Garces Head Football Coach Jim Maples has been fired due to illegal recruiting. More details to come
He's been placed on Admin leave pending investigation....when Garces makes a public statement we'll all know the reasons... BIG SKIN
Quote from: Word2thewise on July 29, 2013, 01:19:34 PM
Garces Head Football Coach Jim Maples has been fired due to illegal recruiting. More details to come
Oh brother... I can't wait for "more details". How can a private high school illegally recruit?
Quote from: mw1 on July 29, 2013, 01:47:42 PM
How can a private high school illegally recruit?
maybe he promised to allow kids to forgo sunday mass to watch film? :shy:
I think this will be another..."I know, but can's say" thing.
Where's CoachSki when you need him?
DPBronco, help Ski get back in here.
Wow! You mean Garces actually recruits? Call Ripley's! I thought kids went there for the free ipads and cool uniforms.
I knew it. He recruited back at east high
Quote from: GoldenHawksFootball on July 29, 2013, 02:12:44 PM
Wow! You mean Garces actually recruits? Call Ripley's! I thought kids went there for the free ipads and cool uniforms.
Of course they recruit...all private schools do...if they don't they can't keep their doors open.....the question is are they recruiting student/athletes appropriately?
Quote from: Hsfootballfan27 on July 29, 2013, 02:40:46 PM
I knew it. He recruited back at east high
If you ain't cheatin'... you ain't trying.
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 29, 2013, 02:41:53 PM
Of course they recruit...all private schools do...if they don't they can't keep their doors open.....the question is are they recruiting student/athletes appropriately?
:u: :u:
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 29, 2013, 02:41:53 PM
Of course they recruit...all private schools do...if they don't they can't keep their doors open.....the question is are they recruiting student/athletes appropriately?
found a rendering of Crichlow informing Garces of violations (allegedly)....
(http://glennpackiam.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5508185978833017d3d280332970c-500wi)
Quote from: GoldenHawksFootball on July 29, 2013, 02:12:44 PM
Wow! You mean Garces actually recruits? Call Ripley's! I thought kids went there for the free ipads and cool uniforms.
Last year, there was a big to-do down in Oaks Christian regarding their QB: "Oaks Christian School's starting quarterback says he was contacted by one of the high school's assistant coaches when he was playing football in the eighth grade, which would be a violation of CIF rules."
They ALL do it... it is just that some are sneakier than others... of course, Oaks Christian denied the whole thing.. now that QB is being pursued by Alabama, Oregon, and Notre Dame. I guess if you are going to play fast and loose with the rules, make sure it is going to be worth it. Then, tell the kid to not tell a reporter that you were contacted in 8th grade.... DOH!!
Quote from: SCrubjay on July 29, 2013, 02:59:56 PM
found a rendering of Crichlow informing Garces of violations (allegedly)....
(http://glennpackiam.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5508185978833017d3d280332970c-500wi)
:u: :u: :u: :u:
Quote from: Hsfootballfan27 on July 29, 2013, 02:40:46 PM
I knew it. He recruited back at east high
and what exactly was the draw to get kids to east? Play for a team with a winning tradition..HAHAHA sorry I had to laugh at that. Scholarships? Why would a kid go to east when the could have transfered to Bakersfield High?
Quote from: Hsfootballfan27 on July 29, 2013, 03:18:16 PM
I really had a feeling he was recruiting football players from around town. Take a look at East high as soon as Maples took over for Garces. East football team was down to like 23 kids if that.
So we know for a fact that Coach has been fired for what you all are accusing him of?
Wow, things have changed here.
Quote from: SCrubjay on July 29, 2013, 02:59:56 PM
found a rendering of Crichlow informing Garces of violations (allegedly)....
(http://glennpackiam.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5508185978833017d3d280332970c-500wi)
LOL Now that's funny right there! :D Best pic in months! :u:
So coach is working on helping student athletes attend a top college prep school in the area and what happens to him? Shame on you CIF and anyone else involved in tossing out anyone that helps kids. Go GARCES
goalpost, that's as stupid a comment. He wasn't trying to help anyone but himself and his ego. I'm just disappointed because he won't be able to ruin garces and run that program into ruins like I'd like to see it.
