are truly a man of high character and integrity. I only hope that I and the other coaches on our freshman staff have the opportunity to carry on with the foundations for success you created with this program. Thank you for everything you have taught me about being a great football coach and a true friend. God Bless.
Quote from: Coachemup on March 08, 2014, 09:11:38 AM
OK, I swore I was not going to get in this nameless, faceless BS, but when one of my dear compadres that I have coached with and dearly treasure as a friend as well as a colleague lets you all know who he is I have to say something. Whoever is named as the head coach at Garces will have my support and should do everything they can to reach out to the incredibly talented coaches from my staff. It is true that my brother from another mother DT Hronis is not coaching due to the birth of his daughter, which is as solid a statement of his character as you can get! But, most of the other assistants in the program I'm sure want to continue coaching. I have done my best to hire the best group of high school football coaches in the area including the best freshman football coaches in the Central Section and the two best defensive coaches on any LEVEL in Chris Shipp and Erik Duncan. All of the other assistant coaches and staff have worked their tails off in making the experience of playing football at GMHS an amazing journey and all should have an opportunity to continue following their passion! God Bless the players and coaches these past four years that have truly made me appreciate the gifts that God has given me. Go Rams!
Coach, my good friend, thank you very much for the kind words. You know I think the world of you. Thank you for giving me a shot way back in 2003 when I was just a young pup only 2 years removed from playing college ball. The love you have for your players and coaches is unparalleled. Thanks for all that you've done for your players and coaches throughout the years my friend. God bless you!
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 08, 2014, 07:02:53 AM
Tail. Didn't your momma ever teach you when you have no idea what you are talking about.....to remain silent? More incoherent garbage spewed from you. FYI...... DT has stated he will not coach this year. The other assistants have said if the golden boy is hired than they will not be back. We now will all wait with eager anticipation your pathetic response. Cause you know and understand oh so much here.....it's so apparent.
Huh??? What'd I miss? I haven't promoted any HC prospect; if TA is a prospect, or even is interested in the job, I was just wondering what he did to deserve such negativity, we'd all like to know so we're "in the know" like you? As for the frosh, JV and V-assistants future; RNG seemed to hang an ethical responsibility on John L. to make them aware of their future.....I'm not sure he can do that without the blessing of the HC. If the core of the staff wish to stay I'm certain the new HC would be thrilled to keep them 'cause they're good! Hell; some of the current staff may have applied and are HC'ing prospects as well......I simply suggested that KC has enough local talent to compete with the "outsiders". BTW....Golla probably is a Great Coach :u:
Like what was said here last week.........dog and pony show up on the hill. This was done a long long time ago folks. Board disregarding alumni, parents, boosters etc .....John L refuses to pull his head out. Sad week for Garces football.
So how's stockdale looking for their announcement tomorrow?
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 10, 2014, 08:50:07 AM
Like what was said here last week.........dog and pony show up on the hill. This was done a long long time ago folks. Board disregarding alumni, parents, boosters etc .....John L refuses to pull his head out. Sad week for Garces football.
So how's stockdale looking for their announcement tomorrow?
My "mamma" told me if you don't understand ask questions.................So, at the risk of "spewing more incoherent garbage" I ask you; what the hell are you talking about :huh:?????? What was said last week??? What was done long long ago??? What has the Board disregarded....if you're talking about the hiring of the HC I was of the understanding a non-biased committee was selected? What has John L. done (It's my understanding he's opening the weight room in the am for FB workouts, if true :u: to him!!!)? Why was it a sad week for Garces FB....what happened????????? Has a selection been made; I heard 1st of April????? Oh; wait a minute, I think I get it....."coachintheknow" applid and didn't make the cut.....Shame on John L. how could you pass on CITK.........A "sad week" for Garces FB for sure :shy:
Thanks Tailgator. At least I can count on you for a nice laugh when I'm in a bad mood. Funny stuff. I would never in my sound mind apply to the circus they are having up here and having the balls to call it an unbiased hiring committee. John L opening the weight room....true. How many people showed up last week? 5. That's right 5. And john was ok with that turnout. Oh. And it's not free. The players have to pay for it. Way to go john. Toot toot. Ridiculousness. Only 2 months behind other programs and counting...........
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 10, 2014, 10:48:01 AM
Thanks Tailgator. At least I can count on you for a nice laugh when I'm in a bad mood. Funny stuff. I would never in my sound mind apply to the circus they are having up here and having the balls to call it an unbiased hiring committee. John L opening the weight room....true. How many people showed up last week? 5. That's right 5. And john was ok with that turnout. Oh. And it's not free. The players have to pay for it. Way to go john. Toot toot. Ridiculousness. Only 2 months behind other programs and counting...........
Oh and I was told by an assistant that several assistant coaches volunteered to run the weight room while the search was being conducted and they were told "thanks but no thanks" by Fanucchi. I could guarantee if they were allowed to do so turnout would be a lot better than 5.
I really wish people would stop referring to Golla as a "TEXAS" coach. The guy was born and raised here in CA. He spent one year in Texas with Jerry Campbell and came back, go the Job at BHS. He already had a decent run as a HC in highschool, before he got the BHS job. Being in Texas for one year does not make you a coach from Texas or an outsider.
Quote from: search4truth on March 10, 2014, 11:22:15 AM
I really wish people would stop referring to Golla as a "TEXAS" coach. The guy was born and raised here in CA. He spent one year in Texas with Jerry Campbell and came back, go the Job at BHS. He already had a decent run as a HC in highschool, before he got the BHS job. Being in Texas for one year does not make you a coach from Texas or an outsider.
Golla was the recruiting coordinator/d-line coach for University of Redlands in the 90s prior to becoming Silverado High's head coach.
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 10, 2014, 10:48:01 AM
Thanks Tailgator. At least I can count on you for a nice laugh when I'm in a bad mood. Funny stuff. I would never in my sound mind apply to the circus they are having up here and having the balls to call it an unbiased hiring committee. John L opening the weight room....true. How many people showed up last week? 5. That's right 5. And john was ok with that turnout. Oh. And it's not free. The players have to pay for it. Way to go john. Toot toot. Ridiculousness. Only 2 months behind other programs and counting...........
If it's such a "circus" and you wouldn't be involved in your "sound mind" why are you so agitated? BTW, sorry to hear you're having a bad day; here's a little insider info that will cheer you up........
The Rams underclassmen are all secretly working out with personal trainers........at various locations around town 'cause their parents can afford it....SHHHHHH; TOP SECRET, don't tell anyone
Quote from: search4truth on March 10, 2014, 11:22:15 AM
I really wish people would stop referring to Golla as a "TEXAS" coach. The guy was born and raised here in CA. He spent one year in Texas with Jerry Campbell and came back, go the Job at BHS. He already had a decent run as a HC in highschool, before he got the BHS job. Being in Texas for one year does not make you a coach from Texas or an outsider.
Thanks for the clarification...GREAT POINT....He's done a great job rebuilding the Driller program; probably has to do with his character as much as his resume :u: :u: :u:
Bad news when the let Maples go but really devastating to the program news to hear our OC Dt Hronis has decided not to return. Wish him and his wife all the best as new parents. Many Thanks for his years of service to Garces. Besides the games I saw a few practices and without a doubt a fine coach and even better person. We will miss Dt. Now just hope the other coaches will stay with new hire. He will need them now more than ever. Go Rams
Zach Ewing tweeted that he heard the new Stockdale Coach is 2004 Stockdale grad Brett Shelton who was an assistant at North High last year.
Quote from: Van Smack on March 11, 2014, 01:58:18 PM
Zach Ewing tweeted that he heard the new Stockdale Coach is 2004 Stockdale grad Brett Shelton who was an assistant at North High last year.
Isn't that a little young? Or maybe I'm just getting old...
no surprise, Shelton is a great kid and excellent coach..coached in Sanger, has been a DC at North. He has an uphill battle that is for sure.
Quote from: Big D on March 11, 2014, 03:33:33 PM
Didn't Brett Shelton graduate from Stockdale High School
Ummm...you might want to reread what you quoted again.
Quote from: CWClassof2007 on March 11, 2014, 03:37:04 PM
Ummm...you might want to reread what you quoted again.
Just did that why I removed it. Thanks for keeping me on my toes.
Stockdale got a real class act. Brings the passion and intensity those kids desperately need. Congratulations Coach...!!!
Quote from: Van Smack on March 11, 2014, 01:58:18 PM
Zach Ewing tweeted that he heard the new Stockdale Coach is 2004 Stockdale grad Brett Shelton who was an assistant at North High last year.
And now there is one....Garces your on the Clock....LOL :huh: :huh:
Quote from: Anton Chigurh on March 11, 2014, 04:12:28 PM
Brings the passion and intensity those kids desperately need.
I sure hope you're not impling that the previous staff lacked passion or intensity.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 12, 2014, 05:35:12 PM
I sure hope you're not impling that the previous staff lacked passion or intensity.
Yeah, I hate to say this Teddy Ruxpin, but I agree with you. Snow was as intense as they come. Definitely didn't lack passion or intensity.
Darren Carr is the new Defensive Coordinator at Stockdale.
Quote from: Paladin on March 13, 2014, 07:03:57 AM
Darren Carr is the new Defensive Coordinator at Stockdale.
Good for Stockdale! Another good young coach.
I think Darren is a good young coach, I hope him having coached at Bakersfield the last few years hasn't given him an overinflated opinion of his abilities because the kids at Stockdale are a little different than those at Bakersfield High.
Looks like coach Shelton is off to a good start, getting a quality DC with a solid name behind him. Wonder if Carr will coach the OL too? In my opinion, DC and OL are the two most important coaches on any staff.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 12, 2014, 05:35:12 PM
I sure hope you're not impling that the previous staff lacked passion or intensity.
Not a knock on Snow (great respect for him as a coach) but a compliment to Shelton and also the Stockdale Admin for not hiring one of the old, tired, recycled head coaches that have been fired.
Carr is also a great move. Who's replacing Shelton as North's DC? Who's replacing Carr at Bakersfield?
Any word on Garces ?? I'm out of the loop down in B-Town again 8)
bounty, he may very well have to (coach OL) because as far as I know there is not one coach on campus at Stockdale and I don't believe that any of last years ,varsity staff anyway, will be around. Hopefully the lower level guys are back and get on board with Shelton's philosophy.
Bronco, the garces circus is still on going. I am never surprised by the garces people they need a commit to select a high school football coach! They take themselves and that little league program of theirs a little too serious.
Teddy. You are only partially correct. But Garces is a combination of not only a circus, but also a soap opera and a political campaign! Seems to be a contest with CN board/admin on who can look the most foolish. All this and garces in the end will pick a "safe" choice as they call it and will be worse off in the long run.........School board meets week after next- would assume nothing approved prior but who knows with this crew.
This maybe a stupid question( hopefully the you garces people can answer); Has this commite that was put together to find the coach that is the best fit have written down what the guide lines are for what they feel is the best coach? Will they base their finding on who interviews the best? Is there a set criteria that the applicant that is choosen must meet?
Do schools/admin/school boards even do that?
I can't answer that. But I do know for a fact the admin/JohnL/ priests are pushing hard for certain candidates over others. Why they even have outside people apply is beyond me. Why not just interview the few who fit "the safe" choice you desire and move on. This is just crazy- middle of march and still no coach. But if you remember just 2 years ago.........John L and garces did the Exact same thing. Look back at the posts and outrage then. History is repeating itself.......
Quote from: bounty hunter on March 13, 2014, 12:45:05 PM
Looks like coach Shelton is off to a good start, getting a quality DC with a solid name behind him. Wonder if Carr will coach the OL too? In my opinion, DC and OL are the two most important coaches on any staff.
Apparently Coach Carr had a change of heart and decided against going to Stockdale. He had a talk with the team and told them that he was coming back to BHS. I know that the kids on the team really like Darren and are very glad that he is coming back to BHS again.
QuoteThis maybe a stupid question for you garces people, but if this commite put together to find the coach that is the best fit i have they or do they written down what the guide lines are for what they feel is the best coach or will they base their finding on who interviews the best? Is there a set criteria that the applicant that is choosen must meet?
Do schools/admin/school boards even do that?
