HELP ID THESE CW personnel?

[cifglobalism11]

Video from the 2002 Season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDnQ4okRQT0

^Who is the CW QB at 3:40? (#16)

It is hard to make out the last names on the jerseys with this 02 video quality. The only one I know for sure is that #5 is Jose Rojas (definitely in the top 3 CW of all time)

Also who is #44 from CW, #50, and #34? From 3:40- 4:30 you can see all the aforementioned players. These guys look frustrated AF. I have never ever seen any frustration or hissy fit from CW ever. This just goes to show you how competition was actually intense that season (unlike 2004 lol)



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Video from the 2009 season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23rRvtfRQLQ

At 2:52 , The CW coach on the sideline slamming the fb on the ground after the offsides...
Is that Larry Brown? (Related to current HC Eric Brown)..if so what was he doing coaching freshman?

[cifglobalism11]

[TeddyKGB]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDnQ4okRQT0

I believe that is Centennial at 3:40

[TeddyKGB]

[izne1home]

I can't tell.  Looks like Saddian.  Low light video quality has taken leaps and bounds since then.

The ET was good.  Nothing but respect for the Tigers.  It is a legendary Fresno football program.

But..., the apparent frustration is underscored by the editing - sort of the whole point of the video.  I'm sure CW and the other ET opponents actually made some plays against the ET during the 2002 season.  They're just laying on the editing room floor somewhere. 

Now I can see why CW was in such a hurry to recruit Hartigan and get things turned around...

[izne1home]

[CWClassof2007]

I can't tell.  Looks like Saddian.  Low light video quality has taken leaps and bounds since then.

The ET was good.  Nothing but respect for the Tigers.  It is a legendary Fresno football program.

But..., the apparent frustration is underscored by the editing - sort of the whole point of the video.  I'm sure CW and the other ET opponents actually made some plays against the ET during the 2002 season.  They're just laying on the editing room floor somewhere. 

Now I can see why CW was in such a hurry to recruit Hartigan and get things turned around...

Pretty sure Clovis West got beat by Clovis in the 2002 championship game. That was my 8th grade year. I remember being at Kastner getting ready for a game the Saturday morning after. I can't find their schedule for anything before 2004.

[CWClassof2007]

[cifglobalism11]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDnQ4okRQT0

I believe that is Centennial at 3:40

The team colors are the same but Its CW Im 100% sure. for three reasons

1. The EAGLE WINGS on the helmet
2. #5 from the same team with those eagle wings says "rojas" on the  jersey
3. Centennial is actually at 3:17 in gold and white.

[cifglobalism11]

[cifglobalism11]

I can't tell.  Looks like Saddian..... Hartigan and get things turned around...

ok thanks, it may be, I also was thinking that it was some armenian last name. I just was not sure CW ever had an armenian QB during those Lombardi and Hartigan seasons. But if "Saddian" is a known player you recognize and anyone else can verify he was the QB, then it is probably him.

I agree with you that those are HIGHLIGHTs and that usually involves the opposing teams LOWLIGHTS. But the those players I was asking about give off frustration vibes. Rojas was not only amongst the best at CW but also in the section. If he was having a hard time with this, It was likely an issue with Lombardi (and/or staff) calling bad plays. This same season, CW lost to Edison and Central, and yes Lost to Clovis in the finals. While this Edison team won D2.

CW was not in a hurry to get anyone specific. They just needed to get someone does not matter who it was, Jim was just the perfect FB politician. hell, Marty or Lindsey could have won 04 title and went to the VC in 03.

This Edison team would have been much better than the teams Hartigan had to go against. They had a much better coach (Reyes), who was not a race baiter like that mcdonald lunatic.

When teams like this have GOOD COACHING that actually focus on FB and local players (and not race baiting to motivate your players), then it becomes harder for teams like CW and Clovis. But something else ALSO has to happen to make things harder, and that is a team like CW going through whatever they went through with Lombardi. So these TWO factors suck but they both dropped off after this season with Lombardi leaving and a good coach leaving Edison

From what I can asses.
Rojas, #44, #34, #50, and (maybe) Saddian are all good players (probably some of CW's best ever) who just got caught up in these TWO FACTORS.