QuoteOf course they recruit...all private schools do...if they don't they can't keep their doors open.....the question is are they recruiting student/athletes appropriately?
My comments weren't serious! We all know that kids don't go there for the cool unis and free ipads. I've always laughed at the people that say Garces and other private schools do not recruit and they are innocent even if they do so appropriately. And there's quite a few posters on here who claim they don't recruit and tons of supporters out there who carry that belief as well. We all know it's false.
I'd like to get some insight from Irish Eyes, Coach Ski, and DLion. DLion has been missing.
Teddy is it possible while helping his ego a few get to attend GARCES that normally would not? That to me helps kids and that is far from stupid. Please don't be disappointed because no one will ever ruin GARCES. Go Rams
So you're ok with rule breaking because it's "for the kids"...where have I heard that before? I don't care if garces isn't ruined, but BCHS is working on making sure they aren't the only place where spoiled kids whose parents want to mascaraed their elitist attitudes behind religious schooling can send their kids*...and as long as the Drillers are around garces will always be 2nd fiddle at best!
*doesn't apply too all, Dlion being one of those.
Yo Tedster.....
Do you foam at the mouth when you go on rants like that.....
I'm just ask'n.... :cry:
So, does this mean that Sanger is the 2012 D2 champ? :u: And you guys gave me a hard time for all the nasty stuff I said about them last year......HA- They are cheaters! But boy, could they play football.
I don't foam at the mouth but I have gone thru more than one keyboard.
A BHS guy arguing with a Garces guy about recruiting is classic! LMAO....like Tim Tebow and Mante Tao accusing the other of not liking women...
Quote from: TeddyKGB on July 29, 2013, 09:28:03 PM
I don't foam at the mouth but I have gone thru more than one keyboard.
Where does the dislike come from? It's palpable.
When is the last time a Bakerfield coach had hard evidence against him that he did something illegal. Or when was the last time action was taken against a BHS coach for any wrong doing? If kids want to play or participate at BHS that's not the coaches fault that kids want to be at the best school with the best tradition with the best shot at a title.
Here are some tweets from Zach Ewing tonight:
"Official word from Garces just came: Jim Maples is on paid administrative leave but has NOT been dismissed."
"No comment from Garces on whether this action was related to race-related problem the school mentioned last week, nor on acting head coach"
"Maples led Garces to a 12-1 season and Division II section title last year in his first season as Rams head coach. Practice started today."
So take that as you want.
Practiced started today?
Pads?
Quote from: CWClassof2007 on July 29, 2013, 10:38:19 PM
Here are some tweets from Zach Ewing tonight:
"Official word from Garces just came: Jim Maples is on paid administrative leave but has NOT been dismissed."
"No comment from Garces on whether this action was related to race-related problem the school mentioned last week, nor on acting head coach"
"Maples led Garces to a 12-1 season and Division II section title last year in his first season as Rams head coach. Practice started today."
So take that as you want.
Considering the fact that a football coach at a private h.s. being put on "paid administrative leave" for "allegedly" using "illegal" recruiting practices seems like somewhat of a rarity, it would be hard to come to any conclusion other than it has to do with the racial slur issue. This being especially true since the incident happened at a "summer sports practice." Granted, it could have been summer league basketball or something like that, but my money is on admin. pulling some CYA and damage control by placing Maples on leave until this thing dies down and the parent gets what they want which is the kid dropping N - Bombs gone. Which is fine with me.
As much as I hate to say it Teddy, Maples probably didn't do anything wrong and the altercation just happened to take place during a football workout. I can see the leave issuance if Maples witnessed the incident and then did nothing about it, but my gut tells me that probably didn't happen.
Quote from: Roughneck005 on July 29, 2013, 11:55:28 PM
Considering the fact that a football coach at a private h.s. being put on "paid administrative leave" for "allegedly" using "illegal" recruiting practices seems like somewhat of a rarity, it would be hard to come to any conclusion other than it has to do with the racial slur issue. This being especially true since the incident happened at a "summer sports practice." Granted, it could have been summer league basketball or something like that, but my money is on admin. pulling some CYA and damage control by placing Maples on leave until this thing dies down and the parent gets what they want which is the kid dropping N - Bombs gone. Which is fine with me.