"Did Garces choosen their coach yet?" lol! Teddy my head is spinning trying to read your mumbo jumbo run on sentences. JK! Nobody's going to have a better resume than the guy coming from So Cal, Therion. He might seem like the obvious pick given his track record. I'm sure he stands out and many in Lamb country believe he will take their program to the promised land ala Golla at BHS. However, my guess is that he resembles Maples in many ways and thus they are moving away from that direction. My earlier thoughts were if they didn't move toward hiring him, it would be a story. I am back tracking those thoughts. I will say that even though the resume of Anton might not stack up in terms of state championships on paper, Anton more than makes up in other areas. Anton is a brilliant coach from my observations at all the places he's been at. Nixon will tell you, what he's meant to his staff. That and he is the kind of guy that is trusted as a leader, class act. And I think that is more important to Garces at this time. I'm not saying the other guy doesn't possess the character traits of the leader of the football team they are looking for. Maybe he does. But I believe John L as many others wants someone that will be there for years and he knows Anton personally. It's who ya know! For all we know Therion might be a one and done type of guy or 3 years and a cloud of dust. The fact that a coach has not been named is very telling. It's obviously a tough decision.
HAHAHA...that was terrible GHF, I better quit posting from my phone! I had to go back and edit and fix it.
Quote from: GoldenHawksFootball on March 14, 2014, 11:50:43 AM
"Did Garces choosen their coach yet?" lol!
does Garces have a smokestack for the Coaching Conclave? :D
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Quote from: GoldenHawksFootball on March 14, 2014, 11:50:43 AM
"Did Garces choosen their coach yet?" lol! Teddy my head is spinning trying to read your mumbo jumbo run on sentences. JK! Nobody's going to have a better resume than the guy coming from So Cal, Therion. He might seem like the obvious pick given his track record. I'm sure he stands out and many in Lamb country believe he will take their program to the promised land ala Golla at BHS. However, my guess is that he resembles Maples in many ways and thus they are moving away from that direction. My earlier thoughts were if they didn't move toward hiring him, it would be a story. I am back tracking those thoughts. I will say that even though the resume of Anton might not stack up in terms of state championships on paper, Anton more than makes up in other areas. Anton is a brilliant coach from my observations at all the places he's been at. Nixon will tell you, what he's meant to his staff. That and he is the kind of guy that is trusted as a leader, class act. And I think that is more important to Garces at this time. I'm not saying the other guy doesn't possess the character traits of the leader of the football team they are looking for. Maybe he does. But I believe John L as many others wants someone that will be there for years and he knows Anton personally. It's who ya know! For all we know Therion might be a one and done type of guy or 3 years and a cloud of dust. The fact that a coach has not been named is very telling. It's obviously a tough decision.
Clone, more than just those 2 were interviewed. The interviews began Saturday and went on through Wednesday due to a few coaches not being able to make it into town until mid-week. It's only been 1 day since they finished the interviews so I wouldn't make to big of a thing about it yet. Usually takes at least a week after interviews are completed before a second round of interviews or a choice would be made.
GHF, lots and lots of guessing, assumptions, theories, and shots in the dark in your essay there. But comparing JM to TT is just flat out ignorance. As well as presuming TT will only be around for one year .........especially when Anton is on his 3rd job in 4 years. That is a red flag in itself. Thanks for chiming in though.
have there been any announcements as to when they plan to name a head coach at garces or are they still interviewing the candidates
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 19, 2014, 07:58:19 AM
have there been any announcements as to when they plan to name a head coach at garces or are they still interviewing the candidates
Maybe Garces / Clovis North / and Exeter are all playing chicken right now - 1st one to blink ;) is out 8)
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 19, 2014, 07:58:19 AM
have there been any announcements as to when they plan to name a head coach at garces or are they still interviewing the candidates
Word is second round of interviews upcoming.
Any speculation on who the finalists might be?
The Coaching Committee has selected Tim Antongiovanni. Goes to Board on Tuesday for approval.
Even though I believe this to be inevitable I have not heard the same as of yet. I will hold my comments until this is verified.
Thx for the application- somewhat rhetorical. But you would be surprised.
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 21, 2014, 10:11:25 AM
Where does one get a BCHS application..........
Rhetorical as the question may be, here you go: http://www.bakersfieldchristian.com/prospectivestudents
Quote from: shafteralum on March 21, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
Rhetorical as the question may be, here you go: http://www.bakersfieldchristian.com/prospectivestudents
you should have wrote a disclaimer, so the garces supporters do not cry and accuse you of recruitment
Quote from: WHODATT on March 21, 2014, 10:04:08 AM
The Coaching Committee has selected Tim Antongiovanni. Goes to Board on Tuesday for approval.
That will strike fear into Golla, Nixon and the other SWYL coaches. Had a chance to hire a multi time state champ winner and instead the choice is a freshman coach with a year as an assistant at D6 Frazier Mountain at the varsity level. What a joke. Good job Garces, you just officially lowered your program below BCHS. Well at least you got your "Garces Guy".
Quote from: Van Smack on March 21, 2014, 02:56:45 PM
That will strike fear into Golla, Nixon and the other SWYL coaches. Had a chance to hire a multi time state champ winner and instead the choice is a freshman coach with a year as an assistant at D6 Frazier Mountain at the varsity level. What a joke. Good job Garces, you just officially lowered your program below BCHS. Well at least you got your "Garces Guy".
Shows how little you know......It's impossible to lower a program below BCHS unless of course the Eagles start scheduling 8-man programs so they can set more individual records ;)
Quote from: tailgator on March 21, 2014, 04:54:21 PM
Shows how little you know......It's impossible to lower a program below BCHS unless of course the Eagles start scheduling 8-man programs so they can set more individual records ;)
If this is the hire Garces will be back in the SSL in no time. Will get their butts handed to them in SWYL.
Quote from: tailgator on March 21, 2014, 04:54:21 PM
Shows how little you know......It's impossible to lower a program below BCHS unless of course the Eagles start scheduling 8-man programs so they can set more individual records ;)
Coming from a team that hung 61, 62, 73, and 77 in the same season. Winning by an average of 42 points in said 4 games. Oh but lemme guess, not garces fault they couldn't stop the 3s?
Quote from: tailgator on March 21, 2014, 04:54:21 PM
Shows how little you know......It's impossible to lower a program below BCHS unless of course the Eagles start scheduling 8-man programs so they can set more individual records ;)
Make a point. Schedule them.
Quote from: Big D on March 21, 2014, 05:33:40 PM
Make a point. Schedule them.
Only if you promise not to bitch when we lay a 90 spot on 'ya, are you guy's D-IV or D-V :huh: BTW we went to a joke of a BCHS camp in 2010 or '11 and the Eagle coaches complained that the Garces guy's were too rough and not polite enough; then our frosh (class of 2012) scrimmaged their frosh, what a waste of time for Garces, their offense never advanced the ball past the line of scrimmage.....Oh 'ya one guess who the Rams frosh HC was that season :huh: Take a lesson from "Da 'Burg and stay within your comfort zone ;)
Quote from: tailgator on March 21, 2014, 05:53:43 PM
Only if you promise not to bitch when we lay a 90 spot on 'ya, are you guy's D-IV or D-V :huh: BTW we went to a joke of a BCHS camp in 2010 or '11 and the Eagle coaches complained that the Garces guy's were too rough and not polite enough; then our frosh (class of 2012) scrimmaged their frosh, what a waste of time for Garces, their offense never advanced the ball past the line of scrimmage.....Oh 'ya one guess who the Rams frosh HC was that season :huh: Take a lesson from "Da 'Burg and stay within your comfort zone ;)
Sometime's listening to you physically painful.
Quote from: Roughneck005 on March 21, 2014, 06:54:51 PM
Sometime's listening to you physically painful.
OMG; you're not listening you're reading👓, stay tuned and you'll learn something......
Tailgator is an embarrassment and does not represent the GHS community. From his babble I think he said the class of 2012-their freshman year team which means the year 2008 or so. He's referring the Ghs freshman team playing BCHS freshman class that year for some reason?? That was a long time ago and BCHS has an entirely new coaching staff and has turned the corner and what he said in his post couldn't be more wrong. Garces with this possible hire Tuesday would set back years in football. Would have many 3-7 years to come with this program in my opinion. An exodus will begin along with many losing seasons ahead. MEGA blunder by Garces IF TRUE. Still not confirmed on any of what WhoDat said yet.
Quote from: tailgator on March 21, 2014, 07:35:14 PM
OMG; you're not listening you're reading👓, stay tuned and you'll learn something......
Coming from a clown that uses "OMG" I'm sure there's a lot I can learn...If this is any indication of the education being provided to students at GMHS then I sincerely hope parents are signing up for Bakersfield Christian's next open house.
I'd definitely be rooting for a BCHS victory over Garces if that game ever happened.
In the past, Force User tried to get the game. But Garces declined. The game will happen in the future.
Quote from: tailgator on March 21, 2014, 05:53:43 PM
Only if you promise not to bitch when we lay a 90 spot on 'ya, are you guy's D-IV or D-V :huh: BTW we went to a joke of a BCHS camp in 2010 or '11 and the Eagle coaches complained that the Garces guy's were too rough and not polite enough; then our frosh (class of 2012) scrimmaged their frosh, what a waste of time for Garces, their offense never advanced the ball past the line of scrimmage.....Oh 'ya one guess who the Rams frosh HC was that season :huh: Take a lesson from "Da 'Burg and stay within your comfort zone ;)
I actually promise not to complain when you put 90 on them. I just think when someone talks like this you should be willing to play the game and see how it comes out. Back in the day Garces played BHS with a slight dream of winning the game (which they did every 10 years or so) but they did it to get better and learn. Now they have the chance to play BHS, LHS, SHS, CHS, & FHS. They will get some of those in a given year but it won't be D-IV or D-V, it will be every week. When they win a game it will boost the program, if they win most of them it will really boost the program. Be happy you have the chance to prove you are the team that you think you are. But the fact is "you" don't have anything to say about who they play and should not talk about what "you" would do to BCHS.
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 21, 2014, 07:39:59 PM
Tailgator is an embarrassment and does not represent the GHS community. From his babble I think he said the class of 2012-their freshman year team which means the year 2008 or so. He's referring the Ghs freshman team playing BCHS freshman class that year for some reason?? That was a long time ago and BCHS has an entirely new coaching staff and has turned the corner and what he said in his post couldn't be more wrong. Garces with this possible hire Tuesday would set back years in football. Would have many 3-7 years to come with this program in my opinion. An exodus will begin along with many losing seasons ahead. MEGA blunder by Garces IF TRUE. Still not confirmed on any of what WhoDat said yet.
Thanks for correcting me. It was the first and last senseless camp in 2010 when the Rams had to sit their V-Team and play their JV's against the BCHS V-team; the JV's had to call off the Dog's needless to say we weren't invited back, it wasn't that long ago. On your best day Garces might consider BCHS for a warmup scrimmage if you're able to keep you're V-team on the field. "A MAN MUST KNOW HIS LIMITATIONS"🙏
Quote from: tailgator on March 22, 2014, 12:07:44 AM
Thanks for correcting me. It was the first and last senseless camp in 2010 when the Rams had to sit their V-Team and play their JV's against the BCHS V-team; the JV's had to call off the Dog's needless to say we weren't invited back, it wasn't that long ago. On your best day Garces might consider BCHS for a warmup scrimmage if you're able to keep you're V-team on the field. "A MAN MUST KNOW HIS LIMITATIONS"🙏
Well it's the weekend so I can post. I am just putting it out there right now. I will cancel my zero week game, and play Garces. Tailgator....make it happen. I know my teams limitations and this D-III, D-IV, D-V team, JV team would smack you in the mouth....and would keep bringing it it. We may not win but it would be a game, and a good game at that. There the gauntlet has been laid down, smacked across your face and shoved down your throat. I take a lot of pride in the program we have built at BCHS, are we there yet, no. But we are getting there. I have a lot of respect for the Garces football program, the coaches and the players have always been great guys to me. I learned a bunch from my experiences playing Garces at East, then coaching with Dave F.,coaching with Frank in the arena bowl, talking with Duncan on the phone ever so often, and I am looking forward to meeting Ship and DT this week as we coach together in this years arena bowl, all these guys are quality individuals. But....for you, someone who hides behind a screen name to talk so much smack, speaks volumes about you as a person. Your comments boarder the line of speak bad about something because you are scared of it. So I will repeat myself, I will cancel my zero week game to play Garces.
By the way 4 years ago is a lifetime in high school football.