The next season, Rojas actually made a huge comeback for CW in the Semi-finals to take Hartigan to the VC vs Murphy's CE and almost won it honestly. I do not know for sure, but based off the info I collected. . #44, #34, #50, and (maybe) Saddian had already graduated.

EDIT: So I may have a crazy idea who #44 may be, could it be Jordan Long as a sophmore?
#25 is also really good! hard to tell from a small highlight clip but seems like he didnt like he was taking  crap Edison.

[cifglobalism11]

[TeddyKGB]

who was not a race baiter like that mcdonald lunatic.

When teams like this have GOOD COACHING that actually focus on FB and local players (and not race baiting to motivate your players),

I can agree Reyes was an excellent coach...I had never heard that McDonald was a race baiter what exactly did he do to warrant these allegations?

[TeddyKGB]

[anthilllegend]

The QB is Jason Sadoian...who was the starter in both 2001 and 2002. He went on to play 1 year of baseball at FCC, before transferring to University of Arizona.  He then transferred again and finished his career playing baseball at the University of Nevada.  Jose Rojas is #5 (a hell of a football player). He is not one of the top 3 "backers" in Clovis West history.  Rojas played LB only one season (his sophomore year)...the Golden Eagle RB's were Quentin Brock and Brandon Hancock during his sophomore season.  He would be much higher ranked as a running back, which he played his junior and senior seasons. The Anthill believes Rojas sits 4th or 5th on the all time CW rushing list...behind Kendall Brock, Matt Jelmini, McKay Christensen and then either Rojas or Kyle Duffy would be 4th. Jose would fall in the top 5 or 6 RB's in school history...he went on to star at Cal Lutheran University.  If the Anthill's memory severs him well...Jose Rojas still holds the single game rushing record of 320 yards.  He set the record vs. the Central Grizzlies in 2003...coincidentally the only other 300+ yard rushing effort in CW history is by Kendall Brock in 2010 at 315 yard (and you guessed it, also against the Central Grizzle's).

The Anthilllegend

[anthilllegend]

[anthilllegend]

The Anthilllegend does not believe the coach throwing the football down in the video is Larry Brown.  The Ant is going to guess that the coach in question....last name was Shaw.
Also....the video of the freshman game between CW and CE, shows a CE freshman class completely dominating a undermanned and marginally skilled Golden Eagle team.  In fact....the CE frosh team is very impressive looking. Strange oddity: if this is the 2009 Timberwolves freshman (who look physical and gifted)...they were also the start of 7 or 8 consecutive seasons of TRAC football without victory.  Point: you can't always predict future success based on downline talent/production and outcomes....or a single film.

The Anthilllegend

[anthilllegend]

[CWClassof2007]

The Anthilllegend does not believe the coach throwing the football down in the video is Larry Brown.  The Ant is going to guess that the coach in question....last name was Shaw.
Also....the video of the freshman game between CW and CE, shows a CE freshman class completely dominating a undermanned and marginally skilled Golden Eagle team.  In fact....the CE frosh team is very impressive looking. Strange oddity: if this is the 2009 Timberwolves freshman (who look physical and gifted)...they were also the start of 7 or 8 consecutive seasons of TRAC football without victory.  Point: you can't always predict future success based on downline talent/production and outcomes....or a single film.

The Anthilllegend

Yes. Clovis East went 0-5 in the TRAC for 8 seasons in a row. Lost their first league game of the 2019 season & then beat Clovis North to end the streak at 41 consecutive games.

[CWClassof2007]

[Bronco]

Pretty sure Clovis West got beat by Clovis in the 2002 championship game. That was my 8th grade year. I remember being at Kastner getting ready for a game the Saturday morning after. I can't find their schedule for anything before 2004.

Yes they did ! Tyler Clutts led the Cougars back in the 4th to go ahead and then with 1:12 left Zack Follett picked of there last ditch effort ! ! Clovis WINS the 2002 Valley Championship

[Bronco]

[cifglobalism11]

I am going to reply by the order of whose post came first....

I can agree Reyes was an excellent coach...I had never heard that McDonald was a race baiter what exactly did he do to warrant these allegations?