As much as I hate to say it Teddy, Maples probably didn't do anything wrong and the altercation just happened to take place during a football workout. I can see the leave issuance if Maples witnessed the incident and then did nothing about it, but my gut tells me that probably didn't happen.
Thank you....guessing you are right and there is more to this than anyone knows at this point....
Rough I hope you're right and he is not let go, because I don't want to read the garces faithful like Ski go on about what a injustice & travesty it is and how he's the greatest thing since sliced bread and the forward pass.
Anyone who has coached in Bakersfield long enough know this was bound to happen. Too bad things have to get bad before they get better. Now they just have to put the AD on paid leave and get rid of Bears and the Garces world will be right again.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on July 29, 2013, 07:59:13 PM
So you're ok with rule breaking because it's "for the kids"...where have I heard that before? I don't care if garces isn't ruined, but BCHS is working on making sure they aren't the only place where spoiled kids whose parents want to mascaraed their elitist attitudes behind rebellious schooling can send their kids*...and as long as the Drillers are around garces will always be 2nd fiddle at best!
*doesn't apply too all, Dlion being one of those.
i resemble that remark!
I knew this would draw dlion out of of the Woolgrower's and Luigi's bars!
When all is said and done it is ... High card holder that wins the pot! Especially at Garces ...
Sitting here in the office with 2 Garces guys and 2 BHS guys , we decided to break out the program for last years VC team and break it down to determine how many kids did not fit into the following categories. (not fitting into these categories might constitute recruitment.)
1. Came in through the Garces G.E.Y.F. feeder team,,,Fighting Irish
2. Came in through Catholic, Christian, or private middle school.
3. Went to public school but 1 or both parents are Garces alumni.
We came up with 1 starter that did transfer to Garces prior to his sophomore yr. and one other kid who did come up through the geyf team but was probably requested to attend.
Now keep in mind, i am speaking to 1 season, 1 team, 2012. Im not saying it applies to past or future seasons.
If Garces ever did recruit to the extent they are accused of it would really change the look of this valley as far as football goes.
I believe what you're saying dlion, I don't buy that Maples actively recruited anyone...that would take extra work and effort 2 qualities that elude his character.
http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/sports/school-house-zach/x1695856423/Garces-places-football-coach-Jim-Maples-on-administrative-leave
Teddy, Question... Sorry let me correct that... Goalpost has a stupid question, what is it you don't like in general, Catholic Education, Private Schools, Garces, Coach Maples, Spoiled kids, elitist attitudes, all of the above?
Just trying to understand what the issue is because you seem to love high school football in general and have great posts that I normally enjoy reading but I am stupid so could be way off. On a side note nothing but respect for BHS the best program in the valley by far. Have no issue being number 2 to them.
Quote from: GOALPOST on July 30, 2013, 02:05:57 PM
Teddy, Question... Sorry let me correct that... Goalpost has a stupid question, what is it you don't like in general, Catholic Education, Private Schools, Garces, Coach Maples, Spoiled kids, elitist attitudes, all of the above?
Just trying to understand what the issue is because you seem to love high school football in general and have great posts that I normally enjoy reading but I am stupid so could be way off. On a side note nothing but respect for BHS the best program in the valley by far. Have no issue being number 2 to them.
GOAL, you had to go "there", huh? If it is enlightenment you seek, you would probably have to hypnotize Teddy to get to the bottom of that one... for the answers just might lie in the subconscious. :sleep: :shock: :shy: :x
I don't think that's a stupid question at all Goal. I do not like Private schools, spoiled kids or elitest attitude...I HATE garces. I do not care for Maples as a coach.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on July 30, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
I don't think that's a stupid question at all Goal. I do not like Private schools, spoiled kids or elitest attitude...I HATE garces. I do not care for Maples as a coach.
