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Title: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: Touchback on March 29, 2015, 09:24:51 PM
Two Bakersfield Quarterbacks led their teams to the Final 8 of the "Passing Down Southern California Regionals". Both teams qualified for the "Best of the West" State Tournament on April 26, 2015. Liberty's Junior Quarterback Jordan Love led his "Ground Zero Panoramic" team to a 2nd place finish , while Sophomore Garces Quarterback Conor Bruce led his "Ground Zero Sniper" team to the Final Eight. The Bakersfield "Ground Zero Square Up" team narrowly missed a final eight finish. Other notables who played exceptionally well were Matt Hubble of Panoramic, Brady Serda of Sniper and Cole Nelson, Parker Holbrook, Cole Beatty and Deondre Henderson of Square Up. Many other Bakersfield players also stood out. Congratulations to all for making Kern County Proud.   
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: Lock down DB on March 31, 2015, 04:42:36 PM
Where are all the Ridgeview kids?
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: cazadore on April 01, 2015, 09:07:31 AM
Quote from: Lock down DB on March 31, 2015, 04:42:36 PM
Where are all the Ridgeview kids?

Why would you ask that question?
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: Touchback on April 02, 2015, 07:43:20 AM
Quote from: Lock down DB on March 31, 2015, 04:42:36 PM
Where are all the Ridgeview kids?

Ridgeview Quarterback/Cornerback Lawrence White played in the Passing Down Northern California Regional with his team DB Nation.
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: flexmac3 on April 03, 2015, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: Touchback on April 02, 2015, 07:43:20 AM
Ridgeview Quarterback/Cornerback Lawrence White played in the Passing Down Northern California Regional with his team DB Nation.
Wow! this kid is also on the track team, the past two weeks he has been competed in four track meets, adding in 7v7, and school is a lot.
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: TeddyKGB on April 04, 2015, 05:09:36 PM
THis White kid sounds like the perfect canidate to fill the void at the QB spot for the Drillers.
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: Lock down DB on April 06, 2015, 10:50:40 PM
I asked because I see all these kids playing 7on7 and didnt hear about ridgeview boys!! they did win the division and did go to state! They have some great athletes!! Thats why I asked! lol
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: cazadore on April 07, 2015, 08:38:21 AM
Quote from: Lock down DB on April 06, 2015, 10:50:40 PM
I asked because I see all these kids playing 7on7 and didnt hear about ridgeview boys!! they did win the division and did go to state! They have some great athletes!! Thats why I asked! lol

"lol"  :huh: :huh:  Your question just seemed rhetorical.  You didn't hear about the ridgeview boys?  That is like asking why the talented kid who plays basketball for Norris isn't on the NJB all-star team.  Why not?  Because his parents didn't sign him up, pay the money, and drive him to practices/games every week.  That is why!  All of this 7on7 stuff is a business.  If little Johnny Ridgeview wants to pay to play 7on7, the 7on7 people would love to have him and all of his buddies (along with their monthly dues).  I believe they practice at Liberty park once a week.  That shouldn't be too far to run for those kids who do track.  From the group of kids who gather at Liberty Park to practice each week, they pick the best ones to be a part of these L.A. teams that travel to the tournaments.  Perhaps a better question to ask is "What is the deal with all of this GroundZero 7on7 stuff?  Because I don't know anything about it."
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: Lock down DB on April 07, 2015, 11:52:36 AM
lol I can clearly see that Cazadore doesnt know much about the 7on7 circuit. and monthly dues??? ok! And TouckBack nailed it!! with his last post!
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: cazadore on April 07, 2015, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: Lock down DB on April 07, 2015, 11:52:36 AM
lol I can clearly see that Cazadore doesnt know much about the 7on7 circuit. and monthly dues??? ok! And TouckBack nailed it!! with his last post!

So, then, where were all of the Ridgeview kids? 
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: hardhitter23 on April 07, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
7on7 can be a waste at times. IMO it is all an ego thing.  :d: :d: :d:
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: Lock down DB on April 07, 2015, 08:57:17 PM
I now know where the ridgeview kids are! and Hard hitter I see your point I kinda agree with you but I think 7on7 is here to stay.
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: cazadore on April 07, 2015, 09:46:03 PM
Quote from: Lock down DB on April 07, 2015, 08:57:17 PM
I now know where the ridgeview kids are! and Hard hitter I see your point I kinda agree with you but I think 7on7 is here to stay.

Well????  let us all in on the secret.  Where are all of the Ridgeview kids?  While you're at it, let us know how these 3rd and 4th party trainers pay for their 7 on 7 circuit that you know so much about?  Because I am sure they aren't doing it for free.  Who pays for their practice facilities and gas to drive up to Bakersfield and back?  I can't believe they are donating all of this out of the kindness of their hearts.  Because if they are, they should get some type of recognition for their sacrifice.
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: Forceuser on April 08, 2015, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: hardhitter23 on April 07, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
7on7 can be a waste at times. IMO it is all an ego thing.  :d: :d: :d:

YES!!!!
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: mw1 on April 08, 2015, 08:13:29 PM
Quote from: hardhitter23 on April 07, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
7on7 can be a waste at times. IMO it is all an ego thing.  :d: :d: :d:

I gave my opinion on 7-v-7 in a previous topic discussion; however, I read an article that put things into perspective....

