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Messages - Darth Backer

#1
Quote from: hardhitter23 on Yesterday at 11:09:47 AMIf I am not mistaken. LA area has 13 divisions

That's the Southern Section... not sure how many the LA City Section has...
#2
Quote from: hardhitter23 on Yesterday at 02:02:35 PMDue to no QB, I still have East to be the team to beat in the TRAC and they have to make a run this year or they are in deep poop.

Central cause of how young and good they are

Clovis because of the QB and the addition of the Edison kids

Clovis North with the bully ball but the dont return a lot

Clovis West rebuilding and trying to survive

Buchannan will be terrible

I call Madsen and Cinfel "a lot"...
#3
Quote from: hardhitter23 on Yesterday at 10:46:02 AMCentrals JV team was lead by 19 Frosh starters. So yes! Their Frosh kids was the team blowing everyone out. It is on MaxPreps. Can you imagine if they were all playing that lower level Frosh team only... They wouldn't be talking about North and their 25 studs is my point I am trying to get across.


44- 9th graders
15- 10th graders


I was at 4 games where it was over by half. Then when it came to the Clovis schools, they did their best to play keep away lol. I didn't go to the Liberty one but that seemed to be their closest game and where the offense didn't explode. That Liberty is also loaded with 10th and quiet a few 11th graders.

That say a lot for the future of the grizzles. Opposed to what CW was saying they were going to be like Garza in 2025

With lower level success being a mixed bag, one could argue that Central has a problem with their class of 2026 more than anything with only 15 sophomores on JV...
#4
Quote from: hardhitter23 on May 13, 2024, 02:25:49 PMagree!!! The best Frosh team was Central who played JV. Now they are loaded. Also with Coach Haynes they are scary for other opponents and fun to watch

Central's frosh team played JV?
#5
Quote from: CWClassof2007 on May 13, 2024, 05:08:41 PMAccording to the CIF website here's how many schools there are in each section:

Central 101
Oakland 20
Central Coast 143
Sac-Joaquin 198
LA City 128
San Diego 124
North Coast 169
San Francisco 15
Northern 70
Southern 556

Why does the Central Section have 6 divisions in football when the Central Coast & San Diego have 5? The Sac-Joaquin & North Coast have 7 which seems like a lot for them too.



My short guess and response is immigrant populations and lower income households per capita...
#6
Central Section Football / Re: Future of the TRAC
May 13, 2024, 02:17:18 PM
Quote from: Timmy Winn on May 13, 2024, 01:55:35 PMLeroy Easter...

They had 3 or 4 solid players. Lost to Centennial in the quarterfinals.
#7
Central Section Football / Re: Future of the TRAC
May 13, 2024, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: eylchamps on May 13, 2024, 12:57:06 PMHow is that going to work?

Two leagues are combined, every couple years each sport is evaluated to create a top tier and a bottom tier. For example, the first top tier football division should look something like:

Hanford
Tulare Union
Redwood
Lemoore
Dinuba
Mission Oak

Bottom Tier:
Mt. Whitney
Tulare Western
Golden West
Porterville
El Diamante
Monache

Each sport would have different schools tiered together.
#8
Central Section Football / Re: Future of the TRAC
May 13, 2024, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: ExCoach on May 13, 2024, 10:19:27 AMIt's already happening. I heard McLane has gotten several transfers from around the district already, including several starters from Edison. When was the last time McLane pulled players, especially from Edison!

1996-1997 with Toste
#9
Central Section Football / Re: Sunnyside 25'
May 13, 2024, 11:15:31 AM
Quote from: Cristobal on May 13, 2024, 06:23:41 AMI remember feeling like this Sunnyside class was going to be ready to play D1 with the QB/WR/RB combo they have. I definitely thought we would see more kids transfer in to bolster the lineup but it seems like they have just fallen flat and if anything lost kids. Other than the father son dynamic is there any other reasons why they can't get over the hump?
They are as good as anyone at the QB/WR positions...
#10
Central Section Football / Re: Future of the TRAC
May 13, 2024, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: Cristobal on May 13, 2024, 06:31:38 AMIf the CMAC/NYL league wasn't so messed up you would think it would be easy to move Central to CMAC with Garza and move Sanger to WYL like the old days?

