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Title: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on July 23, 2015, 10:17:40 PM
...is threatening to run as a third part candidate if he doesn't get the rep nomination. We are never going to have another republican president if these idiots do not quit splitting the vote...
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 23, 2015, 10:33:44 PM
Trump is certainly stirring things up.....about time someone did that to the Repubs.....may not vote for Donald but certainly enjoying watching him kick the establishment Repubs right between the legs....sick of career politicians from both side of the isle....maybe it's time we put someone in the WH who isn't a life long politician....couldn't be any worse than what we've had for the last couple of decades.....
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on July 24, 2015, 02:22:56 AM
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 23, 2015, 10:33:44 PM
Trump is certainly stirring things up.....about time someone did that to the Repubs.....may not vote for Donald but certainly enjoying watching him kick the establishment Repubs right between the legs....sick of career politicians from both side of the isle....maybe it's time we put someone in the WH who isn't a life long politician....couldn't be any worse than what we've had for the last couple of decades.....

I'm with you. Trump is def make my them squirm...I like that a lot! What I don't like is, if he doesn't get the nomination, for him to run as a third party candidate and split the vote on the right. Of course, Trump is a negotiator...maybe this is the beginning of negotiations...
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Backwards K on July 24, 2015, 10:19:37 AM
Republicans are more scared of him then the Dems are because he's telling more of the truth about the TRUTH then all them pansies put together that claim to be republican. Its about time someone stood up to Mexico. When it really get's down to it he is voicing a lot of what good honest hard working tax payers of all races recognize is taking place the current establishment just pisses down your leg as says it's raining...
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Bronco on July 24, 2015, 10:26:08 AM
Quote from: Backwards K on July 24, 2015, 10:19:37 AM
Republicans are more scared of him then the Dems are because he's telling more of the truth about the TRUTH then all them pansies put together that claim to be republican. Its about time someone stood up to Mexico. When it really get's down to it he is voicing a lot of what good honest hard working tax payers of all races recognize is taking place the current establishment just pisses down your leg as says it's raining...
:u:  You're right about that !!
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Backwards K on July 24, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Quote from: Bronco on July 24, 2015, 10:26:08 AM
  :u:  You're right about that !!

Here's the difference and why he can speak his mind, HE's Nobodies BOY ? He is a self made man who has the income to defend himself in any court in the nation and the ability to hire the quality of security that can defend him against threat.

That's a great place to be and speak the truth... as well as your mind on things of injustices ... He will be the most Patriotic leader this country will have seen in a long long time ... maybe since Truman...

assuming of course he can wing it...
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on July 24, 2015, 11:15:17 AM
Really really looking forward to Aug 6...it's gonna be enlightening
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: SCrubjay on July 24, 2015, 11:34:53 AM
Quote from: valleynative on July 24, 2015, 11:15:17 AM
Really really looking forward to Aug 6...it's gonna be enlightening

here's a preview.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7xiJ_HD6c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7xiJ_HD6c)
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 24, 2015, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: Backwards K on July 24, 2015, 10:19:37 AM
Republicans are more scared of him then the Dems are because he's telling more of the truth about the TRUTH then all them pansies put together that claim to be republican. Its about time someone stood up to Mexico. When it really get's down to it he is voicing a lot of what good honest hard working tax payers of all races recognize is taking place the current establishment just pisses down your leg as says it's raining...

:u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u:
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on July 24, 2015, 12:40:27 PM
Quote from: SCrubjay on July 24, 2015, 11:34:53 AM
here's a preview.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7xiJ_HD6c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7xiJ_HD6c)


Haha...it's gonna get dirty for sure!  He better not drop out before the debate! 
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 24, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
Quote from: valleynative on July 24, 2015, 12:40:27 PM
Haha...it's gonna get dirty for sure!  He better not drop out before the debate! 