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6600377

I guess if I had a talented son who was a DB or WR, I would probably be all over this type of thing.  Especially if my son were a WR at a school that didn't have much of a passing game... or a DB that played in a league that didn't have much passing.  You would never get much of a chance to show your talent (except for the occasional combine or camp).  College scouts appear to be lazy these days.. and follow the path of least resistance.  Since the college coaches are giving these venues the time of day, it is something that is not going to go away.... Hey, that rhymed!  That could be in a rap song. 
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: DB NATION on April 08, 2015, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: mw1 on April 08, 2015, 08:13:29 PM
I gave my opinion on 7-v-7 in a previous topic discussion; however, I read an article that put things into perspective....

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6600377

I guess if I had a talented son who was a DB or WR, I would probably be all over this type of thing.  Especially if my son were a WR at a school that didn't have much of a passing game... or a DB that played in a league that didn't have much passing.  You would never get much of a chance to show your talent (except for the occasional combine or camp).  College scouts appear to be lazy these days.. and follow the path of least resistance.  Since the college coaches are giving these venues the time of day, it is something that is not going to go away.... Hey, that rhymed!  That could be in a rap song. 

Exactly why 7on7 will only grow! just like you said MW1, If you had a kid that was a DB/WR and was at a school that didnt throw much 7on7 is a chance for him to display that he can play.  #DegreeBoundNation
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: DB NATION on April 09, 2015, 02:29:47 PM
Here you guys go.
http://therecruitingcode.com/college-coaches-are-not-coming-to-your-high-school-games/
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: Coach Fowler on April 09, 2015, 09:50:59 PM
Quote from: DB NATION on April 09, 2015, 02:29:47 PM
Here you guys go.
http://therecruitingcode.com/college-coaches-are-not-coming-to-your-high-school-games/

The Coach who runs the site listed is a former college women's soccer coach and current club team girls soccer coach.  Girls soccer is highly recruited (like several other sports) through club teams.  College coaches still attend high school football games, ask for hudl film from the high school coach, transcripts etc..  I would say that High School Football Coaches are easily contacted.  Especially, when it involves helping a kid fulfill his dream of becoming a college student athlete. 
A lot of high schools in Southern California have a showcase day where college coaches show up in mass and watch that school's top players go through drills etc.  Locally, that process is usually conducted by outside / club team coaches who put together kids from various schools and have a showcase.  Is football moving in the direction of the AAU route or is the High School Coach still the most integral part of the recruiting process?  If everyone is in it to help kids then it's all great!  When folks become opportunists then not so much.  I guess it all boils down to why folks are working with kids....
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: valleyfbfan on April 10, 2015, 10:21:35 AM
Even that article says that football is different than the other sports.  That college coaches do go to their HIGH SCHOOL games.  The main reason is that in 7 on 7 THEY DON'T HIT ANYBODY!!!!
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: Aggie75 on April 10, 2015, 10:44:06 AM
Quote from: Touchback on April 09, 2015, 08:45:05 PM
What Bakersfield Football Coaches work the hardest at getting their kids scholarships?


I am also interested to know whether the local football coaches work as hard for the players in getting scholarships as the players work for the coaches? Do the coaches actively seek out compatible programs for the players or do they wait to be contacted by Colleges before acting? Also what coaches have the highest success rate in obtaining scholarships for their players?
Title: Re: Passing Down 7on7 Southern California Regionals Results
Post by: DB NATION on April 10, 2015, 12:31:12 PM
Football is different than other sports when it comes to recruiting. And for the most part College coaches attend HS & JUCO games when they have a bye week in their own schedule. Touchback, Their is no telling about if football is moving to the AAU route, the bottom line is unlike basketball  7on7 can never replace or simulate 11 on 11 football so in a sense the HS coaches still have to be a part of the process to an extent. However, college coaches at times have better relashionships with 7on7 coaches and will call them before they contact a HS coach. SOME hs coaches dont care for the whole recruiting process and do not try and help their kids. With that being said I have yet to see in a HS coach's contract that it says they have to help a kid get recruited so it isnt on them. Morally should they? I am not sure that is up to each coach. Far example why would Boise st call xxx High school when they are looking at one player from that school when they can call their 7on7 coach who has that athlete and 4 others Boise is looking at? its just an example guys. And some of these 7on7 coaches have real relashionships with the player and their family. There are a few HS coaches that do not put in the time or effort to help their players. I said a few not all. Also, How long has that HS coach been with the program? 2 years? when the 7on7 guy has been with the players 4 or 5? I see both sides of it and no matter what anyone says this argument will never end. I was told a few years back bu John Neal " Here at Oregon, if we see a kid with Great movement in their feet in hips and can cover we will take him. He is ready. The hitting and tackleing we can teach when they get gere but the movement is a hard process to reteach when they get to this level" That is straight out of the Oregon DB coache's mouth. Alot of the 7on7 guys are former college and NFL player's. you can go to a 7on7 tourney and see guys running programs that we all would watch play on TV when we were younger and I believe these guys kinda know what they are doing. Alot of them teach technique that the HS coaches do not teach.Like i already said, this arguement will go on forever. I do not think anyone is correct or incorrect about this topic but as long as College coaches are contacting 7on7 coaches then it will keep growing and growing weather any of us agree with it or not.