I wouldn't say HE specifically did everything but more that he could have been the mastermind or just an obedient puppet that gave into it. but It is not something that would be broadcast, so you probably would not hear about it. You could only find out by being undeservingly caught in the mix. 4  cases to consider that formed this conclusion:

1. The posts on this forum in 2005 from "The DE's" dad. Which I am going to try and locate so I can fully answer your question by showing you the post that is short and sweet but gave a huge hint.
2. His relative  (#2) was the master race baiting troll at KIT, guys like him ARE THE ROOT CAUSE OF RACIAL TENSION
3. The traffic source of their players in that era
4. The composition of its staff

1. A former CW player (The DE) I knew, who was a very significant Defensive End. So significant I can GAURANTEE YOU that Izne, cw2007,anthill and all other CW guys here cheered him on at CW games and I can gaurantee you at some point or two, made the CW sidelines go crazy (joy and excitement) in critical situations. He is the currently the last and only CW FB player I have ever spoke to after I left. Little did I know that his dad actually posted here in 2005 and obviously is inactive. But one of his responses to a post was regarding the player #2 in the second case mentioned above. I am going to try and find this post to fully answer you. But the DE, I am sure was also recruited by Edison and probably #2's dad (whom is related to mc donald). Obviously the DE (or his dad) declined and good for them. I respect them so much for doing that and just staying in the CW area

2. His relative #2 went to KIT and man he went from that guy everyone likes and could never hate...to being the one of the most pathetic scums on this planet within a year...Out of nowhere he just starts accusing players at KIT of being racist. HE (#2) WAS BEING VERY RACIST HIMSELF. If an AA started chit with someone and that someone pushed back, #2 would jump in and defend the said AA even if the AA was the problem...why because he " was black". On top of that I kind of just realized that he always loved to be aggressive against Clark, Alta, and Teneya but was very passive against TJ (Madera), Rio Vista (Central's MS), and lets just say "more colored teams". What happened to #2? He went to Edison after KIT. Everyone already knew he was going to Edison way before the 8th grade year ended (in fall). So it was planned. Hmmm being a race baiter then going to play for a race baiting coaching staff

3.
HOW MANY OF EDISONS STRTING PLAYERS on the 04-08 TEAMS WERE ACTUALLY FROM THAT AREA?

Why would they transfer there. They took players from Buchanan, CW, Bullard, Clovis, and maybe more. How were they able to CONVINCE those players to relocate from their nice schools, with better FB teams, in better areas to go there? many of you will say that Edison's coaches promised them scholarships and that may be true but it could only be supplemental to a bigger driving factor. Through this forum I actually found out that the starting 04 QB is actually from BUCHANAN... wth? why would someone flee from education in the nice Buchanan area to go to school Edison area.

4. Zimmer once mentioned that Edison had 7 CW graduates coaching. 4 were on the freshman level and the other 3 scattered on JV and V. Coincidentally they all just happened to get jobs at Edison right?

The QB is Jason Sadoian...The Anthilllegend

The Anthilllegend does not believe the coach throwing the football down in the video is Larry Brown.  The Ant is going to guess that the coach in question....last name was Shaw.

The Anthilllegend

@anthilllegend
You know what I meant with Rojas. And you are suggesting that the coach in the freshman game film is IAN SHAW.  1an Shaw was fired from Kastner 6 years prior. Downright outsider who came into the CW athletic  community (along with Alex Smith, Art Francis, James Gambrell,  Jeff Roberts, etc..) and destroyed CW's Wrestling empire. So if that is him, then you can see why CW FB suffered the following years.

Yes they did !..... Clovis WINS the 2002 Valley Championship

@Bronco
You don't know how lucky you guys were that state playoffs was non existent in 2002.



So can anyone ID 25, 34, 44, and 50 from CW (original post video)?

[cifglobalism11]

[TeddyKGB]

I am going to reply by the order of whose post came first....


I wouldn't say HE specifically did everything but more that he could have been the mastermind or just an obedient puppet that gave into it. but It is not something that would be broadcast, so you probably would not hear about it. You could only find out by being undeservingly caught in the mix. 4  cases to consider that formed this conclusion:

It was at this point that I stopped reading this reply...it seems you conjure up theories and then formulate  to scenarios fit them. It concerns me that the state of California may have granted you a drivers license.