On another note, I think it would be a great rivalry and something that would be fun for the city. Play the game on a Sat, we could call it the Reformation Bowl.... hahaha
Boom goes the dynamite
Quote from: Forceuser on March 22, 2014, 06:05:15 PM
Well it's the weekend so I can post. I am just putting it out there right now. I will cancel my zero week game, and play Garces. Tailgator....make it happen. I know my teams limitations and this D-III, D-IV, D-V team, JV team would smack you in the mouth....and would keep bringing it it. We may not win but it would be a game, and a good game at that. There the gauntlet has been laid down, smacked across your face and shoved down your throat. I take a lot of pride in the program we have built at BCHS, are we there yet, no. But we are getting there. I have a lot of respect for the Garces football program, the coaches and the players have always been great guys to me. I learned a bunch from my experiences playing Garces at East, then coaching with Dave F.,coaching with Frank in the arena bowl, talking with Duncan on the phone ever so often, and I am looking forward to meeting Ship and DT this week as we coach together in this years arena bowl, all these guys are quality individuals. But....for you, someone who hides behind a screen name to talk so much smack, speaks volumes about you as a person. Your comments boarder the line of speak bad about something because you are scared of it. So I will repeat myself, I will cancel my zero week game to play Garces.
By the way 4 years ago is a lifetime in high school football.
On another note, I think it would be a great rivalry and something that would be fun for the city. Play the game on a Sat, we could call it the Reformation Bowl.... hahaha
You guys aren't "there" yet? Didn't you guys play for a state championship this year? If that's not "there" for a private school in one of the most overlooked sections in the state then I don't know what is.
Quote from: Forceuser on March 22, 2014, 06:05:15 PM
But....for you, someone who hides behind a screen name to talk so much smack, speaks volumes about you as a person. Your comments boarder the line of speak bad about something because you are scared of it. So I will repeat myself, I will cancel my zero week game to play Garces.
By the way 4 years ago is a lifetime in high school football.
On another note, I think it would be a great rivalry and something that would be fun for the city. Play the game on a Sat, we could call it the Reformation Bowl.... hahaha
Forceuser,
Throwing the gauntlet down to an anonymous and cowardly whiner isn't going to get you anywhere and you know it. You're showboating. If you are truly serious, get on the phone and call John Fanucchi and Tim Antongiovanni and try to schedule a game. Remember a Derek Carr and Brandon Jones come once a decade. So get moving.
QuoteForceuser,
Throwing the gauntlet down to an anonymous and cowardly whiner isn't going to get you anywhere and you know it. You're showboating. If you are truly serious, get on the phone and call John Fanucchi and Tim Antongiovanni and try to schedule a game. Remember a Derek Carr and Brandon Jones come once a decade. So get moving.
It's pretty well documented Force tried to get the game with Maples before but Garces declined. TA has not been officially introduced as head coach yet. So getting on the phone isn't going to do anything. Until then it is all talk. But I'm sure it will happen sooner than later. I wouldn't throw Brandon into the category of Derek just yet. He did very well and he will get better as long as he stays hungry. The only thing that I disagree with Force is saying, "we may not win." The on field performance will surely shut Tailgator's pie hole up. Until then, it's just typical Tailgator talking trash trying to bait anyone he can. That's why he brings up the 80. He's never scored 80, or above 80 on anything, test, game or otherwise. He's jealous. In my opinion it is examples such as this as to why TA was hired. This is a hire that is about more than football. The rest of you are smart enough to figure that out. Tail, he will keep on being Tail...... :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:
Quote from: CWClassof2007 on March 22, 2014, 09:05:58 PM
You guys aren't "there" yet? Didn't you guys play for a state championship this year? If that's not "there" for a private school in one of the most overlooked sections in the state then I don't know what is.
I understand what you are saying CW but I am not talking about winning and losing. To me it's about the entire program, we had 73 kids in the program last year. That is about a little more than double where we were when I first got to BCHS, which at that time only had a varsity team. We have now had two years of a JV program and already with the kids we have coming in it look probable that we will have a Freshman team. We as a program are getting closer. We need to have 3 programs to make that jump to the city leagues, where we want to go. We are still a school under 500 and I think we have one more year left, in that category. Our Admin is projecting us over 500 in one more year and into 600 in four, that is exciting for us a program. That is why I say we are not there yet.
Illegal I see where you going with the show boating comment. I may have let my protective nature take over in the post. Like I said, I am very proud of what we have built, and what we are still building at BCHS. The truth is Garces canceled on us. Maples wanted to have the game, I wanted to have the game. But the AD did not. Anyways, it's all water under that bridge. We have a tough season coming up. New good coaches in league, a tough preseason, and being moved up to D-III is going to make our season a new adventure and something really look forward too. Good luck to the new head coach at Garces whoever it is. That person is going to have to mend a lot of bridges, that have been burned because of this whole process.
Quote from: Forceuser on March 23, 2014, 08:59:52 AM
I understand what you are saying CW but I am not talking about winning and losing. To me it's about the entire program, we had 73 kids in the program last year. That is about a little more than double where we were when I first got to BCHS, which at that time only had a varsity team. We have now had two years of a JV program and already with the kids we have coming in it look probable that we will have a Freshman team. We as a program are getting closer. We need to have 3 programs to make that jump to the city leagues, where we want to go. We are still a school under 500 and I think we have one more year left, in that category. Our Admin is projecting us over 500 in one more year and into 600 in four, that is exciting for us a program. That is why I say we are not there yet.
Illegal I see where you going with the show boating comment. I may have let my protective nature take over in the post. Like I said, I am very proud of what we have built, and what we are still building at BCHS. The truth is Garces canceled on us. Maples wanted to have the game, I wanted to have the game. But the AD did not. Anyways, it's all water under that bridge. We have a tough season coming up. New good coaches in league, a tough preseason, and being moved up to D-III is going to make our season a new adventure and something really look forward too. Good luck to the new head coach at Garces whoever it is. That person is going to have to mend a lot of bridges, that have been burned because of this whole process.
As you are proud and protective of your young program; I feel the same about Garces. Recall that I was one of the first to post congrats to both the Drillers as well as the Eagles for a GREAT 2013 season and putting Bako on the map. Then out of nowhere the Ram bashers slither back in the conversation, personally attacking and disparaging coaching prospects that hadn't even been hired yet, predicting the demise of the Rams football program because of decisions that may or may not go their way; but that's not enough for them, then they state that BCHS has surpassed Garces as the dominate local private school power :shy: It's true, I'm not a fan of "stat padding" that appeared to have taken place, but to go so far as to speculate that a D-II team that's been to the Valley Finals 3 straight years is all all of a sudden "all done" because of change........We'll that's simply absurd :d: Programs make changes all the time, just part of the game......Thought of the Day to the Garces bashers: GROW-UP; let the process run it's course, if the results meet with your approval then we'll welcome you're continued support, if not quietly fade away and believe me YOU will not be missed ;) BTW I agree that a standing BCHS-Garces game may someday grow into an interesting match-up similar to the opportunity that BHS allows Garces every year, but remember the Driller- Rams match-up is only interesting after decades of meetings and hard work which the Drillers have dominated.................Personally I'm not as interested in a BCHS- Garces match-up as I am in next seasons challenges for the Rams against the BIG-BOYS :u: :u: I've suggest before: Just call Da 'Burg and chat with them for a few minutes about Writing Checks that.........well you know the rest of the story :D GO RAMS
Does anybody know TA's career record, how many league titles he has won (if any). I know he coached GMHS 2012 Valley Champion team when they were freshman (with all that talent) and could not even win the SEYL. Does anybody remember his record when he coached Centennials freshman team in 2012? If I remember right he did not win a game (in league any way). So Nixon gets rid of his JV coach so his buddy TA could move up, and now he lost them both as well as two of his best athletes who transfered to bhs because they did not want to play for TA again, as well as shying away their best incoming freshman who decided to go to Frontier.WHAT HAS HE DONE TO MAKE YOU GUYS THINK HE IS A GOOD COACH?
Hopefully not true. If it is say hello 2-8 and no playoffs
Quote from: realray on March 23, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
Does anybody know TA's career record, how many league titles he has won (if any). I know he coached GMHS 2012 Valley Champion team when they were freshman (with all that talent) and could not even win the SEYL. Does anybody remember his record when he coached Centennials freshman team in 2012? If I remember right he did not win a game (in league any way). So Nixon gets rid of his JV coach so his buddy TA could move up, and now he lost them both as well as two of his best athletes who transfered to bhs because they did not want to play for TA again, as well as shying away their best incoming freshman who decided to go to Frontier.WHAT HAS HE DONE TO MAKE YOU GUYS THINK HE IS A GOOD COACH?
My sentiments exactly!
Quote from: realray on March 23, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
Does anybody know TA's career record, how many league titles he has won (if any). I know he coached GMHS 2012 Valley Champion team when they were freshman (with all that talent) and could not even win the SEYL HUH??????. Does anybody remember his record when he coached Centennials freshman team in 2012? If I remember right he did not win a game (in league any way). So Nixon gets rid of his JV coach so his buddy TA could move up, and now he lost them both as well as two of his best athletes who transfered to bhs because they did not want to play for TA again, as well as shying away their best incoming freshman who decided to go to Frontier.WHAT HAS HE DONE TO MAKE YOU GUYS THINK HE IS A GOOD COACH?
HOLY S____T SHERLOCK; are you guy's intimated by this TA dude or what, the more you disparage him the more I'm liking him.....He's scaring the crapola out of you and gaining ROCK STAR status...Please keep the barrage coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: tailgator on March 23, 2014, 08:10:12 PM
HOLY S____T SHERLOCK; are you guy's intimated by this TA dude or what, the more you disparage him the more I'm liking him.....He's scaring the crapola out of you and gaining ROCK STAR status...Please keep the barrage coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well Tailgator, you can truthfully claim (for now) that TA has never lost a game as a Varsity head coach.
Quote from: Illegal Formation on March 23, 2014, 09:18:00 PM
Well Tailgator, you can truthfully claim (for now) that TA has never lost a game as a Varsity head coach.
Your 19th post and a brilliant one at that..............just stop while your behind :)-
Tail, Intimidated by Anton? Hope ur kidding. I get the allegiance to ur family but come on guy. Never intimidated. Not the right word choice or context. More like nervous and scared for our football program. Words associated with his possible hire and the program would be destroy, ruin, catastrophe and politics. How many zeros did daddy Stan have to put on the check behind the 1 this time for TA to be hired? That is the issue ( along with passing up of Extremely MORE qualified coaches like Therrien, Keirin, and Gonzalez). Because If TA is hired this will be seen as a huge political move and he will be behind the start line from which he may never recover. Add to that the exodus of players and coaches who want no part of it. TA will be bailing water fast. TA wake up. Smell the coffee buddy. In addition, the alumni and boosters who will be stepping back from this blunder How John L doesn't see this is unacceptable. If hired, ANOTHER huge mistake by the Administration. How many does it take before you they let you go John?
Tail- speaking of "the burg", you sound just like a few of their overly dramatic posters over the last few years. So ironic you bring them up. Actually you sound worse.
Apologies to BCHS for involving you- tail is attempting to change the subject and divert everyone from paying attention to the disaster on the hill by typing "his ideas" of being funny and seeing the rise he gets out of people.
I have intentionally remained silent during all of this banter about our coaching search. However, I am appalled by the depths some will sink to in order to promote their chosen candidate or tear down the opposition. Drudging up someone's alleged criminal history to bash the character of a person volunteering to be a high school head football coach is pretty low, even for some of the tactics on this site. PinkMan, if you are going to publicize facts that tend to defame a man's character, at least tell the whole story. The arrest which you are referring to (and it was only an arrest) was not "recent"--it happened three years ago in May of 2011. The charges were dismissed in the interests of justice in Sept 2011. Dismissed means thrown out--no point in wasting taxpayer's money. From a legal standpoint, a mere arrest that does not lead to any plea bargain or conviction has no significance from an employment standard. It should equally have no significance from a character standpoint. I really have to question the motivation in making this non-information public. This issue would have been something the Selection Committee would have covered during the interview process and it would have been given whatever significance the committee felt was appropriate. So what is the importance of announcing this information on a public website a few days before the coaching selection is announced? To destroy a man's reputation? All because he has applied to dedicate about 800 hours for less than $2,500 to help guide young men in their athletic activities? This is high school football man--get a life.