100% agree, want to see him tell some they should be FIRED....LOL
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on July 24, 2015, 02:16:05 PM
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 24, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
100% agree, want to see him tell some they should be FIRED....LOL

:u:  yes!!!  Except for Perry and Rubio...looks count too  ;)
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 24, 2015, 02:39:28 PM
Quote from: valleynative on July 24, 2015, 02:16:05 PM
:u:  yes!!!  Except for Perry and Rubio...looks count too  ;)

Cougar..... :D ;)
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on July 24, 2015, 02:51:07 PM
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 24, 2015, 02:39:28 PM
Cougar..... :D ;)

Oh crud! Rubio is younger than me...perry's not though 😁
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 27, 2015, 07:00:31 AM
Well, the Donald is at the top of the polls....this is going to get interesting....his pitch is to get rid of the professional politicians, and it's resonating with the folks.....remember, the Republican establishment didn't like Reagan either.....
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: SCrubjay on July 27, 2015, 08:18:42 AM
He's a buffoon.... and a walking stereotype of most everything that is wrong with this party....  you can talk about being an outsider, but at the end of the day, he isn't .... no one gets to his level of wealth and notoriety  without being a politician; the only difference is he's never been elected.......

read this article and weep.... until the GOP takes this to heart and ACTIVELY understands that the VAST majority of Latinos are exactly the type of constituent they want and need... hard working, God fearing, family oriented... they are doomed to irrelevance in this state and, increasingly, this country....

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-latino-gop-20150717-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-latino-gop-20150717-story.html)
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 27, 2015, 10:04:10 AM
Quote from: SCrubjay on July 27, 2015, 08:18:42 AM
He's a buffoon.... and a walking stereotype of most everything that is wrong with this party....  you can talk about being an outsider, but at the end of the day, he isn't .... no one gets to his level of wealth and notoriety  without being a politician; the only difference is he's never been elected.......

read this article and weep.... until the GOP takes this to heart and ACTIVELY understands that the VAST majority of Latinos are exactly the type of constituent they want and need... hard working, God fearing, family oriented... they are doomed to irrelevance in this state and, increasingly, this country....

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-latino-gop-20150717-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-latino-gop-20150717-story.html)

Not disagreeing with you and most especially agree on the Latino vote and the Repubs....however, Trump has the money to get himself on the ballot and is leading in the polls, though that can change within a couple of days as we all know.  Not sure he is a buffoon as you don't get the kind of wealth he has generated without having something on the ball....he's full of himself, no doubt, but that has served him well in the long run....all I know is he couldn't do any worse than the Ivy League professional politicians have been doing and he's not afraid to call them to the carpet....maybe that's the kick in the ass this country needs....going to be interesting to watch....
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: izne1home on July 29, 2015, 12:11:52 AM
Quote from: SCrubjay on July 27, 2015, 08:18:42 AM
until the GOP takes this to heart and ACTIVELY understands that the VAST majority of Latinos are exactly the type of constituent they want and need... hard working, God fearing, family oriented... they are doomed to irrelevance in this state and, increasingly, this country....

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: SCrubjay on July 29, 2015, 08:47:58 AM
Quote from: izne1home on July 29, 2015, 12:11:52 AM
Couldn't agree more.

should have added "entrepreneurial" too!... :D :D

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-0729-pinata-20150729-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-0729-pinata-20150729-story.html)

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-55b83da8/turbine/la-la-me-pinata02-jpg-20150728/900/900x506)
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 29, 2015, 09:52:46 AM
Quote from: SCrubjay on July 29, 2015, 08:47:58 AM
should have added "entrepreneurial" too!... :D :D

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-0729-pinata-20150729-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-0729-pinata-20150729-story.html)

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-55b83da8/turbine/la-la-me-pinata02-jpg-20150728/900/900x506)

Was watching a couple of U.S. citizens of Hispanic heritage interviewed last night about Trump and they were all for him saying he was right....going to be interesting to watch this unfold
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: diesel on July 29, 2015, 01:05:33 PM
Where do you guys get "self-made man"???

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is an American business magnate, investor,[10] television personality, and author. He is the chairman and president of The Trump Organization and the founder of Trump Entertainment Resorts.[1] Trump's lifestyle and outspoken manner, as well as his books and his media appearances, have made him an American celebrity. He hosted The Apprentice,[2] a US TV show.