[TeddyKGB]

[ExCoach]

[ExCoach]

[TeddyKGB]

CIFGLOBALISM11....

[TeddyKGB]

[cifglobalism11]

@excoach

Do you have anything useful to post?

everyone..I know what teddykgb is trying to do. He did in fact read the 4 cases and knowing how intense the subject is he is insinuating that everything I said is nonfactual so everyone would disregard it. Obviously you can't handle a case of complicity like this

[cifglobalism11]

[ExCoach]

@excoach

Do you have anything useful to post?

I'm sorry, I don't dwell on the state of middle school and JV football from 20 years ago and Kastner/Clovis West's involvement in inter-district racially motivated conspiracy theories that may or may not be orchestrated by the Catholic church.

[ExCoach]

[cifglobalism11]

I'm sorry, I don't dwell on the state of middle school and JV football from 20 years ago and Kastner/Clovis West's involvement in inter-district racially motivated conspiracy theories that may or may not be orchestrated by the Catholic church.

Ok? neither do I, what's your point?

[cifglobalism11]

[ExCoach]

Ok? neither do I, what's your point?

I have a serious question then. Why do you spend so much time and energy analyzing, watching film on, discussing high school football from 20 years ago? There must be something you are caught up on.

[ExCoach]

[cifglobalism11]

I have a serious question then. Why do you spend so much time and energy analyzing, watching film on, discussing high school football from 20 years ago? There must be something you are caught up on.

I have a serious question then. Why do you spend so much time and energy analyzing, watching film on, discussing high school football from 20 years ago? There must be something you are caught up on.

To get answers. It is kind of hard to explain so I'll make an analogical example

The FB is just a part (a big one, and not even the biggest part) of something very episodic. Or a Bible ( no pun intended) that only 1/4 was read and the rest of the pages were torn out.
I need to recover the rest of the episodes or the rest of the pages.

Why do I need them? Because possibly it could partially undo years worth of uncertainty, uncertainty in training/coaching/prepping, social uncertainty, darkness etc. and the unbinding can yield accurate guidance of what is the right way to do things and the wrong way to do things.

I am going to ask the Clovis boys on here a question about a certain group, and yes it will involve the wordss "middle school" in it, but if they can get the inside info on it, I am sure not only I can benefit from it but many other coaches will to (if they actually have the desire to turn there program into a top contender and not some league filler that thinks Clovis North is immortal )

[cifglobalism11]

[Bronco]

 You don't know how lucky you are that I DO NOT give a shi+ about what a full blown IDIOT like you thinks about me or how lucky I am or ANYTHING else in your messed up mind. CLOVIS FOOTBALL 2002 VALLEY CHAMPS - and beat the c-dub golden sparrows TWICE ! ! ! doing it : ) )

[Bronco]

[Bronco]

 And if you want to talk about RINGS - I got WAY more then your crying little Ninnie butt . Accomplish something in your life before you try to tear down  something that someone else spent there whole life  working to get done !! In other words -Grow Up  little boy.

[Bronco]

[cifglobalism11]

Too much Whiskey tonight?

You don't know how lucky you are that I DO NOT give a shi+

Ok enlighten me, how lucky am I? and if you do not give a crap, why did you take the time to post one reply, log out and then log back in to post a second reply.

and beat the c-dub golden sparrows TWICE ! ! ! doing it : ) )

Coach, I have watched your interview of you discussing your own experience coaching against the CW golden sparrows in the early 90s. Not sure what the point of that is or where this came from, but I wish you and your staff went into the 04 season with his vibe.

CLOVIS FOOTBALL 2002 VALLEY CHAMPS

You know what is sad coach, is how bad the program went down after that and the worst part is you had what could have been the best class in Clovis history that could have actually had a chance a brining a state title back to Clovis and CUSD, and somehow your program managed to make that class disappear like evaporating dust before they even came into the program. but I wont talk about state title or state play off's. Instead this video can do the talking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gZ2oAoc-80

Is that you on the sidelines in disbelief of that is going on? Although I respect you actually are not denying this game ever happened unlike that lady from your program who deleted stream on maxpreps (pursuing victory with honor....)