Teddy, how do you REALLY feel???? :D :D :D :D :D :D
Pretty much sums it up doesn't it Goal! :)
Gotta love Teddy. Straight shooter. Aims at the nuts... 8)
Now Goal, about your misguided thinking regarding #1 and #2 in the Valley... ;)
Ok Teddy understood. Just remember if a kid wants to play for the best team with the best chance to win a valley title don't blame the coaches. We are square on that one.
Bronco, right on, solid program. you beat us straight up 2 years in a row in valley playoffs. Happy to see you in D1. I will correct my #2 too just the south valley but #1 for schools with 700 students.
Quote from: GOALPOST on July 31, 2013, 06:23:12 AM
Ok Teddy understood. Just remember if a kid wants to play for the best team with the best chance to win a valley title don't blame the coaches. We are square on that one.
Bronco, right on, solid program. you beat us straight up 2 years in a row in valley playoffs. Happy to see you in D1. I will correct my #2 too just the south valley but #1 for schools with 700 students.
All good fun! Gotta support your team! :u:
Good luck this year! Broncos have a target on their back this year. Everyone will bring their "A" game at them. Got along season ahead.
Goal, I have often stated that kids show up at schools and that's not a coaches fault. Kids transfer to schools with traditionally strong programs all the time.
After several conversations with those who DO know what's going on, seems Coach Maples is the scapegoat in a witch hunt. :d:
To bad, really good man.
Hurd, you continue to amaze me...
Quote from: TeddyKGB on July 31, 2013, 02:15:26 PM
Hurd, you continue to amaze me...
That doesn't surprise me. Simple is .....
Why don't you trying doing something constructive for the kids instead of coming here and trying to slit the throat of every coach you think you can? If you had some idea about what you were talking about and had a sense of some sort of equal treatment for all, someone might listen. So far, not so much.
Hurd, you ignorant fool...unlike you I don't have to validate what I do with the "it's for the kids" speech you have made your catch phrase. You have no idea the things I have done or do so don't make assumptions. If I had some idea what I'm talking about? I'm not the one that's been banned because I said things I had no proof of, am I?
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Chew on this for a minute Hurd...where is all the support from the local coaches on here or in the media? Why aren't the parents at garces up at arms to defend this "really good man"? Let's give the benefit of the doubt, the local news reported it last night...lets check back in a week and see exactly what kind of support the local coaching community and garces parents gives to this "scape goat" that's a "really good man"...I mean besides Ski who thinks he's the reincarnation of Lombardi.
Please don't close this topic.
CWClass.... You just want to watch Hurd continue entertaining you!
Anyone on this board who thinks the Drillers haven't recruited over the years are naïve......
hey there old, I see you have taken a break from your no doubt intense game of World Of Warcraft or Madden 14 to shed some light on this subject!
Quote from: TeddyKGB on July 31, 2013, 06:03:17 PM
hey there old, I see you have taken a break from your no doubt intense game of World Of Warcraft or Madden 14 to shed some light on this subject!
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Quote from: old driller on July 31, 2013, 05:39:01 PM
Anyone on this board who thinks the Drillers haven't recruited over the years are naïve......
Same with the Clovis schools.
Quote from: izne1home on July 31, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
Same with the Clovis schools.
Yea, anyone from a Clovis school that doesn't think the Drillers have recuited, is naive, Soitenly... Nyuk, Nyuk... :D
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Hurd...still waiting on that out cry of support and outrage. :huh:
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Jimmy! :u: Jimmy! :u: He's our man! fi he cant do it nobody can, RAH! RAH! RAH! :D
Quote from: dlion on August 01, 2013, 09:13:06 AM
Jimmy! :u: Jimmy! :u: He's our man! fi he cant do it nobody can, RAH! RAH! RAH! :D
Nice....LOL.... :D
Quote from: dlion on August 01, 2013, 09:13:06 AM
Jimmy! :u: Jimmy! :u: He's our man! fi he cant do it nobody can, RAH! RAH! RAH! :D
HAHAHAHA... Theres one vote for... izne snapped this pic right as the Californian broke the story:
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He doesn't look happy to me.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on July 30, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
I don't think that's a stupid question at all Goal. I do not like Private schools, spoiled kids or elitest attitude...I HATE garces. I do not care for Maples as a coach.