Good Post Ski. :u: :u:
Quote from: CoachSki on March 24, 2014, 01:12:40 PM
I have intentionally remained silent during all of this banter about our coaching search. However, I am appalled by the depths some will sink to in order to promote their chosen candidate or tear down the opposition. Drudging up someone's alleged criminal history to bash the character of a person volunteering to be a high school head football coach is pretty low, even for some of the tactics on this site. PinkMan, if you are going to publicize facts that tend to defame a man's character, at least tell the whole story. The arrest which you are referring to (and it was only an arrest) was not "recent"--it happened three years ago in May of 2011. The charges were dismissed in the interests of justice in Sept 2011. Dismissed means thrown out--no point in wasting taxpayer's money. From a legal standpoint, a mere arrest that does not lead to any plea bargain or conviction has no significance from an employment standard. It should equally have no significance from a character standpoint. I really have to question the motivation in making this non-information public. This issue would have been something the Selection Committee would have covered during the interview process and it would have been given whatever significance the committee felt was appropriate. So what is the importance of announcing this information on a public website a few days before the coaching selection is announced? To destroy a man's reputation? All because he has applied to dedicate about 800 hours for less than $2,500 to help guide young men in their athletic activities? This is high school football man--get a life.
Well said ...
Way too much jaw-jacking re: GMHS coaching delimma ...
I trust JF's judgement and the process. They have the best interest's of Garces and the program at heart. Give it and them the respect they've earned ...
Just sayin' ... M2C's ...
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 24, 2014, 06:18:45 AM
Tail, Intimidated by Anton? Hope ur kidding. I get the allegiance to ur family but come on guy. Never intimidated. Not the right word choice or context. More like nervous and scared for our football program. Words associated with his possible hire and the program would be destroy, ruin, catastrophe and politics. How many zeros did daddy Stan have to put on the check behind the 1 this time for TA to be hired? That is the issue ( along with passing up of Extremely MORE qualified coaches like Therrien, Keirin, and Gonzalez). Because If TA is hired this will be seen as a huge political move and he will be behind the start line from which he may never recover. Add to that the exodus of players and coaches who want no part of it. TA will be bailing water fast. TA wake up. Smell the coffee buddy. In addition, the alumni and boosters who will be stepping back from this blunder How John L doesn't see this is unacceptable. If hired, ANOTHER huge mistake by the Administration. How many does it take before you they let you go John?
Tail- speaking of "the burg", you sound just like a few of their overly dramatic posters over the last few years. So ironic you bring them up. Actually you sound worse.
Apologies to BCHS for involving you- tail is attempting to change the subject and divert everyone from paying attention to the disaster on the hill by typing "his ideas" of being funny and seeing the rise he gets out of people.
Firstly; perhaps you're right.......after reading (hopefully) your last post I should've added "Exceedingly" before Intimidated :( Man; you've got IT bad...attacking TA's family and calling for John L.'s job after decades of service to Garces so you can help "protect "our" football program" NEWS FLASH...It ain't "our" program it belongs solely to the school and either the Principal or President will preside over it, Thankfully YOU HAVE NO SAY IN THE MATTER :D.
Secondly; Here's a heads up for you....TA already has his staff in place.....by the nature of your disgruntledness we'll suppose you didn't get a call :shock:
Lastly; Tail's not trying to change the subject, just meander back a page or two and you'll learn that Van Smack introduced BCHS into the conversation asserting that Garces had sunk below the Eagles....blah,blah,blah......I was merely correcting him; again, sorry Forceuser, didn't intend to drag you into the thread ;).
Go Rams!
Quote from: tailgator on March 24, 2014, 02:15:39 PM
Secondly; Here's a heads up for you....TA already has his staff in place.....by the nature of your disgruntledness we'll suppose you didn't get a call
Does TA's staff include any of Garces' coaches from last year?
Quote from: Forceuser on March 22, 2014, 06:05:15 PM
Well it's the weekend so I can post. I am just putting it out there right now. I will cancel my zero week game, and play Garces. Tailgator....make it happen. I know my teams limitations and this D-III, D-IV, D-V team, JV team would smack you in the mouth....and would keep bringing it it. We may not win but it would be a game, and a good game at that. There the gauntlet has been laid down, smacked across your face and shoved down your throat. I take a lot of pride in the program we have built at BCHS, are we there yet, no. But we are getting there. I have a lot of respect for the Garces football program, the coaches and the players have always been great guys to me. I learned a bunch from my experiences playing Garces at East, then coaching with Dave F.,coaching with Frank in the arena bowl, talking with Duncan on the phone ever so often, and I am looking forward to meeting Ship and DT this week as we coach together in this years arena bowl, all these guys are quality individuals. But....for you, someone who hides behind a screen name to talk so much smack, speaks volumes about you as a person. Your comments boarder the line of speak bad about something because you are scared of it. So I will repeat myself, I will cancel my zero week game to play Garces.
By the way 4 years ago is a lifetime in high school football.
On another note, I think it would be a great rivalry and something that would be fun for the city. Play the game on a Sat, we could call it the Reformation Bowl.... hahaha
Thanks for the kind words about me Jerald. I value your opinion as a fellow coach and friend. You have your program going in the right direction and you are doing an excellent job, let nobody tell you otherwise.
Quote from: CoachSki on March 24, 2014, 01:12:40 PM
I have intentionally remained silent during all of this banter about our coaching search. However, I am appalled by the depths some will sink to in order to promote their chosen candidate or tear down the opposition. Drudging up someone's alleged criminal history to bash the character of a person volunteering to be a high school head football coach is pretty low, even for some of the tactics on this site. PinkMan, if you are going to publicize facts that tend to defame a man's character, at least tell the whole story. The arrest which you are referring to (and it was only an arrest) was not "recent"--it happened three years ago in May of 2011. The charges were dismissed in the interests of justice in Sept 2011. Dismissed means thrown out--no point in wasting taxpayer's money. From a legal standpoint, a mere arrest that does not lead to any plea bargain or conviction has no significance from an employment standard. It should equally have no significance from a character standpoint. I really have to question the motivation in making this non-information public. This issue would have been something the Selection Committee would have covered during the interview process and it would have been given whatever significance the committee felt was appropriate. So what is the importance of announcing this information on a public website a few days before the coaching selection is announced? To destroy a man's reputation? All because he has applied to dedicate about 800 hours for less than $2,500 to help guide young men in their athletic activities? This is high school football man--get a life.
I couldn't agree with you more Ski! The mud-slinging and complaining needs to stop. Makes the school, football program, and people associated with it look like petty little spoiled brats; which could not be farther from the truth.
Quote from: tailgator on March 24, 2014, 02:15:39 PM
Secondly; Here's a heads up for you....TA already has his staff in place.....by the nature of your disgruntledness we'll suppose you didn't get a call
Well then, I guess I am not part of the staff since I also didn't get a call. Good luck to the new staff and the GMHS football program. God Bless everyone associated with the school and program, it is not time to be disgruntled, it is time to rally around the new coach and his staff and move forward.
I agree with coachski. That was completely uncalled for and demonstrates a lower character than an arrest for drunkenness! :)-
What I think has been lost in all of this is that those who are angry are angry with the Garces for the schlocky way they have done things for years. I think Tim will be a great coach for Garces. But he is not the most qualified applicant. The ideal scenario would be for Tim to assist for 5 or 6 years then move to the top. But they don't care ! They do not respect their constituency.
Back when Maples moved from assist. to head, The Garces admin attempted what they are now accomplishing. The 2012 team was the most exciting football team I've watched in hs football and imo the best single season team to ever play at Garces. Maples was the only guy that would have completely changed the offense to match the athletes on that team. It was a juggernaut to say the least. If Maples had been ousted and replaced with the status quo pick the stupid white trash wing tee would have been implemented and all the little green bloods would have been happy with the insanity.
In 2010 people bitched long and loud to keep maples. The people won! the valley was won! :u:.........fast forward to the present and the people have now lost. The process has been cheated but is was the school that did it, not Tim.
Good luck to Tim, next year is going to be a building yr and he will be blamed for it but good things lay ahead.
Quote from: CoachSki on March 24, 2014, 01:12:40 PM
I have intentionally remained silent during all of this banter about our coaching search. However, I am appalled by the depths some will sink to in order to promote their chosen candidate or tear down the opposition. Drudging up someone's alleged criminal history to bash the character of a person volunteering to be a high school head football coach is pretty low, even for some of the tactics on this site. PinkMan, if you are going to publicize facts that tend to defame a man's character, at least tell the whole story. The arrest which you are referring to (and it was only an arrest) was not "recent"--it happened three years ago in May of 2011. The charges were dismissed in the interests of justice in Sept 2011. Dismissed means thrown out--no point in wasting taxpayer's money. From a legal standpoint, a mere arrest that does not lead to any plea bargain or conviction has no significance from an employment standard. It should equally have no significance from a character standpoint. I really have to question the motivation in making this non-information public. This issue would have been something the Selection Committee would have covered during the interview process and it would have been given whatever significance the committee felt was appropriate. So what is the importance of announcing this information on a public website a few days before the coaching selection is announced? To destroy a man's reputation? All because he has applied to dedicate about 800 hours for less than $2,500 to help guide young men in their athletic activities? This is high school football man--get a life.
:u:x100
Quote from: Whoson1st on March 24, 2014, 03:20:30 PM
Good luck to Tim, next year is going to be a re-building yr and he will be blamed for it but good things lay ahead.
Shouldn't be a re-building year at all. Only 9 seniors lost off last years team. Croney and the entire line (minus Grimm) back this team should be a major contender if not the favorite in D2. This is the year to win it all, a great situation for the new coach and his staff.
Quote from: Whoson1st on March 24, 2014, 03:20:30 PM
I agree with coachski. That was completely uncalled for and demonstrates a lower character than an arrest for drunkenness! :)-
What I think has been lost in all of this is that those who are angry are angry with the Garces for the schlocky way they have done things for years. I think Tim will be a great coach for Garces. But he is not the most qualified applicant. The ideal scenario would be for Tim to assist for 5 or 6 years then move to the top. But they don't care ! They do not respect their constituency.
Back when Maples moved from assist. to head, The Garces admin attempted what they are now accomplishing. The 2012 team was the most exciting football team I've watched in hs football and imo the best single season team to ever play at Garces. Maples was the only guy that would have completely changed the offense to match the athletes on that team. It was a juggernaut to say the least. If Maples had been ousted and replaced with the status quo pick the stupid white trash wing tee would have been implemented and all the little green bloods would have been happy with the insanity.
In 2010 people bitched long and loud to keep maples. The people won! the valley was won! :u:.........fast forward to the present and the people have now lost. The process has been cheated but is was the school that did it, not Tim.
Good luck to Tim, next year is going to be a building yr and he will be blamed for it but good things lay ahead.
Bullseye :u: Maples had the foresight and swagger in his
very first year as HC to junk an obsolete offense and, if you recall the quote; "Light up Tobias Field like Ram Fans have never seen before"!!!! Then, immediately out of the crevices the Maples bashers chime in, it was relentless and carried on this site for two years. But he persevered and kept winning, breaking every record in the history books and bringing a VC home......If you recall
they were ready to write him and the Rams off after their opening loss to SLO last season but they stood strong, regrouped and continued to improve and made it right back to the show :u: Now it's begun all over again; predicting a new coaches failure before he's even had the opportunity to perform. It's really not worth the keystrokes addressing the "naysayers"; how in the hell do any of you know how a new coach will fair?????????? What makes any of you such prognosticators that you know all and see all (except of course for TKGB who predicted the Drillers would beat the Rams in their last two meetings) :huh: The Rams will be Great; they always are, once the decision is made and announced the supporters will be right there like they always are and Tobias Field will be rock'in again ;) BTW: PI; just kidding about already choosing the staff.......just wanted to put CITK out of his misery :D GO RAMS
Quote from: Illegal Formation on March 24, 2014, 04:36:46 PM
PigIron,
Who does Garces have at wide receiver and quarterback?
With the O-Line back - just give the "ROCK" to that RB of yours :D The QB can hand it to him & the Wr's can learn to stock block
Quote from: tailgator on March 24, 2014, 04:21:26 PM
Bullseye :u: Maples had the foresight and swagger in his very first year as HC to junk an obsolete offense and, if you recall the quote; "Light up Tobias Field like Ram Fans have never seen before"!!!! Then, immediately out of the crevices the Maples bashers chime in, it was relentless and carried on this site for two years. But he persevered and kept winning, breaking every record in the history books and bringing a VC home......If you recall they were ready to write him and the Rams off after their opening loss to SLO last season but they stood strong, regrouped and continued to improve and made it right back to the show :u: Now it's begun all over again; predicting a new coaches failure before he's even had the opportunity to perform. It's really not worth the keystrokes addressing the "naysayers"; how in the hell do any of you know how a new coach will fair?????????? What makes any of you such prognosticators that you know all and see all (except of course for TKGB who predicted the Drillers would beat the Rams in their last two meetings) :huh: The Rams will be Great; they always are, once the decision is made and announced the supporters will be right there like they always are and Tobias Field will be rock'in again ;) BTW: PI; just kidding about already choosing the staff.......just wanted to put CITK out of his misery :D GO RAMS
blah blah blah...i have and always will remember maples for one thing, and that's when he gave one of our coaches a "F you and your team" comment when I was a senior. such class
Quote from: taysdad on March 24, 2014, 05:26:37 PM
blah blah blah...i have and always will remember maples for one thing, and that's when he gave one of our coaches a "F you and your team" comment when I was a senior. such class
Good thing you didn't play for permenter or Briggs in the 60's and 70's. Getting your feelings hurt was permitted less than water breaks.