And if you want to talk about RINGS...

I never mentioned anything about any rings, so I do not know why you are saying this. It is actually the previous thread from a Clovis (that you may have coached) guy that posted the rings topic. So say whatever you want to him

[cifglobalism11]

[Bronco]

 I guess you are right , I must give a crap after all. I just got a little put out when you seemed to knock something I put my life work into - you must have hit a nerve. As for the Clovis West Golden Eagles . I have all the respect in the world for them. I got to coach for 38 years & St Paul Mater Dei  Bakersfield & Clovis West were by far the very best Programs on a consistent basis. During those decades As for the Cougar decline , Im not happy about that but no longer have much control over it . In 2007 I went to help start the Program at Clovis North. Still root for both the Cougars & the Broncos though.

[Bronco]

[cifglobalism11]

when you seemed to knock something I put my life work into.

WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO!?!?!?!?

And just FYI. There is a CW that you should respect (as you clearly do) and a CW that you should never.

[cifglobalism11]

[TeddyKGB]

WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO!?!?!?!?

And just FYI. There is a CW that you should respect (as you clearly do) and a CW that you should never.

lower your tone numbnuts Bronco has earned respect to not have anyone yelling at him. I can assure you you'd never raise your voice to him in front of him.

[TeddyKGB]

[izne1home]

WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO!?!?!?!?

gas·light
verb: to manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.

gaslighting
noun: psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator.

Guys like Trump are masterful gaslighters.  I'm not even sure CIF knows he's doing it. 

[izne1home]

[TeddyKGB]

verb: to manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.

gaslighting
noun: psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator.[/i]

 I'm not even sure CIF knows he's doing it. 

no he is genuinely confused because he doesn't know in which direction he is going...now that I think about izne you've used that gaslighting tactic on me on a number of occasions...

[TeddyKGB]

[cifglobalism11]

lower your tone numbnuts Bronco has earned respect to not have anyone yelling at him. I can assure you you'd never raise your voice to him in front of him.

lower my tone? You assume that because I made the text size larger than normal that it is the equivalent to yelling in a rude tone. And I think that kind pattern of mis-interpretation and misunderstanding is similar to @bronco misunderstanding something (which I still do not know what that something is). Now to actually get you on par, a larger text size signifies the expression when one has reacted with such surprise.

gas·light...... I'm not even sure CIF knows he's doing it. 

So I just manipulated someone? I do not understand where this response comes from. Please clarify, because right now all I am understanding is that you are accusing me of gaslighting and I am not sure the guys on this forum can even be gaslighted.

[cifglobalism11]

[izne1home]

So I just manipulated someone? I do not understand where this response comes from. Please clarify, because right now all I am understanding is that you are accusing me of gaslighting and I am not sure the guys on this forum can even be gaslighted.

Like this. If someone accuses you of gaslighting, and you react with disbelief, questioning the reasoning skills of the listener, you might be gaslighting. 

[izne1home]

[cifglobalism11]

Like this. If someone accuses you of gaslighting, and you react with disbelief, questioning the reasoning skills of the listener, you might be gaslighting. 

All I did was ask him why (from what) he thought I knocked something he has worked a long time for. I still do now know why he said that or how he got worked up. But I bet as usual, something was misinterpreted and thus the interpreter did not clarify.

but while it is still a mystery at least he did something CW FB players (and softball players) could never do and express himself.

[cifglobalism11]

[TeddyKGB]

lower my tone? You assume that because I made the text size larger than normal that it is the equivalent to yelling in a rude tone.

dude you are really this dumb? It is a wildly accepted and understood practice that capital letters in text is shouting.

Messages completely in capital letters are often equated on social media to shouting and other impolite or argumentative behaviors. This became a mainstream interpretation with the advent of networked computers, from the 1980s onward.

Lifewire.com: Writing in all capital letters ("all caps") is often interpreted as shouting, and is therefore discouraged.

[TeddyKGB]

[Timmy Winn]

All I did was ask him why (from what) he thought I knocked something he has worked a long time for. I still do now know why he said that or how he got worked up. But I bet as usual, something was misinterpreted and thus the interpreter did not clarify.

but while it is still a mystery at least he did something CW FB players (and softball players) could never do and express himself.

