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Messages - Roughneck005

#1
Central Section Football / Re: Game on!
August 13, 2019, 01:56:19 PM
Pag's jumped the gun, per usual with his sub par investigative reporting.

Mark Roberts (head official) sent out emails to all schools covered by KCOA reiterating the fact that this news was, in fact, fake - and that there was never talk of the officials not officiating this upcoming fall season. The deal was made official on July 1st for a 1 year agreement with both sides agreeing to come back to discussions in the early part of next year. Pag's blew this news for no reason other than self gratification.
#2
Quote from: TeddyKGB on May 23, 2019, 10:30:33 AM
I have never been a fan of team A beat team B and team B beat team c so it stands to reason that team A would have beat team C. We all know that the game is about match ups and exploiting said match ups. Like TD said, that is why the game is played. To answer your question about Folsom hanging 84 on Central, match ups. They have the athletes to shut down Centrals and had lines that controlled the LOS, so the "brilliance" of Biggs was nullified, that's not a knock on Biggs just pointing out that when athletes are equal he's not the mastermind that some would have us believe he is.

...something...something...jimmies and joes...
#3
Quote from: TD Bullseye on May 23, 2019, 07:57:01 AM
CALPREPS.COM
Your source for high school football scores, standings & rankings

PROJECT A MATCHUP

neutral field
[2014] Liberty (Bakersfield, CA) 24, [2014] Arroyo Grande (CA) 20


Yeah, well...I suppose that's why they actually play the games.

Exactly right. I think it is just prudent to include the fact that calpreps algorithm for projections in Ca has ~84% success rate across the board. It is pretty impressive when you consider the magnitude of Ca versus, say, the District of Columbia where their accuracy projections are sitting ~90%.

Obviously this is all conjecture, but if you take into account that these games would NOT be played on a neutral field...I think you have to attempt to factor in home field advantage to the equation. Add to that a 2hr travel time (either way for those teams) and I would have to say that it would at least be a minimum 3pt advantage to the home team. Unless you are the Drillers, and then I'd say its at least a 9pt advantage.
#4
Quote from: Sixtynine on May 22, 2019, 05:57:24 PM
Clovis blew a 14 point 4th quarter lead to Edison in the semis that year to lose 21-14. Paso smoked said Clovis team

That's why I said "maybe". In the end though, it's all about the last man standing.
#5
Quote from: Sixtynine on May 22, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
2014 Paso would have won D1 Central Section and I'm the biggest valley homer there is

Maybe.

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[2014] Liberty (Bakersfield, CA) 28, [2014] Paso Robles (CA) 24

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[2014] Edison (Fresno, CA) 28, [2014] Paso Robles (CA) 21

#6
Quote from: TD Bullseye on May 22, 2019, 12:31:21 PM
AG was better in '15 than '14 (fact)

2014 Score = AG 24  Liberty 21 (fact)

2015 "Score" = Boat race (opinion)

There is an ebb and flow to the success of all programs...keep counting the Eagles out, they love it.

according to Cal Preps...
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[2015] Liberty (Bakersfield, CA) 31, [2015] Arroyo Grande (CA) 21
#7
Quote from: izne1home on May 03, 2019, 01:09:48 PM
Be careful.  HKSB is where Teddy likes to meet chicks.

I thought it was Teen Challenge in north Bakersfield?
#8
Quote from: MooseKnuckle on May 03, 2019, 12:18:05 PM
Having a "Difficult" Schedule, especially preseason, has shown to be a postseason nightmare for most Central Section teams... Just my opinon

to be fair, you fall in one of two camps: cupcake preseason schedule to pad the win column and *hopefully* boost your team morale OR difficult preseason schedule to test your team's ability and give them a look at good competition.

One of two things happens with each:
Cupcake = really not seeing good comp (unless SWYL/TRAC) UNTIL playoffs and an early bounce or ride the wave of confidence to rattle off some wins
Difficult = possibly entering league with a losing record, but having faced diff. comp roll through league and into playoffs knowing what good comp actually looks like OR get smashed in pre league and have broken confidence rolling into league/playoffs and take an early exit.

There are positives/negatives to both camps, but I've always fallen in the more difficult the pre season, the better prepared you are for league and playoffs. Because what good does playing Helen Keller School for the Blind do for you in the long run?
#9
Central Section Football / Re: COACH HUNTER
May 03, 2019, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: PickSix on May 03, 2019, 11:31:16 AM
TU is loaded with guys that have head coaching experience!

Something about too many chiefs...never a good thing
#10
Quote from: guru09 on March 25, 2019, 08:02:45 AM
Have they landed on the Rock???

not a chance. likely at st. joe's.
#12
Central Section Football / Re: AAF
February 13, 2019, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: TeddyKGB on February 13, 2019, 11:33:22 AM
Does anyone know if any kids from the Central Valley are playing in the AAF league?

Kamari Cotton-Moya from Ridgeview signed with Arizona and was set to play but was injured in the middle of January during a joint practice with the Orlando team. Apparent knee injury.
Cole Mazza from Liberty (Bakersfield) is currently playing with the Birmingham Iron.
#13
Central Section Football / Re: Golla to Garces???
February 07, 2019, 08:24:33 AM
Quote from: Spazzilla on February 07, 2019, 08:01:46 AM
It' a huge move going from Public to private.  Lot's of things to consider: retirement, benefits, tenure, pay. It had to be a GREAT offer to walk away from all that when I'd imagine he's closer to retirement age than not.