Trump is a son of Fred Trump, a New York City real estate developer.[11] Donald Trump worked for his father's firm, Elizabeth Trump & Son, while attending the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, and, in 1968, officially joined the company.[12] He was given control of the company in 1971, renaming it The Trump Organization.[13][14] Trump remains a major figure in the real estate industry in the United States and a media celebrity.[15]

In 2010, Trump expressed an interest in becoming a candidate for President of the United States in the 2012 election,[16][17] but in May 2011, he announced he would not run.[18] He was a featured speaker at the 2013 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC),[19] and, in the same year, began researching a possible presidential bid in the 2016 election.[20][21] On June 16, 2015 at Trump Tower in Manhattan, Trump formally announced his candidacy for President of the United States in the 2016 election, seeking the nomination of the Republican Party.[22][23]
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 29, 2015, 02:31:13 PM
Quote from: diesel on July 29, 2015, 01:05:33 PM
Where do you guys get "self-made man"???

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is an American business magnate, investor,[10] television personality, and author. He is the chairman and president of The Trump Organization and the founder of Trump Entertainment Resorts.[1] Trump's lifestyle and outspoken manner, as well as his books and his media appearances, have made him an American celebrity. He hosted The Apprentice,[2] a US TV show.

Trump is a son of Fred Trump, a New York City real estate developer.[11] Donald Trump worked for his father's firm, Elizabeth Trump & Son, while attending the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, and, in 1968, officially joined the company.[12] He was given control of the company in 1971, renaming it The Trump Organization.[13][14] Trump remains a major figure in the real estate industry in the United States and a media celebrity.[15]

In 2010, Trump expressed an interest in becoming a candidate for President of the United States in the 2012 election,[16][17] but in May 2011, he announced he would not run.[18] He was a featured speaker at the 2013 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC),[19] and, in the same year, began researching a possible presidential bid in the 2016 election.[20][21] On June 16, 2015 at Trump Tower in Manhattan, Trump formally announced his candidacy for President of the United States in the 2016 election, seeking the nomination of the Republican Party.[22][23]

Who said he was a self-made man?  Just ran through the posts and don't see that any where....maybe I missed it.

However, Trump has been an extremely successful businessman....hope you aren't trying to deny that....he has taken an inheritance of somewhere between $40-200 million (no small amount) and turned in into a $10 billion plus business enterprise....that didn't happen by him sitting back and living off daddy's money.....self-made is relative, but Trump is no Hampton's style trust fund kid....
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: SCrubjay on July 29, 2015, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 29, 2015, 02:31:13 PM
....he has taken an inheritance of somewhere between $40-200 million (no small amount) and turned in into a $10 billion plus business enterprise.......

First... one thing Diesel is missing is that when he took over his Dad's company he was only 25 ... and those estate values weren't until his dad's death in 1999.... so how much of the growth in his dad's estate was directly a result of Donald Trump's management?

Second...  and you all know how much I love this stuff.... in 1999 there was only a $650,000 estate tax exemption per person with an unlimited spousal exclusion ... proper planning would have dictated that only $650,000 was left in Fred's estate (so that no taxes were paid) and all the remaining $300,000,000 went tax free to his wife....  but, uh oh, she died the very next year, which is really bad planning...  so her taxable estate would have been about $299,500,000... at a rate of 55%... so after taxes about $135,000,000.... Donald is one of 5 kids (one brother predeceased his parents, but he was married and that branch was presumably still taken care of).... so Donald's share was probably closer to $27,000,000 ....  nothing to sneeze at but I personally know many people in this valley alone who have inherited a whole lot more and done a whole lot less 
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: diesel on July 30, 2015, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 29, 2015, 02:31:13 PM
Who said he was a self-made man?  Just ran through the posts and don't see that any where....maybe I missed it.

Read again.....

Quote from: Backwards K on July 24, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Here's the difference and why he can speak his mind, HE's Nobodies BOY ? He is a self made man who has the income to defend himself in any court in the nation and the ability to hire the quality of security that can defend him against threat.