You diminished his 2002 championship by saying he's lucky there weren't state playoffs. Insinuating that his team would have lost against competition outside of the valley. Bronco deserves respect for the countless hours of work he did advancing football in Clovis. The man is a legend treat him accordingly. And quit with the 'what did I say' nonsense. It's clear to everyone you were attempting to insult him and diminish his achievements.

[Timmy Winn]

[CWClassof2007]

We really need to stop engaging with him & just let him spew his nonsense into the void.

[CWClassof2007]

[izne1home]

lower my tone? You assume that because I made the text size larger than normal that it is the equivalent to yelling in a rude tone.

Gaslighting. 

[izne1home]

[TeddyKGB]

it is starting to become more and more clear why the guys on the CW team pummeled him, and why he saw himself as a faultless victim

[TeddyKGB]

[izne1home]

I am not sure the guys on this forum can even be gaslighted.

You are right.  There is a certain level of vulnerability and naivete required to be gaslit. Guys around here are all pretty focused and sniff out BS pretty quick.

[izne1home]

[cifglobalism11]

We really need to stop engaging with him & just let him spew his nonsense into the void.

"We"? ...dude stop acting you are apart of these guys. All you are is some CW cheerleader that talked trash when you were sure 100% your posy was in control, but when things got uncertain...you got pretty damn quiet. IE: 2006 VC and much more. Your trash talking on the field and on the mat is the real nonsense.

You diminished his 2002 championship by saying he's lucky there weren't state playoffs. Insinuating that his team would have lost against competition outside of the valley. Bronco deserves respect for the countless hours of work he did advancing football in Clovis. The man is a legend treat him accordingly. And quit with the 'what did I say' nonsense. It's clear to everyone you were attempting to insult him and diminish his achievements.

@Timmy Winn

Ok, thanks for clarifying (unlike the others), But there is a couple things wrong here.
This is exactly what I said so go back and read it:

@Bronco
You don't know how lucky you guys were that state playoffs was non existent in 2002.

"You don't know how lucky you guys were that state playoffs was non existent in 2002"

Tell me how "you guys" is an insult towards one person. It is a team effort, team response, and a team/program as the recipient. 

So No, I did not know exactly what he was referring to because I never directed anything SPECIFICALLY AT HIM. And you want to talk about respect? Go up to frances, Zimmer, Smith, and Soaras and tell them to respect. Because they (and many more) have trashed your community, alma mater, coaches and their overall image so bad they should have been evaluated by the district office for their claims and banter. And guess what? your alma mater let them do it and got spanked by them for 10+ years in a row. So If you want to propose respect towards an individual coach that is neutrally fair but Don't ask for respect towards a program that becomes inferior and constantly loses to a whole athletic community full of jackasses (in many sports, CW 03-2010) of whom patronize vandalism, race baiting, defamation, cheating.

Now with regards to my comment and @Bronco..he obviously does not have too much time to be following all posts on here, but if he did he would know that I direct this same message towards any team what won a VC between 02 and 06.

Including my own team about the 04 season
I have told the CE fanboys that their 06 team were not the best in the state and they evaded being exposed
I told the BHS fanboys their 05 and 07 teams were not the best in the state and they evaded being exposed
There is an angry DLS fanboy out there because I have made my view view clear that DLS was never the #1 program in the nation except that they actually ended up getting exposed (by a group of jackasses)

Why? because I know it and I have provided evidence

so @Bronco don't take things personal. Put Myself, You, and Hartigan in a room and you will really witness what it is like to be knocked and insulted by a former CUSD player, except you will be the one sitting back with some popcorn being entertained.

and @Timmy Winn If these guys do not like this admonition then they should get a whistle, get some FBI prints, fill out some forms, and go help your local team prove it wrong. Otherwise they should just STFU.

[cifglobalism11]

[TeddyKGB]

@Timmy Winn

Ok, thanks for clarifying (unlike the others), But there is a couple things wrong here.
This is exactly what I said so go back and read it:

You can't make this sheet up!!!

I'm no psychologist but there has to be a term for this type of behavior:

CIF: whadd I do?