The reality is, he doesn't HAVE to leave KHSD if he doesn't want to. He is beyond tenured, he can continue to teach in KHSD (whether it will be at BHS remains to be seen), and coach at Garces - SEVERAL teachers have done this in the past (cough...Maples...cough). He wouldn't need to "give up" any of the aforementioned luxuries of being an employee of KHSD. He can simply walk on at Garces should that be something that they are ok with. I imagine the hefty "stipend" rumored to be in the upper ranges of five figures swayed the decision to move from a seemingly endless pool of talent to a smaller program that needs some rebuilding, especially with him being closer to retirement in the next 5-10yrs.

I'm not mad at the guy. Like any of us, he chose to make a decision that he and his family felt were best for them. That's all anyone can do, and none of us are in the position to judge what else was behind his motives. Sure, we can be critical; and yes, the timing with the departure of Reese is obviously a factor - but change is inevitable.
#14
Central Section Football / Re: Memorial
January 28, 2019, 08:16:12 AM
Quote from: good #2 on January 28, 2019, 06:13:41 AM
You make it sound like this was something Memorial decided to do.

lmao.
#15
Quote from: CoachBnd on January 17, 2019, 01:13:53 PM
Frontier job is not open, at least if I did get fired no one told me!   :o

You didn't hear?
#16
Quote from: Beercat on December 21, 2018, 02:11:59 PM
D1 - AG, SJ, Righetti
D2 - PR, Nipomo, Mission
D3 - SLO, Pioneer Valley, Atown
D4 - Templeton, Santa Maria
D6 - Morro Bay

Possible adjustments coming this year, but maybe not much. Could likely look like:
D1: AG, SJ, Righetti (there shouldn't be any movement here)
D2: Paso, Nipomo (honestly, possibly PV as well - didn't realize they are sitting at 2,700 students...)
D3: SLO, PV, Atascadero (agreed)
D4: Templeton, Santa Maria (again...2,600 students....)
D5: Morro Bay (so, so bad the last few years. Feel back for the Rock)
D6: Mission Prep (not because they are truly a D6 private, but because they play mainly an 8-man schedule - honestly, D4/5 is probably more fitting)
#17
Central Section Football / Re: Tulare Union vs. SJM
December 10, 2018, 07:50:08 AM
Quote from: All Star Kev on December 09, 2018, 11:47:13 PM
Again... They asked to go up and the were denied.

This ^^^^

Untrue.

With the point total accumulation (system that CIF uses to determine divisional placement) that SJM has had over the previous 2 year cycle, as well as their success last year - they had a solid case for moving up should they have asked to. Because it is an off year on the 2 year cycle realignment, the only way they would have moved is if they HAD requested it. They didn't petition to stay down in D3, but they surely did NOT petition to move up to D2.

Having said that - I'm not taking anything away from SJM on their regional win against TU, they earned that win, and again, would have likely won the D2 championship this year in the same fashion. Just making clear that with the current divisional alignment system, there is ALWAYS room for teams to move up (see TW), moving down is much more difficult.
#18
Quote from: chrissk2002 on November 24, 2018, 01:09:12 PM
6-9 I agree but it's not something Memorial controls! You can request to be moved up or down but the decision ultimately lies with the administrators...Ask Tulare Western how it worked out for them!!

That is far from how the process actually works...

Total "point accumulation" (playoff wins, semi appearances, championships won/lost) over the cycle, determined in odd years is the main basis for the section determining divisional placements.

There are *some other factors considered. But the decision does NOT ultimately lie with administrators. View the link to the CIFCS website regarding divisional and league placements.

As far as TW is concerned...They have bigger cojones than SJM does in my book, requesting to be moved up even after LOSING a section championship game. SJM WON and quietly stayed put...says a lot.

http://www.cifcs.org/governance/constitution-and-bylaws/34-division-and-league-placement

#19
Deja Vu has gift cards...just sayin'.
#20
Quote from: mkb152 on November 09, 2018, 11:31:42 PM
Actually, there is.  The Central Section has set "boundaries" for private schools where full family moves can be used.  For example, if a kid moved from LA to Fresno, he could attend SJM on a full family move.

These "boundaries" are not the type of enrollment boundaries that public schools have to follow. For example, in Bakersfield, if you lived at the corner of Stockdale and Allen, you would be right next to Bakersfield Christian High School, however, you would be living in Liberty High's attendance area. Your parents could choose to enroll you in BCHS without prejudice, not because of their set "boundaries" but because of the fact that it is a private high school and it is a "parent's choice" of education opportunities based upon religious beliefs. Many times, parents us the API score loophole to transfer students into a private school from public. Because private schools do not have API scores, there is no way to judge where they stand.

The loophole is basically this: your parents can file a hardship waiver to transfer said student out of public institution with a low (or any, when private schools are concerned) API score, to another school with a higher API score under a "hardship waiver".

This applies to public -> public as well, although it is used less frequently. Because private schools do not have an API score, a parent can "claim" that their student's current school's API score is too low, and thus, file a hardship waiver for transfer to another school - usually a public -> private transfer.

Public to public is way different. Say you lived at the same corner of Stockdale and Allen in Bakersfield, your attendance area would still be Liberty High, but say your parents wanted you to attend Frontier (or Centennial, etc.) - the process for moving to another public high school outside of your home residence area is much more tricky.

I get what you're saying, and I understand that CIF has instituted very loose regulations when it comes to "boundaries" for private schools - I'm merely stating that it is still ridiculously easy to move from public -> private and become immediately eligible.