That's a great place to be and speak the truth... as well as your mind on things of injustices ... He will be the most Patriotic leader this country will have seen in a long long time ... maybe since Truman...

assuming of course he can wing it...

No one else called him on it so I assumed you all agreed with him.....;)
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 30, 2015, 01:14:06 PM
Quote from: diesel on July 30, 2015, 10:19:11 AM
Read again.....

No one else called him on it so I assumed you all agreed with him.....;)

I missed it, need to work on my speed reading.... :shock:  :D
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on July 30, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 30, 2015, 01:14:06 PM
I missed it, need to work on my speed reading.... :shock:  :D

Come on JAF...it's only 2 pages...it's not like you have a real job or anything  ;) :)- ;)
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on July 30, 2015, 05:03:06 PM
Quote from: valleynative on July 30, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
Come on JAF...it's only 2 pages...it's not like you have a real job or anything  ;) :)- ;)

LOL.... yea, I'm one of those business execs that works 9-5 and takes month long vacations, I should do better.... ;)  :D
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Backwards K on August 04, 2015, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: diesel on July 30, 2015, 10:19:11 AM
Read again.....

No one else called him on it so I assumed you all agreed with him.....;)

BEEN AWAY FOR A BIT,  anyway, meant absent lobbyist produced candidate...
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 03:19:55 AM
Tomorrow! It's going to be the best debate I've ever watched. Can't wait to see Trump in action.
He said on O'Reilly that he's building a wall...and Mexico is going to pay for it...OReilly asked how he would convince Mexico to do that...Trump: I'm going to tell them to.
His confidence is amazing lol
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 06:37:02 AM
Quote from: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 03:19:55 AM
Tomorrow! It's going to be the best debate I've ever watched. Can't wait to see Trump in action.
He said on O'Reilly that he's building a wall...and Mexico is going to pay for it...OReilly asked how he would convince Mexico to do that...Trump: I'm going to tell them to.
His confidence is amazing lol

He better come up with a better answer though...like his confidence but you have to give details....people are tired of platitudes...
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: tru guru on August 05, 2015, 06:52:18 AM
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 06:37:02 AM
He better come up with a better answer though...like his confidence but you have to give details....people are tired of platitudes...

I think he has an answer ready.  Just doesn't want it vetted in the media before the debate.
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: diesel on August 05, 2015, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 03:19:55 AM
Tomorrow! It's going to be the best debate I've ever watched. Can't wait to see Trump in action.
He said on O'Reilly that he's building a wall...and Mexico is going to pay for it...OReilly asked how he would convince Mexico to do that...Trump: I'm going to tell them to.
His confidence is amazing lol

He's going to hire illegal immigrants to build it...... ;)
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: diesel on August 05, 2015, 10:31:39 AM
He's going to hire illegal immigrants to build it...... ;)

If they build it from the Mexico side, they're not illegal lol
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 06:37:02 AM
He better come up with a better answer though...like his confidence but you have to give details....people are tired of platitudes...

Absolutely...he hinted at 'trade' agreements.
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 12:23:01 PM
Quote from: tru guru on August 05, 2015, 06:52:18 AM
I think he has an answer ready.  Just doesn't want it vetted in the media before the debate.

Good point...I can't imagine he will be unprepared.  Trump is kind of arrogant, I can't imagine he will make himself look like an idiot. 
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 12:23:01 PM
Good point...I can't imagine he will be unprepared.  Trump is kind of arrogant, I can't imagine he will make himself look like an idiot. 

LOL...I kind of doubt that as well....now he may call someone an idiot politician during the evening, which is when the sparks will start flying...  :D ;)
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Denver Viking on August 05, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
Lots of talk out there on Bill Clinton encouraging Trump to run for the GOP nomination. Is he a Hillary plant?
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: diesel on August 05, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
Quote from: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 12:23:01 PM
I can't imagine he will make himself look like an idiot. 

Have you not been paying attention?? LOL!!
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: diesel on August 05, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
Have you not been paying attention?? LOL!!