Quote from: Whoson1st on March 24, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
Good thing you didn't play for permenter or Briggs in the 60's and 70's. Getting your feelings hurt was permitted less than water breaks.
:u: I watched Coach Briggs climb up into the stands after a heckler on the way into half time at Tom Flores Field in the play-offs. The guy kept pooping off(from the visitors side) as the Drillers left the field & Coach Briggs stopped / had words with the guy / and then climbed up after him :u: BHS ran Dillard (sp) at the Apaches 58 plays out of 60 off plays 8) ( you Garecs guys might think about that game plan this fall)
Quote from: Whoson1st on March 24, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
Good thing you didn't play for permenter or Briggs in the 60's and 70's. Getting your feelings hurt was permitted less than water breaks.
OK......The single best reply on this thread :D
QuoteGood thing you didn't play for permenter or Briggs in the 60's and 70's. Getting your feelings hurt was permitted less than water breaks.
Don't think Tays Dad's response was implying he wasn't tough or couldn't handle playing for someone like a Maples or a Briggs. What he experienced did not give him a good impression. Like many others have experienced. It's beyond the football field of play. It's a very common opinion so get over it. It does not require any foresight or swagger to junk a wing t system. Any coach would have done so. You run what you know and what you think will give your team success. Point blank. It's not rocket science.
Quote from: GoldenHawksFootball on March 24, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
Don't think Tays Dad's response was implying he wasn't tough or couldn't handle playing for someone like a Maples or a Briggs. What he experienced did not give him a good impression. Like many others have experienced. It's beyond the football field of play. It's a very common opinion so get over it. It does not require any foresight or swagger to junk a wing t system. Any coach would have done so. You run what you know and what you think will give your team success. Point blank. It's not rocket science.
You are incorrect in everything you just said He is pop culture sissy. And u are the enabler. Kids his age don't hear about stick s and stones growing up. Bummer :d:
Quote from: Bronco on March 24, 2014, 05:02:42 PM
With the O-Line back - just give the "ROCK" to that RB of yours :D The QB can hand it to him & the Wr's can learn to stock block
That's aspirin for a headache. As the soph qb seasons it will be best to give Sheldon the rock
Quote from: Bronco on March 24, 2014, 06:51:14 PM
:u: I watched Coach Briggs climb up into the stands after a heckler on the way into half time at Tom Flores Field in the play-offs. The guy kept pooping off(from the visitors side) as the Drillers left the field & Coach Briggs stopped / had words with the guy / and then climbed up after him :u: BHS ran Dillard (sp) at the Apaches 58 plays out of 60 off plays 8) ( you Garecs guys might think about that game plan this fall)
I have many of those stories. I was fortunate to be influence by them. Not all good but u can learn from everthying you hear Fools and sages. :u:
Everyone. Enough of the grousing, whining and complaining about the new Garces Head Coach. The selection has been made by a reasonably independent committee who did everything that was expected of them. They had all of the facts supporting their decision, we did not. While TA was not my first choice, I will support him 100% as should all of you Garces Fans. Why add all of this drama to the players lives? Let them enjoy participating in this great sport of football, free from the bickering and disparagement by the parents as well as the outside agitators who are happily salivating at all of the disfunction swirling around them. I wish Tim the best and sincerely hope that he reaches out to a winning team of assistant coaches at Garces who can certainly ease the transition for him. From great turmoil breeds great opportunity. Tim, seize the day, silence the naysayers and make a positive impact of the players' lives. Go Rams.
Quote from: Whoson1st on March 24, 2014, 07:54:39 PM
You are incorrect in everything you just said He is pop culture sissy. And u are the enabler. Kids his age don't hear about stick s and stones growing up. Bummer :d:
GHF is right, all impression. as to your personal attack on me, i was raised in an oil driller's household where respect is earned. yes sir, yes ma'am. where acting up or disrespect resulted in a belt across the backsid. i played for provensal and dale tedrow. expeirenced plenty of harsh words and kept on truckin no problem what so ever. witnessed provensal get called out go after the guy after a clovis west playoff loss in 03 and was right behind him to back him up. but in a pre game warmup (where the field is always split at the 50) maples has his players on our 40 and an assistant coach says hey coach, think you could move your guys to the other side of the 50, and that's his response? ok that's fine, enjoy the 35-3 arse whoopin.
Quote from: taysdad on March 25, 2014, 08:10:49 AM
GHF is right, all impression. as to your personal attack on me, i was raised in an oil driller's household where respect is earned. yes sir, yes ma'am. where acting up or disrespect resulted in a belt across the backsid. i played for provensal and dale tedrow. expeirenced plenty of harsh words and kept on truckin no problem what so ever. witnessed provensal get called out go after the guy after a clovis west playoff loss in 03 and was right behind him to back him up. but in a pre game warmup (where the field is always split at the 50) maples has his players on our 40 and an assistant coach says hey coach, think you could move your guys to the other side of the 50, and that's his response? ok that's fine, enjoy the 35-3 arse whoopin.
sorry for the personal attack. I should have said you comment was "pop-culture sissy" I think Maples record was 23-3 as HC @ Garces so it's hard to believe thats all you remember.
Quote from: Whoson1st on March 25, 2014, 09:18:19 AM
sorry for the personal attack. I should have said you comment was "pop-culture sissy" I think Maples record was 23-3 as HC @ Garces so it's hard to believe thats all you remember.
i'm talking about 2004 season, when he was at east
Quote from: taysdad on March 25, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
i'm talking about 2004 season, when he was at east
He had a pretty good D2 team that year......Valley Champions, I believe......I was looking at MaxPreps and it's amazing that the top two seeds in D2 were 7-3 going into the playoffs.....
Quote from: diesel on March 25, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
He had a pretty good D2 team that year......Valley Champions, I believe......I was looking at MaxPreps and it's amazing that the top two seeds in D2 were 7-3 going into the playoffs.....
Yes they were valley champs
Quote from: Illegal Formation on March 24, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
Everyone. Enough of the grousing, whining and complaining about the new Garces Head Coach. The selection has been made by a reasonably independent committee who did everything that was expected of them. They had all of the facts supporting their decision, we did not. While TA was not my first choice, I will support him 100% as should all of you Garces Fans. Why add all of this drama to the players lives? Let them enjoy participating in this great sport of football, free from the bickering and disparagement by the parents as well as the outside agitators who are happily salivating at all of the disfunction swirling around them. I wish Tim the best and sincerely hope that he reaches out to a winning team of assistant coaches at Garces who can certainly ease the transition for him. From great turmoil breeds great opportunity. Tim, seize the day, silence the naysayers and make a positive impact of the players' lives. Go Rams.
Almost a sincere endorsement.....would've been more convincing without all the qualifiers....Who cares if TA wasn't YOUR first choice; were you on the
"reasonably independent" selection committee or perhaps you sit on the board of directors.....Please clarify so we can weight you opinion :huh:
Quote from: tailgator on March 25, 2014, 11:47:38 AM
Almost a sincere endorsement.....would've been more convincing without all the qualifiers....Who cares if TA wasn't YOUR first choice; were you on the "reasonably independent" selection committee or perhaps you sit on the board of directors.....Please clarify so we can weight you opinion :huh:
Obviously John L and Susank were not independent. Even you would have to admit that. The remaining members, in my opinion were independent. But like you say, who cares about anyone's opinion but yours. In any event, all of the committee members believed that they were acting in the best interests of the school. Re read my last post. The committee had all the facts before them. You and I don't. I am willing to accept their decision and support TA 100%. If someone whose first choice was not TA was willing to give him 100% support, then I had hoped that others who were outright hostile to TA would give him a chance and all of the pettiness would stop. I doubt that you would have done the same SA if the choice had been Therrien.
For me nothing personal. Just as a selection as our coach. They passed on him 2x for a reason. TA will be a 2 year disaster of 2-8 maybe 3-7 and then we will blow up this tread again looking for our next coach. Bad job by the committee. You had a State Champion coach at your door and will be sorry.
Agree with Goal 100%. Going to be difficult overcoming such a flawed process. Can't wait to hear how higher ups explain this.........we passed on one of the best coaches in the state because.........(fill in how you like here)
I must have missed something in the newspaper. Did Garces announce a new HC?
Quote from: Illegal Formation on March 25, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
Obviously John L and Susank were not independent. Even you would have to admit that. The remaining members, in my opinion were independent. But like you say, who cares about anyone's opinion but yours. In any event, all of the committee members believed that they were acting in the best interests of the school. Re read my last post. The committee had all the facts before them. You and I don't. I am willing to accept their decision and support TA 100%. If someone whose first choice was not TA was willing to give him 100% support, then I had hoped that others who were outright hostile to TA would give him a chance and all of the pettiness would stop. I doubt that you would have done the same SA if the choice had been Therrien.
No, I do not admit that any of the committee members were biased. From all the posts I'll assume John L. was a committee member but I have no idea who the others might be and don't care. I support every applicant and the committees final choice. I don't know that TA or anyone else has officially been selected or approved. I've heard rumor that the list was down to four, whom ever is ultimately selected I'm 100% behind him and am confident that person will keep the winning tradition alive and well :u:
OK enough. We have all heard you. The majority of you guys support and want TA as your coach. But nobody knows anything yet. Nothing has been announced, so why keeping talking just to hear yourself talk, spread rumors and what not. Even Tailgator says, I don't know anything about what is going on or who has been selected. So then stop talking about it like you have breaking news.
I understand that this board is to discuss things and peoples opinions and what not, but stop beating the dead horse until there is somethig to really talk about.
Quote from: search4truth on March 26, 2014, 08:33:36 AM
OK enough. We have all heard you. The majority of you guys support and want TA as your coach. But nobody knows anything yet. Nothing has been announced, so why keeping talking just to hear yourself talk, spread rumors and what not. Even Tailgator says, I don't know anything about what is going on or who has been selected. So then stop talking about it like you have breaking news.
I understand that this board is to discuss things and peoples opinions and what not, but stop beating the dead horse until there is somethig to really talk about.
Let me explain how this board works.. because I don't think you "understand" (as you claim to do). We have something called free will... and, since everyone on this board is an adult (technically), nobody needs you to tell them to stop doing anything. This board is monitored by administrators who will lock it out if it gets out of hand... so, nobody needs you to be the CVHS nanny. Here is some advice... if you don't approve of the posts on a particular topic, utilize your free will... and don't click on that topic. FYI, at least two other posts refer to stopping the bashing, rumors, etc. on this topic... yet, you feel compelled to add you two cents... or, as you put it... "talking to hear yourself talk" and "beating the dead horse". Take some of your own advice.... if there is nothing to talk about, STFU Donny! (That was a reference to The Big Lebowski movie in case you didn't know where "Donny" came from).
Quote from: mw1 on March 26, 2014, 09:06:57 AM
Let me explain how this board works.. because I don't think you "understand" (as you claim to do). We have something called free will... and, since everyone on this board is an adult (technically), nobody needs you to tell them to stop doing anything. This board is monitored by administrators who will lock it out if it gets out of hand... so, nobody needs you to be the CVHS nanny. Here is some advice... if you don't approve of the posts on a particular topic, utilize your free will... and don't click on that topic. FYI, at least two other posts refer to stopping the bashing, rumors, etc. on this topic... yet, you feel compelled to add you two cents... or, as you put it... "talking to hear yourself talk" and "beating the dead horse". Take some of your own advice.... if there is nothing to talk about, STFU Donny! (That was a reference to The Big Lebowski movie in case you didn't know where "Donny" came from).
:u: :u: :u: :u: :u:
Kinda ironic, that you are telling me that we have free will, yet you are telling me to shut the F@#$ up. Kind of a visicious cycle of you being a douche bag. If like you said others had commented as I did, then there might be some validity to what I was saying. Unlike you, who tries to be the tough guy and be rude and call people names for no reason. Obviously a cover up for lack of education and knowledge. There is an intelligent, considerate, and strong way to get your point across without being a D-bag.