There is supposed to be an EYL/WYL two tier league in the works for 2025..
#11
Central Section Football / Re: Future of the TRAC
May 10, 2024, 12:37:54 PM
Quote from: Timmy Winn on May 10, 2024, 12:35:12 PMDoes CUSD have the authority to create a private high school(s) within its boundaries? That could accomplish what Bronco is aiming for. You could still keep ALL CUSD high schools while driving all of your best talent in the district to one or two schools.

Ha! They did that a LONG time ago breaking off from Fresno and creating CUSD...
#12
Quote from: Bud Kilmer on May 10, 2024, 08:33:04 AMI believe that may be a relative. Chris Wedel's college stats show he played in the early 2000s.

Yup, saw the last name and blanked on the first...
#13
Central Section Football / Re: Future of the TRAC
May 10, 2024, 08:10:39 AM
Quote from: Bronco on May 09, 2024, 08:29:21 PMI think that CUSD should have 2 High Schools. One at Clovis & one at Buchanan. Thats where the stadiums are ! Those 2 schools should be made up of 11th & 12 graders with feeder schools  for K thru 7 / Jr Hi's 8 thru 10 ( at least 2 /3 each) all feeding into the High School.  Make Herndon the boundary . Like  TULSA  Union High School in Tulsa Ok. With No transfers ! All local kids , It would fill both stadiums every week & turn both Clovis schools back to the Football Programs they NEED to be

The Freshmen rosters are wild... I think CN had maybe 25 kids. 25 studs but 25 never the less.
#14
Central Section Football / Re: Future of the TRAC
May 09, 2024, 08:47:49 AM
I'd argue that Garza adds with Clovis South to make 8 teams.
#15
Quote from: TeddyKGB on May 08, 2024, 02:53:18 PMI believe he's from Wasco originally, but I can't swear to that.

Yup, also attended Wasco and played both football and baseball at COS in the early 90's.
#16
Kennedy is really building something special. Their lower level youth teams are doing very well and run the same schemes and play their games at the varsity stadium. Coach Milan is truly running a "program" out there.
#17
Quote from: TeddyKGB on May 08, 2024, 11:42:02 AMI think a minimum of 5 is generous, but I can see a team scheduling a grueling nonleague schedule that does deserve to be in the playoffs. I would say a minimum of .600 or 2nd place in their league.

League placement doesn't make any sense...
#18
Quote from: Bronco on May 06, 2024, 08:32:11 PMThen don't have teams from different levels in the same conference  - make all conferences be  made of the same division & make the divisions up BEFORE the season - not after. 

There's a lot of long-standing week 10 rival games that have teams from seperate divisions... not the primary issue but part of it. There's also a proximity component when building most leagues.
#19
Quote from: Lancelot on May 06, 2024, 09:53:59 AMFirst and second place team per conference make playoffs, this makes league games important.
the teams that don't qualify are scheduled a bowl game.   

This is the root of our problem. Once leagues began to have teams from multiple divisions, this is when our issues started.
#20
Quote from: mkb152 on April 24, 2024, 09:30:11 PMMaybe to a point.

The problem lies when a school of 3000 gets pushed down to play those with 650 kids it really isn't a level playing field (or vice versa).  There's a point where numbers become a major problem.

Literally every athlete who could help the team in most schools with 500-750 kids is on the team. And that is simply not the case in most big schools.  Dos Palos, Caruthers, Fowler, Woodlake, Liberty (Ranchos), etc. have around 20% of their male population playing football. 

Public schools need a population ceiling they won't go past, and a floor they can't go under.  Private schools should simply be placed in whatever division they belong (usually 1-2, but there exceptions for the really small ones).



Good point. Some of the really small schools have closer to 60% of the male population playing.