Teddy, I think I have discovered your secret identity.... Stan Green? :huh:
nope sorry mw, but if you had paid attention you would know I am not in education, I believe Stan works at the district office.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 01, 2013, 10:39:45 AM
nope sorry mw, but if you had paid attention you would know I am not in education, I believe Stan works at the district office.
I had you pegged as the talent recruiter for Deja Vu.... :)-
I do that as an independent contractor Just
Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 01, 2013, 10:57:54 AM
I do that as an independent contractor Just
I thought it was just community service.
it was community service until izne spoke with the judge...
Save the small talk boyz....this thing is long deep, thick,and wide and its moving fast. In my best BHS ease...this thing is fitzen to bust a move. Teddy, you'll be sad but very entertained because I know you..... you like a good slug fest more than you hate Garces. 8)
Quote from: dlion on August 01, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
this thing is long deep, thick,and wide and its moving fast.
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Quote from: dlion on August 01, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
this thing is long deep, thick,and wide and its moving fast.
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Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 01, 2013, 03:21:46 PM
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You beat me to it.
Quote from: CWClassof2007 on August 01, 2013, 04:29:15 PM
You beat me to it.
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you want a Garces supporter? Well, here is one! Coach Maples has coached my son the last three years and he has taught him a lot more than X's and O's on the football field. He taught my son, and my son's friends, who had the honor of being part of the Valley Championship Team, to be proud of who we are and to stand up to life's challenges. That is what Coach Maples is doing right now, tackling this issue head-on. I have every expectation that he will come out of this latest inquiry successful. When any program becomes successful in this town, everyone wants to knock them down. Some will sink to pathetic levels to bring down a winner. Suggesting coach Maples is a racist or is somehow involved in the bone-headed comments of a summer school student is just ridiculous. BY the way, the reason more supporters have not contributed to this site is because most of them have professional jobs and are too busy supporting their families. We would rather allow the process run its course instead of engaging in speculation and slander. People who hate Garces will always look for the slightest opportunity to attack our kids and our community. Been this way for nearly 60 years and continues to this day. No surprise there. Why don't we all wait to see what the outcome of this latest attack is before casting a stone? :D
Quote from: Redneckgirl on August 01, 2013, 10:21:36 PM
BY the way, the reason more supporters have not contributed to this site is because most of them have professional jobs and are too busy supporting their families.
so you're saying all the contributors on here don't have professional jobs or support their families? i think folks like bigskin, cw2007, and others might disagree. i sure as hell do. i call chevron a professional job and a 60 hour work week that allows my wife to stay home with my 2 little ones supporting my family.
ps, cant wait to read what teddy has for you
Correct me if I'm wrong please.
I was told this site wasn't for speculation like this concerning a mans job and the attack of that person's integrity?
Quote from: taysdad on August 01, 2013, 10:45:29 PM
so you're saying all the contributors on here don't have professional jobs or support their families? i think folks like bigskin, cw2007, and others might disagree. i sure as hell do. i call chevron a professional job and a 60 hour work week that allows my wife to stay home with my 2 little ones supporting my family.
ps, cant wait to read what teddy has for you
Wow.....where did the words "all contributors on here" come from? I was merely responding to KGB's daily "why isn't the media responding?" or "where's the parents or supporters". If you look at my comment and your interpretation....very different. In fact, your timely response supports my position that we "have" jobs and are supporting our families. Just merely pointing out that it's not out of non-support from families or local coaches. Some don't have the time. Also, some are waiting for the outcome before passing judgment.
:)
Quote from: Redneckgirl on August 01, 2013, 11:16:15 PM
Wow.....where did the words "all contributors on here" come from? I was merely responding to KGB's daily "why isn't the media responding?" or "where's the parents or supporters". If you look at my comment and your interpretation....very different. In fact, your timely response supports my position that we "have" jobs and are supporting our families. Just merely pointing out that it's not out of non-support from families or local coaches. Some don't have the time. Also, some are waiting for the outcome before passing judgment.
:)
You want it to go away but you keep flapp'n yer gums...