So now here WE are in a pointless arguement over nothing, talking about nothing which is what my whole original point was. I guess nice job, you dragged me into this useless world of...... whatever. I am going to stop.
Quote from: search4truth on March 26, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
Kinda ironic, that you are telling me that we have free will, yet you are telling me to shut the F@#$ up. Kind of a visicious cycle of you being a douche bag. If like you said others had commented as I did, then there might be some validity to what I was saying. Unlike you, who tries to be the tough guy and be rude and call people names for no reason. Obviously a cover up for lack of education and knowledge. There is an intelligent, considerate, and strong way to get your point across without being a D-bag.
So now here WE are in a pointless arguement over nothing, talking about nothing which is what my whole original point was. I guess nice job, you dragged me into this useless world of...... whatever. I am going to stop.
I am being a "tough guy" and name-caller because I said.... what? Because I said that adults on this site don't need a "nanny"?? I just found it totally ironic that your post-just-to-hear-yourself post that was criticizing others for posting just to hear themselves. I will quote a person of superior education and knowledge... who once posted: " stop beating the dead horse until there is somethig to really talk about." I never said you shouldn't post if you feel compelled to do so... just don't criticize others for doing the same thing. Or, are you a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do type of person? Because you have free will... and yet, continue to blather on and on about nothing. Don't be too sensitive...
mw, leave the kid alone. He showed his age calling you a "douche bag"/D-bag and intelligence level by using ironic inncorrectly; you obviously hurt the young lads feelings. He thinks this is a board where we all agree with everyone so no ones feelings get hurt. search4truth, unruffel your panties son or go away, if mw's mild comment hurt you you'll be rendered to tears come August.
So what's up my friends; doesn't anyone want to play anymore 8)
I will play. Lets hope this delay in announcement is good news for Rams.
What good news are you looking for? Apparently offer was made and now the person has to "think" about it. Really? Why did he even apply? Got the job on the 3rd try and now you're going g to think about it?
If that is the case then the good news would be he says thanks but no thanks you should hire the coach with the rings that knows how to do this. Then we have a legit shot at this new league.
Not only thinking about it...........he is demanding more $$$$. Lot more $
Guy gets a gift and making demands.........now that's funny.
Is this true? :huh: or is it just hear say :huh:
If it is true it really shows how a tangled web we weave /........and so on.
:shy: :shy: :shy: :shy:
Very true.
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 28, 2014, 09:07:28 AM
Not only thinking about it...........he is demanding more $$$$. Lot more $
Guy gets a gift and making demands.........now that's funny.
maybe he's been reading this thread and realizes that he needs to be paid commensurate to the BS he needs to put up with....
Something doesn't add up. If he was applying for the job he must have known what the job paid right???? :huh:
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 28, 2014, 09:07:28 AM
Not only thinking about it...........he is demanding more $$$$. Lot more $
Guy gets a gift and making demands.........now that's funny.
that's rich, you really believe that being offered the head job at garces is a "gift"...HAHAHAHA what a freakin' joke.
Quote from: SCrubjay on March 28, 2014, 10:31:04 AM
maybe he's been reading this thread and realizes that he needs to be paid commensurate to the BS he needs to put up with....
tru dat :u: :u: :u: :u:
Word is TA has "accepted" the job but still no official word from anyone who "really" knows. Why is that?
Quote from: coachintheknow on March 28, 2014, 09:07:28 AM
Not only thinking about it...........he is demanding more $$$$. Lot more $
Guy gets a gift and making demands.........now that's funny.
That's how the Big Boy's roll! Garces is not a public enterprise that dictates pay scales; can CITK disclose to us what the terms of the compensation package was/ is??????
Sure- I will send it to you TG
Teddy- coaching anywhere is not only a gift, but an honor and a privilege. What I meant by gift was- TA wasn't the best candidate to most of us GHS fans/alumni/ coaches etc. But was still offered the job. And by no means rich. Hell no. No high school jig is gonna make anyone rich. Especially when you break down the hourly wage. Was on my phone on a road trip and just meant to say he was holding out for more money is all. Just thought it was extremely odd that what most people were saying was "his dream job" and he was going to think about it.
We move on.
you're wrong, it's not a "gift" honor or privilege, you're coaching high school football don't try to romanticize it and make more than it is. By "rich" I meant that it was that your comment was preposterous, not that you get rich coaching. I don't know the situation none have spoke to anyone close to it, but what you "that is in the know" fail to see is that he is doing what seems to be making sure that a career move makes sense financially, see not everyone believes that coaching hs football is such a privilege that you scarifies your family's lifestyle. An intelligent person would not take the first offer, that's just stupid...apparently you don't "know" that (no surprise to me really). So, because its a dream job, you don't consider compensation and you have to justify it? You do know there is life after hs football? What I see as funny as that you have had a knee jerk reaction without analysing all angles...maybe you're just sore that you got passed up for the job...THAT'S IT! Your feelings are hurt because you got passed up!! HAHAHAHAHAHA Now it makes sense why you just started posting here!
HAHAHAHA. That's funny stuff. One thing correct on your little rant is
"I don't know the situation"
Obviously you don't.
-Coming from someone who lives on this site......thanks for the heads up that there is life after HS football .
- no I didn't apply and don't even coach football anymore
-if you apply 3x you probably should know if it's gonna work out for you financially
Thx for the laughs guy.
again you're wrong, me coming on this site to converse with people with the a like interest and thinking that coaching is a gift and you should adjust your entire financial situation to coach at your "dream job" to two entirely different things, or can't you see that? You skirt everything I said and say "you're right you don't know"; You, guy, are a dumb. When you apply for a job, you negotiate the financial details after...again more proof that you're a clueless lamb (fitting).
Coach in the know, did you coach hs football last year? For Garces?
Redneck girl, frank the tank, and D Lion have been very quiet on the topic lately.
Also Coach Ski I value your opinions. Are you all on mute?
Not on mute. I just have nothing worthwhile to add to this discussion. I would only be offering pure speculation and supposition. I am on pins and needles though . . . We need to conclude this process and get to the business of coaching HS football. I really miss the kids and can't wait to get started (assuming I am invited back of course).
While we're waiting for an announcement the high school coaching compensation question is intriguing. For the sake of this discussion let's use football as an example; here's my question: You're a HC, OC or DC of a local high school program, it's been established that the pay for these local positions are in no way commiserate with the time and effort put forth. So Coach has a 5 star or two going through his program, he teaches them, trains them, makes sure their pulling grades and in some cases babysits them through their four year HS career. Let's say coach wins league, a section title and possibly gets a state playoff game. Now 5 star(s) get a FB ride so that family's gained financially from having played under Coach; the school realizes huge notoriety perhaps attracts more applicants and financial supporters as a result of Coach's efforts......................other than PRIDE and personal satisfaction when does Coach get some love (compensation) for his/her performance and success???? Like TKGB said; if able, it's a necessity for Coach to negotiate his/her compensation package before they sign the contract 'cause there ain't no bonuses coming afterwards; yet, as witnessed locally this year Coach is certainly exposed to getting canned after any given season regardless of his/her successes. Not to get wrapped up in semantics but the term "GIFT" cuts both ways.......High Schools are arguably the recipient of a "GIFT" when they land coaches that have the passion and willingness to sacrifice personal and family time for the program under the current pay structures.
totally agree with you gator, but to expand on your post some; taking a HC position is an enormous lifestyle change and a person deserves to be compensated for their time. Unfortunately the coaches in the KHSD don't have the luxury of negotiating their pay/contract. Personally I think, if in fact it's true what has been said here, its a extremely smart move to negotiate pay. Its the job of the people that hire to get the most for the least amount of pay, thats just business, its the person's responsibility to get as much compensation as possible. Here's a scenario, lets say the coach takes the job, leaves his current job, and in x many seasons he is fired. Then what will he stay on at garces as the dean or be let go from that position as well? Should he not take that into consideration when accepting a job?
Isn't it time for someone to produce a hitler rant on this thread. :u: :D
as soon as I see reason...I will
Androgen for men. Your testosterone is dropping U were this one mighty teddy.
Quote from: Whoson1st on March 30, 2014, 12:24:29 PM
Isn't it time for someone to produce a hitler rant on this thread. :u: :D
Please... somebody put together one of these for this topic.. will be hilarious. Here is the link to the Hitler Rants videos:
http://downfall.jfedor.org/create/
Quote from: Whoson1st on March 30, 2014, 06:34:30 PM
Androgen for men. Your testosterone is dropping U were this one mighty teddy.
My testosterone level needs no boost, it's fine just like it is...izne on the other hand...
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 30, 2014, 10:26:57 AM
totally agree with you gator, but to expand on your post some; taking a HC position is an enormous lifestyle change and a person deserves to be compensated for their time. Unfortunately the coaches in the KHSD don't have the luxury of negotiating their pay/contract. Personally I think, if in fact it's true what has been said here, its a extremely smart move to negotiate pay. Its the job of the people that hire to get the most for the least amount of pay, thats just business, its the person's responsibility to get as much compensation as possible. Here's a scenario, lets say the coach takes the job, leaves his current job, and in x many seasons he is fired. Then what will he stay on at garces as the dean or be let go from that position as well? Should he not take that into consideration when accepting a job?
Coaches know the amount of time required of them going in, Well maybe except this selection because he's NEVER be an HC higher than a FROSH level. I'm sure the chosen one knew the parameters of this job too. Well several days have gone by and no word from the boys on the hill. I didn't know they were hiring a man of such great football prowess who could come in and work his own deal. Must have a good coaching pedigree....NO. Has some championships in his pocket.....NO. Proven track record of loyalty and a clean criminal record...NO. Well I'm all out of reasons why this guy should not only be the HC of a Varsity program going into a very difficult schedule, but negotiating his contract. He's going to be gone in two years anyway just look at his past? I'd like to see those kids faces and the parents faces when TA has his first players/parents meeting when he tells them they must "Buy In" and play their butts off for their new and loyal HC and Garces. Then I want to see TA's face when the kids tell them they'll "think about". Meanwhile more time has passed and the program gets further behind. Way for TA to lead by example for the betterment of they school and the program. Stop having "it's all about" attitude and see how good of a coach you really are. Win some championships, show some loyalty then you can talk about compensation. For a coach who hasn't coached a single down on the Varsity level as a HC it has gotten beyond ridiculous. I don't see how the Board has allowed this to happen. THIS IS THE NEW DIRECTION GARCES WANTED TO GO. TA is making a mockery of the board and this whole process. The kids and parents of Garces deserve better.
look a first time poster and he comes on to bash and gripe about the "choice" that garces made. Rnc its seems your upset because you didn't get your way so you come on here to bash. You aren't very astute, why would some one negotiate after the fact? That's just dumb. Seems to me that he does know how much time it takes and that is why he wants adequate compensation. Why would a person not "work his own deal"; apparently you're one to accept what you're given regardless of your time you must not value yourself or time very much or you're just not smart enough to think ahead. I'm really not shocked at how dumb the people are that don't understand why an individual would make a counter offer or not jump on the first offer made. I understand that you're feelings are hurt because you or your bud didn't get the job and you feel that an under-qualified guy did so you have to find something to bash, and because you're a moron that would be thrilled with the job regardless of the pay. If I was a garces supporter, I'd be happy to know that the guy hired or offered the job has enough foresight to think ahead, it would tell me he prepares and plans ahead, but most of you are too stupid to think like that because you're lambs, and stupid lambs at that.
Personally, I'm glad that all the garces folks are worked up over this and you're coming unraveled.
Ted, you are a big enough moron to think he is a first time poster. He is at least 6 people on this blog. :)- :shock: :shy:
Quote from: TeddyKGB on March 31, 2014, 08:29:50 AM
My testosterone level needs no boost, it's fine just like it is...izne on the other hand...
That's me on the left.
(http://cdn4.sci-news.com/images/2013/09/image_1418-testosterone.jpg)
Quote from: Whoson1st on April 01, 2014, 08:05:47 AM
Ted, you are a big enough moron to think he is a first time poster. He is at least 6 people on this blog. :)- :shock: :shy:
there is no doubt in my mind that this "new guy" is not new at all....