He's actually saying what a lot of people have been thinking....that's why his numbers are climbing so quickly....he might actually make a good POTUS, someone with some backbone and not afraid to say No...
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 03:11:38 PM
Quote from: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 02:54:41 PM
He's actually saying what a lot of people have been thinking....that's why his numbers are climbing so quickly....he might actually make a good POTUS, someone with some backbone and not afraid to say No...

Also someone who would put knowledgable people in key positions and actually listen to them
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: tru guru on August 05, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 03:11:38 PM
Also someone who would put knowledgable people in key positions and actually listen to them

Great point.  Donald delegates responsibility very well in his business ventures, while ultimately maintaining final say.  He does not play by the "unwritten" political rules and the reality is that the Republican party needs to get a little bit "dirty" in order to break the Democratic stranglehold that has choked this country the past 8 years. 
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: tru guru on August 05, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
Great point.  Donald delegates responsibility very well in his business ventures, while ultimately maintaining final say.  He does not play by the "unwritten" political rules and the reality is that the Republican party needs to get a little bit "dirty" in order to break the Democratic stranglehold that has choked this country the past 8 years. 

:u: :u: :u:
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: tru guru on August 05, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
Great point.  Donald delegates responsibility very well in his business ventures, while ultimately maintaining final say.  He does not play by the "unwritten" political rules and the reality is that the Republican party needs to get a little bit "dirty" in order to break the Democratic stranglehold that has choked this country the past 8 years. 

Yep!
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: izne1home on August 05, 2015, 10:23:41 PM
Quote from: tru guru on August 05, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
... the reality is that the Republican party needs to get a little bit "dirty" in order to break the Democratic stranglehold that has choked this country the past 8 years. 

A lot dirty. 
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on August 06, 2015, 01:59:59 PM
TONIGHT  is almost here!!!  I'm giddy :).
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on November 17, 2015, 06:17:46 PM
Sooo...it's a ways off...but if he gets the nomination, who is best choice for running mate? Rumors are he would choose Cruz.  Whatcha think?
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: Phoenix on November 17, 2015, 08:07:36 PM
Quote from: valleynative on November 17, 2015, 06:17:46 PM
Sooo...it's a ways off...but if he gets the nomination, who is best choice for running mate? Rumors are he would choose Cruz.  Whatcha think?

whaych think?
i think me an the boys are a buncha friggin mystics thats what i think
corse i dint let on that ol madam sofia was drinkn with us
smartest woman in all of fowler which means shes to smart to livein selma or vikingsberg
new that ol trumpy was sweet on the canacuban
guy is like a reeses cup
hey you got your cohiba in my poutine
NO YOU got your poutine on my cohiba
prettty sure thats the same discussion ol tricky willy had with that girl with the stain on her blue dress
god i miss that guy
politics were for shyt but dam he was a lot of fun

Quote from: Phoenix on September 21, 2015, 09:25:39 PM
me and eht moosnhine boy were in the trailer thnkin nad drinkin over the weekend
two things
why can you make home wine and home beer but ya make home hooch and your brakin the law

anywho
we got this president thing all figgerd out
ol donny boy dont wana to be president
shid whodoes
he just wantsa control the president without all the bs so he picks ted cruz
done
jsut stop all this now

......

so your next president is senor rafael eduardo cruz
the baddest latino ever to come outta canada

just watch
Title: Re: The Donald
Post by: valleynative on November 17, 2015, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: Phoenix on November 17, 2015, 08:07:36 PM
whaych think?
i think me an the boys are a buncha friggin mystics thats what i think
corse i dint let on that ol madam sofia was drinkn with us
smartest woman in all of fowler which means shes to smart to livein selma or vikingsberg
new that ol trumpy was sweet on the canacuban
guy is like a reeses cup
hey you got your cohiba in my poutine
NO YOU got your poutine on my cohiba
prettty sure thats the same discussion ol tricky willy had with that girl with the stain on her blue dress
god i miss that guy
politics were for shyt but dam he was a lot of fun

You so called it! 😉