:d:
Quote from: Redneckgirl on August 01, 2013, 11:16:15 PM
Wow.....where did the words "all contributors on here" come from? I was merely responding to KGB's daily "why isn't the media responding?" or "where's the parents or supporters". If you look at my comment and your interpretation....very different. In fact, your timely response supports my position that we "have" jobs and are supporting our families. Just merely pointing out that it's not out of non-support from families or local coaches. Some don't have the time. Also, some are waiting for the outcome before passing judgment.
:)
People read to match their forgone conclusion....at 1 am hurd should have the pirates eye patch on :D
Quote from: Coach Hurd on August 01, 2013, 10:54:45 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong please.
I was told this site wasn't for speculation like this concerning a mans job and the attack of that person's integrity?
Last time I checked I thought so too :D
I would be a little pissed if this what about me and all the facts are not out yet or the siutation has not run its course. I agree Hurd
Quote from: budha46 on August 02, 2013, 07:21:16 AM
Last time I checked I thought so too :D
I would be a little pissed if this what about me and all the facts are not out yet or the siutation has not run its course. I agree Hurd
Just read through four pages of posts and haven't seen a fact, actually nothing really about what supposedly has transpired....hmmmm....maybe you all have a more than valid point :huh: :huh: ;)
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on August 02, 2013, 08:31:56 AM
Just read through four pages of posts and haven't seen a fact, actually nothing really about what supposedly has transpired....hmmmm....maybe you all have a more than valid point :huh: :huh: ;)
I've read this site for 6 years and haven't seen more than a handful of FACTS! why are we starting now???? :D :D :D
Speculation, innuendo and opinion are what keeps sites like this alive.... BUT that is NOT the same as character attacks and defamation....
I have been a Garces supporter for years. BUT, when they threw Dave F. under the bus and let him go my support for the administration at GHS went with Dave. EVERYONE at the school who played for Jimmy or coached with Jimmy in the 90's knows he is a great guy to hang out with. However, there was a reason he was let go at Garces the 1st time. So, it s no surprise to anyone in "the know" that he has run into trouble so quickly. I do no believe he was directly involved in anything racal. However, I believe he allowed the kids to be undisciplined and does not reflect the mission of the school. I stood in horror on the sideline at the VC game as I would hear the mouths of the boys on the sideline when something would go bad. They would drop f-bombs and no one would do anything about it. Before John F. was castrated, he would have ripped those kids up and down the field on Friday night and Saturday Morning. I am not saying Jimmy is guilty of any wrong doing bc I do not know what are the accusations. BUT I do know his hiring was an embarrassment to the Garces Alum and is reflective of some of the deeper issues going on with the administration. Don't worry though Garces peeps. Change is coming. Those of you in "the know" understand what I am saying.:)
Quote from: Old School on August 02, 2013, 08:38:45 AM
I have been a Garces supporter for years. BUT, when they threw Dave F. under the bus and let him go my support for the administration at GHS went with Dave. EVERYONE at the school who played for Jimmy or coached with Jimmy in the 90's knows he is a great guy to hang out with. However, there was a reason he was let go at Garces the 1st time. So, it s no surprise to anyone in "the know" that he has run into trouble so quickly. I do no believe he was directly involved in anything racal. However, I believe he allowed the kids to be undisciplined and does not reflect the mission of the school. I stood in horror on the sideline at the VC game as I would hear the mouths of the boys on the sideline when something would go bad. They would drop f-bombs and no one would do anything about it. Before John F. was castrated, he would have ripped those kids up and down the field on Friday night and Saturday Morning. I am not saying Jimmy is guilty of any wrong doing bc I do not know what are the accusations. BUT I do know his hiring was an embarrassment to the Garces Alum and is reflective of some of the deeper issues going on with the administration. Don't worry though Garces peeps. Change is coming. Those of you in "the know" understand what I am saying.:)
I understand what your saying...
Redneckgirl, I read your first post this morning and have been giving it some thought as to how to respond. I have come to the conclusion that you will not see rational reason and will let your emotions blind you, as most women do. I would like you top point out where anyone suggested that Maples is a racist? When a person in authority (teacher/ boss/management) witnesses a person under their supervising do or make a comment that is inappropriate and they do not address it; they have ,by default, condoned it that is the message sent. I have not once implied or said what Maples did or is accused of, by the way. "I believe what you're saying dlion, I don't buy that Maples actively recruited anyone...that would take extra work and effort 2 qualities that elude his character." That's not slander, that is an opinion.