Timmy: You insulted a guy whos coached over 30 years, is well respected

CIF: oh ok, you're wrong.

[TeddyKGB]

[CleverUserName]

You can't make this sheet up!!!

I'm no psychologist but there has to be a term for this type of behavior:

CIF: whadd I do?

Timmy: You insulted a guy whos coached over 30 years, is well respected

CIF: oh ok, you're wrong.

Some men, you just can't reach...

[CleverUserName]

[TeddyKGB]

Some men, you just can't reach...

when one make up his own reality as one go along and bend it to what suits him he can't be reached...

[TeddyKGB]

[CWClassof2007]

"We"? ...dude stop acting you are apart of these guys. All you are is some CW cheerleader that talked trash when you were sure 100% your posy was in control, but when things got uncertain...you got pretty damn quiet. IE: 2006 VC and much more. Your trash talking on the field and on the mat is the real nonsense.

You have no idea who I am. Nobody knows who you are. It's time to let go of things that happened to you 17 to 23 years ago. Your life will be better for it.

[CWClassof2007]

[ExCoach]

Some men, you just can't reach...

"So you get what we had here last week -- which is the way he wants it.

Well, he gets it."

[ExCoach]

[cifglobalism11]

@CleverUserName , @TeddKGB,

ME: *Plural statement directed towards multiple*
Timmy Winn: *directed towards a single person*
Me: *Gives an explanation open to rebuttal*
Teddy *wont bother to rebuttal the explanation and instead just claims steadfast adherance*

Clever: *hmm ill join in*

You guys want to consider a second-plural to be towards a singular person?.... ok fine. In your silly world where you are the champions and better than anyone else and right about everything, I have insulted one man and I apologize. There you happy?

Now go make your teams better (that Cougar avatar...) instead of going back and forth with a moron like me right?

@CWClassof2007
You Don't know what you do not know

There could be a possibility this man just put 2007 at the end of his username to conceal his real graduating class thus remaining more concealed. But if he is in fact an 07 grad, then I have him narrowed down to two categories with a combined < 5 individuals. In category one he is a transfer that would not know me and I would not know him thus never had any contact with him which is why the info I share may be unbelievable to him

The remaining guys in category 2, are ones I DO KNOW but actually I have nothing against and actually minded their business as much as possible but still associated themselves with and supported the biggest group of scum you will find at any high school campus in any point in history. But I still do not have anything against him

and FYI Just want to say that I have nothing against Thiessen (I never did BB) or how his program was ran. So  accept the fact that there are things we have in common. 

But if the 2007 part in his username is in fact deceiving, then sh*t everything I just explained is moot and now maybe some of you can get why guys from this community can't be trusted. (and yes he would be right my clues to whom he would be is a mess not worth dealing with)


 

[cifglobalism11]

[TeddyKGB]

Teddy *wont bother to rebuttal the explanation and instead just claims steadfast adherance*

why offer a rebuttal, above I just sited your inability to recognize when your do the very thing you get told you're doing. In your mind you are always justified in saying what you say and when a contrary comment is made you become defensive tell the person they're wrong and explain why inside your head they are wrong.

[TeddyKGB]

[cifglobalism11]

why offer a rebuttal, above I just sited your inability to recognize when your do the very thing you get told you're doing. In your mind you are always justified in saying what you say and when a contrary comment is made you become defensive tell the person they're wrong and explain why inside your head they are wrong.

you cited that I was fainting ignorance. I was aware he was mad at my comment, the part where he stated that I seemed to "knock" down something that he has worked a long time (in his ancillary response) for is what made me need to clarify. Why? Because Clovis has won multiple VC's prior to 2002 which involve him.

[cifglobalism11]

[TeddyKGB]

you cited that I was fainting ignorance.

you omit or conveniently have forgot where it was pointed out to you that you insulted Bronco, by Timmy, to which you said I see...but you're wrong. Then I pointed out that all caps in type/text is considered shouting to which you said no its not...so there is not sense if rebuttals because in your mind you are justified in saying whatever stupid thing you find to be right.

[TeddyKGB]

[izne1home]

you cited that I was fainting ignorance.

[izne1home]