True all high school coaches in the KHSD get the same pay (6% of their base salary), but schools can do things to entice them. A favorable teaching schedule, zero period wt lifting, independent study, teaching through their prep (adds about 15%), summer school (10%). The best football schools out there know this, and are sure their HC (and top assistants) get some of these perks, because they know the 6% is about $1.15 an hour for the time these guys put in.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 01, 2014, 07:48:35 AM
look a first time poster and he comes on to bash and gripe about the "choice" that garces made. Rnc its seems your upset because you didn't get your way so you come on here to bash. You aren't very astute, why would some one negotiate after the fact? That's just dumb. Seems to me that he does know how much time it takes and that is why he wants adequate compensation. Why would a person not "work his own deal"; apparently you're one to accept what you're given regardless of your time you must not value yourself or time very much or you're just not smart enough to think ahead. I'm really not shocked at how dumb the people are that don't understand why an individual would make a counter offer or not jump on the first offer made. I understand that you're feelings are hurt because you or your bud didn't get the job and you feel that an under-qualified guy did so you have to find something to bash, and because you're a moron that would be thrilled with the job regardless of the pay. If I was a garces supporter, I'd be happy to know that the guy hired or offered the job has enough foresight to think ahead, it would tell me he prepares and plans ahead, but most of you are too stupid to think like that because you're lambs, and stupid lambs at that.
Personally, I'm glad that all the garces folks are worked up over this and you're coming unraveled.
It's amazing how when someone else express their opinion and it's different from yours, how their way of thinking is not very astute, dumb, stupid etc. then you resort to personalizing the situation by name calling (I.e. "You're a moron"). This calls into question your level of intelligence and ability to debate like an adult. Simply agree to disagree and move on, rather than acting like a child and that just pouts and takes his ball home. That's what's great about this site, PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS even when it differes from the self appointed all knowing about all local sports TKGB!!!!!!
Ok now let's see how TED replies because I know he can't resist because he always has to have the last word on everything to show how much smarter he is than everyone else--oh ya I have been a longtime reader of this site.
let me get this straight: you come on here you bash TA, you call into question his qualification as a coach, in fact you go so far as to mention a criminal record and you think that is "expressing an opinion" and now your panties are in a bunch because I called you a moron? You have no answer for the statement I made about a guy negotiating compensation that he sees fit, you never address that instead you get defense and try to redirect the conversation to "you can't debate like an adult", Well, you debate like a woman. You can question my intelligence all you want, I question if you have a Y chromosome. I don't understand, you say that we can express our opinion, my opinion is that you are a moron, whats the problem?
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 03, 2014, 01:42:30 PM
I don't understand, you say that we can express our opinion, my opinion is that you are a moron, whats the problem?
Man..., that's exactly what you said to that sheriff's deputy outside of Henderson a couple of years ago.
izne if I recall that's the same trip you chanted "LIBERTAD...LIBERTAD..." all the way out the door when bouncer threw you over his shoulder and carried you out of Cheetahs
IMO.....Obviously negotiating is very common. A majority of us have done so at some point in our lives. You are naive if you think we don't get this point. But I think in this case the contract should have been more incentive based than a flat salary is all. Does a first time coach with limited varsity experience here in Bako garner a 6 figure salary? Because That's what we are talking about here.
Quote from: izne1home on April 03, 2014, 02:30:34 PM
Man..., that's exactly what you said to that sheriff's deputy outside of Henderson a couple of years ago.
True story... izne snapped this photo during the exchange of opinions... not what you could call a "selfie" but very revealing non the less.
Teddy, would you care to explain the exact nature of this incident?
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LD_Ah5tLKV8/TIAEpmvXndI/AAAAAAAAGYY/uAEUjBZkusc/s1600/Frederic_von_Anhalt_25.hpg.jpg)
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 03, 2014, 02:38:20 PM
izne if I recall that's the same trip you chanted "LIBERTAD...LIBERTAD..." all the way out the door when bouncer threw you over his shoulder and carried you out of Cheetahs
That was the one. We were on our way to the Shady Lady Ranch in Boulder City. You were a little cranky because you took your Viagra too soon.
Quote from: BRONCO2015 on April 03, 2014, 03:37:11 PM
True story... izne snapped this photo during the exchange of opinions... not what you could call a "selfie" but very revealing non the less.
Teddy, would you care to explain the exact nature of this incident?
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LD_Ah5tLKV8/TIAEpmvXndI/AAAAAAAAGYY/uAEUjBZkusc/s1600/Frederic_von_Anhalt_25.hpg.jpg)
Ted can get a little excited and over-indulge with the male performance enhancers. We just handcuff him to the steering wheel until it wears off and the all-safe horn blasts.
Quote from: BRONCO2015 on April 03, 2014, 03:37:11 PM
True story... izne snapped this photo during the exchange of opinions... not what you could call a "selfie" but very revealing non the less.
Teddy, would you care to explain the exact nature of this incident?
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LD_Ah5tLKV8/TIAEpmvXndI/AAAAAAAAGYY/uAEUjBZkusc/s1600/Frederic_von_Anhalt_25.hpg.jpg)
My guess was Teddy argued that he uses Viagra as a "Steering skills enhancement" supplement.
"Officer, I am completely capable of maintaining control of the steering wheel and this vehicle, while holdin' a beer in each hand, you moron."
intheknow, have you ever negotiated successfully with anyone, and I'm not talking about skanks on Union Ave? I understand that you don't like the choice that the people at garces picked, personally I'm unhappy that they let maples go because I wanted him to really destroy that program, but I veer off topic. You latch on to the most insignificant things to critic. Why would you not ask for a more than you expect them to say yes to. When you give a counter, I trust you do understand that the alleged 6 fig request is a counter, you don't start at what you will settle for. I understand your and other garces supporters concerns, but to criticize that a guy is asking for the most money possible is just silly and petty. Was he the best candidate for the job, I have no idea because I don't know who all really applied other than what I read on here. I don't know what the commite and garces was looking for in a coach, so again I can't comment. If the what was posted that the guy from St Bonny applied, then I would like to know what exactly was the criteria that they looked for that made TA more qualified. That's what I would be asking if I was a garces supporter.
In my defense, there is no "suggested dosage" for Viagra and no where does it state don't mix with alcohol and I was under the impression that Viagra was like other meds and you should take every 3 to 4 hours. I was not arrested, apparently I stumbled onto a loop hole in the Nevada vehicular code. No where does it state that you must use your hands to steer the car, so if it's not a law stating you can't do it, it is not against illegal to do it! (See izne I pay attention when you talk)
Quote from: BRONCO2015 on April 03, 2014, 03:37:11 PM
Teddy, would you care to explain the exact nature of this incident?
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LD_Ah5tLKV8/TIAEpmvXndI/AAAAAAAAGYY/uAEUjBZkusc/s1600/Frederic_von_Anhalt_25.hpg.jpg)
HOLY SH!!!.... Teddy is married to Zsa Zsa Gabor???!!!! The Ferrari stallion on the hat gave it away...
http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/30/prince-von-a-hole-naked-in-his-rolls/ (http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/30/prince-von-a-hole-naked-in-his-rolls/)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/28/AR2007072800500.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/28/AR2007072800500.html)
I swear going to Vegas with izne and the CW boosters is a double edged sword: on the one hand you are gonna party like rock stars but for their own amusement they will let you get pissdrunk and convince you that marrying the chick as drunk as you in a Star Wars themed ceremony performed by an Elvis impersonator is a gran idea. I'm still convinced that izne ruffies me everytime just to see what he can talk me into doing
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 03, 2014, 05:06:43 PM
I swear going to Vegas with izne and the CW boosters is a double edged sword: on the one hand you are gonna party like rock stars but for their own amusement they will let you get pissdrunk and convince you that marrying the chick as drunk as you in a Star Wars themed ceremony performed by an Elvis impersonator is a gran idea. I'm still convinced that izne ruffies me everytime just to see what he can talk me into doing
The best part is that you just keep coming back. We're just going to keep pushing until we hear you say "no..., I will not do that."
We got close one time with that passed out wino, but you came through like a champ.
well, I guess in all fairness I deserve some of it...after all the CW Boosters are footing the bill and I'm either wearing the "BRING BACK MARTY" shirt or my Navy Blue "SUPER PETE" T shirts
Quote from: coachintheknow on April 03, 2014, 02:52:14 PM
IMO.....Obviously negotiating is very common. A majority of us have done so at some point in our lives. You are naive if you think we don't get this point. But I think in this case the contract should have been more incentive based than a flat salary is all. Does a first time coach with limited varsity experience here in Bako garner a 6 figure salary? Because That's what we are talking about here.
In this case a mid-six figure number is appropriate :u: BTW; negotiating and negotiating successfully are two entirely different skill sets ;)
Whoever it is they need to get the show on the road. Reach a deal and be done with all this smack talking. I've never heard so much talking trash about a coach hasn't even set foot on campus yet as the head varsity coach. No wonder why he's negotiating. If I had to deal with some of you so called supporters I'd ask for more as well. Smart! Too many fake supporters. You seem like the type that would follow this coach around as a police imposter to play "gotcha coach" with a breathalyzer test.
Quote from: GoldenHawksFootball on April 03, 2014, 11:25:44 PM
Whoever it is they need to get the show on the road. Reach a deal and be done with all this smack talking. I've never heard so much talking trash about a coach hasn't even set foot on campus yet as the head varsity coach. No wonder why he's negotiating. If I had to deal with some of you so called supporters I'd ask for more as well. Smart! Too many fake supporters. You seem like the type that would follow this coach around as a police imposter to play "gotcha coach" with a breathalyzer test.
Be careful posting after you've been cocktailing, you can't pull it back :shy:
my fingers are crossed that garces and maples reconciled and he is brought back for the 3rd time a la Martin-Steinbrenner saga!
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 04, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
my fingers are crossed that garces and maples reconciled and he is brought back for the 3rd time a la Martin-Steinbrenner saga!
maples is good for business :u: particularly on this site.
Funny, funny stuff. If this came from anybody else but you, a pencil necked geek hiding his identity behind his awe inspiring powerful computer I would have my feelings hurt. But from a turd like you that makes outlandish statements with no identity just kind of makes me feel sorry for the lame individual that you are. Man I've taken your crap for years and it finally feels good to respond. If you are any kind of man, since we know how you feel about women, stand behind your comments with who you are and quit hiding behind your computer! :D
HAHAHAHAHA...my computer is really not all that awe inspiring, maybe I need to upgrade.
Quote from: Coachemup on April 04, 2014, 09:50:39 AM
Funny, funny stuff. If this came from anybody else but you, a pencil necked geek hiding his identity behind his awe inspiring powerful computer I would have my feelings hurt. But from a turd like you that makes outlandish statements with no identity just kind of makes me feel sorry for the lame individual that you are. Man I've taken your crap for years and it finally feels good to respond. If you are any kind of man, since we know how you feel about women, stand behind your comments with who you are and quit hiding behind your computer! :D
Well TKGB- here's your chance put up or STHFU!!! It's been thrown out there.
Oh look who's back, can you answer a simple question now? Wasn't it you that questioned my intelligence and now you use profanity? HAHAHAHA, you make me laugh...
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 04, 2014, 01:37:11 PM
Oh look who's back, can you answer a simple question now? Wasn't it you that questioned my intelligence and now you use profanity? HAHAHAHA, you make me laugh...
Apparently that all a person of your intelligence understands. Anyway, stop dancing around the issue Coach is waiting...so am I.
HAHAHA...
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 04, 2014, 01:44:25 PM
HAHAHA...
Just as I thought. You should change your screen name, in fact I am going to refer to you as my screen name for you: from now on your Delta Tau Chi is- Martha Stewart because all you do is stir thing up.
Always wondered why you chose to use a screen name whose character loses in the end. Is that how you see yourself Martha as a loser?
Another feeble attempt at humor and contumely...
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 04, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
Another feeble attempt at humor and contumely...
Another feeble attempt at avoiding answering Coach Maples' post... :d:
Quote from: Rnc1925 on April 04, 2014, 01:51:23 PM
Just as I thought. You should change your screen name, in fact I am going to refer to you as my screen name for you: from now on your Delta Tau Chi is- Martha Stewart because all you do is stir thing up.
Always wondered why you chose to use a screen name whose character loses in the end. Is that how you see yourself Martha as a loser?
Some are better at changing screen names than others eh rnc. Or??? Should I say???? :D :D :D.
Tkgb is a prick with ears but he is consistent.
Quote from: Whoson1st on April 04, 2014, 03:31:46 PM
Tkgb is a prick with ears but he is consistent.
I'll accept that as a quasi compliment .
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 04, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
Another feeble attempt at humor and contumely...