Quote from: SCrubjay on August 02, 2013, 08:38:15 AM
I've read this site for 6 years and haven't seen more than a handful of FACTS! why are we starting now???? :D :D :D
Speculation, innuendo and opinion are what keeps sites like this alive.... BUT that is NOT the same as character attacks and defamation....
Very true....
Quote from: Old School on August 02, 2013, 08:38:45 AM
I have been a Garces supporter for years.....
... However, there was a reason he was let go at Garces the 1st time....
Well Hurd, here's a person that is a long time garces supporter ( I will not hold that against him for the time being :)-) and it doesn't appear that he very happy with this "really good man" does it? "BUT I do know his hiring was an embarrassment to the Garces Alum"
I am with you Redneckgirl, I hope Maples come out of this just fine and continues to roam the sidelines of garces for many more years to come. :D
IMHO, for the majority of students, parents, and alumni, I don't think people at Garces really care.. one way, or the other. There has not been any consistency in that program since Dave F. was let go. There has been a different coaching staff for the freshman team pretty-much every year for the past 4-5 years. The J.V. coach that everyone liked left... and there is a completely new coaching staff for the JV program. There has been three head coaches in the past four years.. and all of the assistant coaches are relatively new, within last several years.
Unfortunately, change is the new normal at that school... and everyone will just keep rolling with the punches.
If and when they finally put the person in charge who will provide long-term stability.. like John F. did for years and years, then people will really be passionate and give a crap about the status of the football head coach at Garces.
Garces should scout out and recruit the best coach available, sign him to a long term contract, pay him some real money... and do what schools like Oaks Christian, St. Bonaventure, and Bishop Gorman did - get the best athletes in the county to want to play at their school.
Quote from: mw1 on August 02, 2013, 10:40:56 AM
IMHO, for the majority of students, parents, and alumni, I don't think people at Garces really care.. one way, or the other. There has not been any consistency in that program since Dave F. was let go. There has been a different coaching staff for the freshman team pretty-much every year for the past 4-5 years. The J.V. coach that everyone liked left... and there is a completely new coaching staff for the JV program. There has been three head coaches in the past four years.. and all of the assistant coaches are relatively new, within last several years.
Unfortunately, change is the new normal at that school... and everyone will just keep rolling with the punches.
If and when they finally put the person in charge who will provide long-term stability.. like John F. did for years and years, then people will really be passionate and give a crap about the status of the football head coach at Garces.
Garces should scout out and recruit the best coach available, sign him to a long term contract, pay him some real money... and do what schools like Oaks Christian, St. Bonaventure, and Bishop Gorman did - get the best athletes in the county to want to play at their school.
:u: :u: :u: The catholic schools in the central section are "sleeping Giants" & could compete with the very best athletic programs in the valley while still providing the special kind of education that they are so proud of . That takes Long Term Commitment : to the Program / the Coaching staff / the kids / the alum / the boosters & current supporters .
Quote from: mw1 on August 02, 2013, 10:40:56 AM
...get the best athletes in the county to want to play at their school.
That is what Bakersfield High does and I'm pretty sure we aren't going to share our athletes!
Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 02, 2013, 10:50:31 AM
That is what Bakersfield High does and I'm pretty sure we aren't going to share our athletes!
Not sharing is like counter-recruiting. Equally punishable.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 02, 2013, 10:50:31 AM
That is what Bakersfield High does and I'm pretty sure we aren't going to share our athletes!
I know - AND - I am pretty sure that's why you do not want the Rams to get into the same business 8)
Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 02, 2013, 10:50:31 AM
That is what Bakersfield High does and I'm pretty sure we aren't going to share our athletes!
Here's is how it will go: booster parent sent to recruit the 8th grader: "Hey kid, want a fee iPad?" Kid: "SURE!" - done
Quote from: Bronco on August 02, 2013, 10:54:48 AM
I know - AND - I am pretty sure that's why you do not want the Rams to get into the same business 8)
won't be an issue Bronco we draw from 2 different pools... Why would anyone go to Toledo when you can go to Tuscaloosa
this is a garces "ipad":
(http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/517417/517417,1280738900,1/stock-photo-wooden-rosary-beads-on-white-background-58271185.jpg)
When the truth shows up and the district address's the real issue in this mess, next week, I certainly hope all the haters and "know it all's" apologize for the effort of character assassination of a good man. :d:
Where is the "character assassination" Hurd? So, Old School is way off on what he is saying?
Quote from: Old School on August 02, 2013, 08:38:45 AM
I have been a Garces supporter for years. BUT, when they threw Dave F. under the bus and let him go my support for the administration at GHS went with Dave. EVERYONE at the school who played for Jimmy or coached with Jimmy in the 90's knows he is a great guy to hang out with. However, there was a reason he was let go at Garces the 1st time. So, it s no surprise to anyone in "the know" that he has run into trouble so quickly. I do no believe he was directly involved in anything racal. However, I believe he allowed the kids to be undisciplined and does not reflect the mission of the school. I stood in horror on the sideline at the VC game as I would hear the mouths of the boys on the sideline when something would go bad. They would drop f-bombs and no one would do anything about it. Before John F. was castrated, he would have ripped those kids up and down the field on Friday night and Saturday Morning. I am not saying Jimmy is guilty of any wrong doing bc I do not know what are the accusations. BUT I do know his hiring was an embarrassment to the Garces Alum and is reflective of some of the deeper issues going on with the administration. Don't worry though Garces peeps. Change is coming. Those of you in "the know" understand what I am saying.:)
there is a vacuum leak at the top at Garces for some time now. They cant get any suction going to the prime the pump. I am not a Garces alum but my 3 kids are as well as extended family. Jimmy could be more discipline with the kids, there is no doubt. He is not an embarrassment to me though. This Garces alum you speak of are not all on the same page as you either.
Last year at this time Jimmy was fighting to get the job most people thought was already his. The anti-Jimmy's of last year were just going to insert the appropriate 4 to 5 syllable last name into the head coaching spot and accept the cursory donations that would follow. Instead we got a guy who wasn't an stick in the mud , get in line , good lil boy type.....we got jimmy.
We got someone who could so radically change in on year what Garces was so used to that it produced "THE MOST DYNAMIC TEAM IN GARCES HISTORY" . (I DID NOT SAY BEST).
Jimmy may not be the ultimate answer for Garces but he sure got things shook up a bit.
If anyone reads this post please familiarize yourselves with the word dynamic as it relates to the word static. Garces has had enough static :u:
Here's is how it will go: booster parent sent to recruit the 8th grader: "Hey kid, want a fee iPad?" Kid: "SURE!" - done
MW1 Each student must pay a techno;ogy fee of 200.00 a year for those IPADS, so if you offer them a free one that costs 200.00 then that is a financial gain and a recrutting violation.
Quote from: studtchr on August 02, 2013, 01:21:19 PM
Here's is how it will go: booster parent sent to recruit the 8th grader: "Hey kid, want a fee iPad?" Kid: "SURE!" - done
MW1 Each student must pay a techno;ogy fee of 200.00 a year for those IPADS, so if you offer them a free one that costs 200.00 then that is a financial gain and a recrutting violation.
Let me rephrase: 8th grade kid sent to talk to another 8th grade kid: "Hey, did you know that all students at GHS get iPads that are paid for by someone other than that teenage student?"
Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 02, 2013, 09:54:40 AM
Redneckgirl, I read your first post this morning and have been giving it some thought as to how to respond. I have come to the conclusion that you will not see rational reason and will let your emotions blind you, as most women do.
You mean tell me you read my comments first thing this morning, took the time and thought to consider how to respond, and that's all ya got? You played the "Oh yeah.....well...you're a girl!" card? Tsk....tsk....tsk......so disappointing. I really thought you were more evolved. Look out! Your knuckles are dragging...... :)
Pending statement from Garces we'll lock this down for now.....