I could look it up but what does that last word mean :huh:
Quote from: Whoson1st on April 04, 2014, 06:56:20 PM
I could look it up but what does that last word mean :huh:
Definition of contumely (n)
Bing Dictionary
con·tume·ly[ kən tóoməlee ]
contempt: insulting, scornful, or contemptuous language or treatment
derisive remark: an openly insulting, scornful, or contemptuous remark
I'm getting good at this :D
Have they officially hired the Frosh Coach for more then 100,000 dollars a year yet ??? Or are they going to go "walk-On Program" again ???? I'm not from around B-Town & am just trying to understand what the heck is going on by reading the rants of you Garces "fans" ????
Finally, we have a true standoff! Here's a chance for Teddy to come face to face with the Honorable man he has been talking smack about all these years. No more B.S. From you Teddy. Either air your grievance or shut up. The gauntlet has been thrown at your feet. Coach Maples has the guts to reveal his true thoughts. He has stepped up to the plate and revealed his true identity. It's time you stopped hiding behind your anonymous screen name and bring it! Let's see if you can back all the junk you have been spewing all these years. Why don't you come clean with all of the posters on this cite and tell everyone why you have such hatred for Maples and his abilities and for the Garces community as a whole? Or are you the gutless coward I have always assumed? Go ahead, speak your feeble mind, now is your chance!
I must be missing something :huh:
Coach revealed himself months ago, now if Teddy missed that, then that would be funny.
But Maple vs Teddy on a HS site, just plain dumb.
Ski I always suspects that you weren't very bright, you just confirmed what I always suspected. I have never once said I "hate" anyone, I've been clear that I hate garces. Having an opinion of a person and their abilities and hating said person is very different, or can you not make that distinction. And if you think that some half wit like you can some how manipulate me you are an even bigger fool than I originally suspected, what possibly made you think that being challenged by anyone like you or anyone else would make me do anything? Thanks for the laugh.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 05, 2014, 08:28:30 AM
Ski I always suspects that you weren't very bright, you just confirmed what I always suspected. I have never once said I "hate" anyone, I've been clear that I hate garces. Having an opinion of a person and their abilities and hating said person is very different, or can you not make that distinction. And if you think that some half wit like you can some how manipulate me you are an even bigger fool than I originally suspected, what possibly made you think that being challenged by anyone like you or anyone else would make me do anything? Thanks for the laugh.
Ski, be flattered. You got a whole paragraph! I usually get the "Oh yeah....your a girl!" Had is coffee today! :D
Quote from: TeddyKGB on April 05, 2014, 08:28:30 AM
Ski I always suspects that you weren't very bright, you just confirmed what I always suspected. I have never once said I "hate" anyone, I've been clear that I hate garces. Having an opinion of a person and their abilities and hating said person is very different, or can you not make that distinction. And if you think that some half wit like you can some how manipulate me you are an even bigger fool than I originally suspected, what possibly made you think that being challenged by anyone like you or anyone else would make me do anything? Thanks for the laugh.
That's what I thought Teddy, you're nothing but a coward. Nice attempt at distinction . . . "I don't hate anyone but I hate Garces" what the heck is that? You hate an inanimate object? I guess that's a reflection of your emotional attachments in life. You are certainly entitled to your sophomoric opinion, but you should at least be man enough to back it up with facts and reason. It's called persuasive reasoning. I know you must have taken at least one course on this topic in your immense educational pursuits.
Duck, weave and side-step. Anything but answer the challenge. Speaks volumes about your character.
CoachSki,
Teddy is nothing but a virulent miscreant and misogynist. We all know he has mommy issues as well as a major inferiority complex. His meaningless drivel and moronic buffoonery should be ignored for the incompetent garbage it is.
You guys make to much over Ted. If he has to drop his drawers and bare his fanny than let's all do it. I too would like to know EXACTLY why tkgb hates Garces because it might be the same reason I am so frustrated with the way the school has been run in the past. I feel the same as teddy dip stick. Garces is fubar. I loved maples, teddy is not. So fond of him. It might be that the little prick with ears is as frustrated as much as I/we are by the firing of a coach with a 36 and 3 record in 3 years and replacing him with a possibly good head coach???? What was that varsity record?
Ted , before you think you and I are going to start taking long hot showers together remember this,,,,, I get your hate for Garces. I did.not hate obama 6 years ago but now as I look for new coverage I hate him .. I have always hated those who voted for him . Garces is so aggravating. Maples is a good cat...stood that anal retentive bunch of green weenies on the ears. They are still reeling over the maple storms. You should give him a gift certificate or a cake. Carpel tunnel is kicking in, time for a cocktail.
Quote from: Neutered_Ram on April 05, 2014, 01:47:48 PM
CoachSki,
Teddy is nothing but a virulent miscreant and misogynist. We all know he has mommy issues as well as a major inferiority complex. His meaningless drivel and moronic buffoonery should be ignored for the incompetent garbage it is.
Where's the press release you spoke of :huh: maybe your getting some bad info.
Delay in getting contract signed/approved by school and Diocese. Will be announced middle of next week. Typical Garces administrative dysfunction.
Wrong again. Just announced by mass email announcement. New coach is Tim Antongiovanni. No surprise there. Good luck coach.
We'll if you are correct, his V record is 0/0/0. :)-
A Message from the Office of the President
Mr. John L. Fanucchi '68
I am excited to announce that Tim Antongiovanni will be assuming the position of Director of Facilities at Garces Memorial, along with assuming the position of Head Varsity Football Coach.
As the Director of Facilities, he brings valuable knowledge and experience gained when he held a similar position for St. Francis of Assisi Parish Church and School. As a football coach, his knowledge and experience gained while playing and coaching in various programs and at various levels are invaluable to the growth and direction of the program.
As a 1992 graduate of Garces Memorial, Tim has a keen understanding of the history and traditions of Garces Memorial in the community. He understands and embraces the importance and value of Catholic schools and Catholic education. His passion, commitment, professionalism, and drive will serve our school, our students and families, and the entire Garces Memorial High School community well.
So they hired him to be the Head Football Coach & Head Janitor ???? And if an earlier post is correct - the highest paid janitor in this world !!??! :D
Quote from: Bronco on April 05, 2014, 05:13:42 PM
So they hired him to be the Head Football Coach & Head Janitor ???? And if an earlier post is correct - the highest paid janitor in this world !!??! :D
Jealousy is no way to go through life son : :cry:
Quote from: tailgator on April 05, 2014, 10:54:01 PM
Jealousy is no way to go through life son : :cry:
I'm not jealous !! I think that is a heck of a job though :u: It looks like Garces is getting serious about running a Full Time Football Program & that they are willing to pay for it !! :u:
Quote from: tailgator on April 05, 2014, 10:54:01 PM
Jealousy is no way to go through life son : :cry:
Did you just call Bronco 'son'?
Quote from: izne1home on April 06, 2014, 10:17:03 AM
Did you just call Bronco 'son'?
I'm speechless.... :huh:
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Quote from: izne1home on April 06, 2014, 10:17:03 AM
Did you just call Bronco 'son'?
Don't worry about it - we need to cut these Garces folks a little slack - They've been going through some tough times these past 5 months :D And a few might even still be :shock:
So, let's recap.
Teddy made a fool of himself once again, and Tailgator is making a move to take over Teddy's lead in that department. This place is amazing. :cry:
Quote from: izne1home on April 06, 2014, 10:17:03 AM
Did you just call Bronco 'son'?
Did Bronco just call our new HC a "janitor"?? :shock:
Quote from: tailgator on April 06, 2014, 02:32:32 PM
Did Bronco just call our new HC a "janitor"?? :shock:
Excuse me - "Head of Facilities" :D : You read me wrong Tailgate, I think it's a great plan - BIG $$$ and no teaching load - 100% Football :u: That's Garces using the advantage they have of being a private school (much like the Catholic Schools in the southern section) to "up the ante" right when they are going to need too :u:
Quote from: Bronco on April 06, 2014, 01:26:01 PM
Don't worry about it - we need to cut these Garces folks a little slack - They've been going through some tough times these past 5 months :D And a few might even still be :shock:
The "Garces folks" are not going through "tough times"; simply making some changes, happens all the time. The true supporters are and always will be there as witnessed Saturday night at the HMC fundraiser; sold-out and raised
$$$$BANK$$$$ for the program :u: Since the Garces institution is so intriguing to the rest of you, you feel the need to take your cheap shots from the cheap seats. Please keep it coming; it's
cheap entertainment for us :D
Quote from: tailgator on April 07, 2014, 11:47:44 AM
Since the Garces institution is so intriguing to the rest of you, you feel the need to take your cheap shots from the cheap seats. Please keep it coming; it's cheap entertainment for us :D
In that case... how's that running game looking this year? ;)
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We have a head coach. Now we will see if he is smart enough to get Dt, Shipp, Frank, Eric and Chris to buy in if so 8-2 and a shot at D2 finals. It worked for Roberts, it worked for Maples, it is his only chance we have at this very late stage. If not looking at 2-8 the next 2 seasons.
Quote from: GOALPOST on April 07, 2014, 05:37:34 PM
We have a head coach. Now we will see if he is smart enough to get Dt, Shipp, Frank, Eric and Chris to buy in if so 8-2 and a shot at D2 finals. It worked for Roberts, it worked for Maples, it is his only chance we have at this very late stage. If not looking at 2-8 the next 2 seasons.
What if TA lands 50% of the coaches you mention will they finish 5-5; or 30%, 4-6, it's great to know how the season's gonn'a end up before it ever begins up:huh:
Quote from: GOALPOST on April 07, 2014, 05:37:34 PM
We have a head coach. Now we will see if he is smart enough to get Dt, Shipp, Frank, Eric and Chris to buy in if so 8-2 and a shot at D2 finals. It worked for Roberts, it worked for Maples, it is his only chance we have at this very late stage. If not looking at 2-8 the next 2 seasons.
If those guys are so important to the success of the Program maybe they should get some of the big $$$$ that the Tail is so proud of !!??!! :shock: OR - have another one of your big $$$ events to try to buy there help for the anointed one 8)
Quote from: GOALPOST on April 07, 2014, 05:37:34 PM
We have a head coach. Now we will see if he is smart enough to get Dt, Shipp, Frank, Eric and Chris to buy in if so 8-2 and a shot at D2 finals. It worked for Roberts, it worked for Maples, it is his only chance we have at this very late stage. If not looking at 2-8 the next 2 seasons.
Dayamn.... Four months to find a coach & all that matters at Garces is keeping those guys satisfied?
Quote from: GOALPOST on April 07, 2014, 05:37:34 PM
We have a head coach. Now we will see if he is smart enough to get Dt, Shipp, Frank, Eric and Chris to buy in if so 8-2 and a shot at D2 finals. It worked for Roberts, it worked for Maples, it is his only chance we have at this very late stage. If not looking at 2-8 the next 2 seasons.
There was a football with meeting with the players in the Gym at lunch today. The new Coach was there to meet with the kids, and he had 2 faces very familiar to the recent Garces football success with him, Chris Shipp and Eric Duncan.
Quote from: Van Smack on April 07, 2014, 10:18:40 PM
There was a football with meeting with the players in the Gym at lunch today. The new Coach was there to meet with the kids, and he had 2 faces very familiar to the recent Garces football success with him, Chris Shipp and Eric Duncan.
WOW....Breaking news. that happened two days ago, we'll look to you for cutting edge info :)-
Quote from: Van Smack on April 07, 2014, 10:18:40 PM
There was a football with meeting with the players in the Gym at lunch today. The new Coach was there to meet with the kids, and he had 2 faces very familiar to the recent Garces football success with him, Chris Shipp and Eric Duncan.
That's a god start. :u: Tim is probably going to focus on offense , Chris Shipp does a great job with the defense.
Quote from: tailgator on April 07, 2014, 10:44:58 PM
WOW....Breaking news. that happened two days ago, we'll look to you for cutting edge info :)-
Actually that happened yesterday at lunch at the school, not 2 days ago SA.
Quote from: Van Smack on April 08, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
Actually that happened yesterday at lunch at the school, not 2 days ago SA.
We were aware of the arrangement over the weekend prior to the lunch announcement.
Quote from: tailgator on April 08, 2014, 01:47:12 PM
We were aware of the arrangement over the weekend prior to the lunch announcement.
Define "we", because I'm sure some on this board didn't know this.
Quote from: Van Smack on April 08, 2014, 01:58:10 PM
Define "we", because I'm sure some on this board didn't know this.
It was news to me Van Smack - but I'm sure I'm not a member of the Garces "we crowd" 8) Sounds like it's coming together just fine for the Rams now :u: Good Luck !!
Hey Gator, you've only made a fool of yourself to a small degree so far. Stop while you're only this far behind, please.
Good Luck to the Rams this year. :u: