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Started by 49ers26, September 16, 2013, 07:23:21 AM

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49ers26

Can a 1 dimensional team win a valley championship?

49ers26


TeddyKGB

yes. Clovis East won running the Double Wing and BHS won the D1 title and didn't throw 1 pass in the championship game. I believe the 1 dimensional team better have a rock solid Defense if they are 1 dimensional.

TeddyKGB


Coach Scudder

Hey 49ers26,

Porterville is not one dimensional, however, we have been run heavy so far this early part of the season.  Your brother is our best receiver and cover guy.  When we need to pass, he will continue to be our first target.  You should be happy that your brother is on an undefeated team and has contributed GREATLY to help get us there.  Instead of questioning why he doesn't get the ball more, why not celebrate the fact that he is a GREAT player/kid on a good football team?

Coach Scudder


TeddyKGB

Wait a minute, I didn't know that this thread was started as a passive-aggressive attempt to bash a coaching staff because someone feels their relative isn't being showcased enough or getting the ball enough. If that's the case as Scudder is saying 49ers you have no clue as to what it takes to win football games. Scudder ignor that bonehead and keep doing what your doing good luck with the rest of your season!

TeddyKGB


flexmac3

Quote from: Coach Scudder on September 16, 2013, 09:09:22 AM
Hey 49ers26,

Porterville is not one dimensional, however, we have been run heavy so far this early part of the season.  Your brother is our best receiver and cover guy.  When we need to pass, he will continue to be our first target.  You should be happy that your brother is on an undefeated team and has contributed GREATLY to help get us there.  Instead of questioning why he doesn't get the ball more, why not celebrate the fact that he is a GREAT player/kid on a good football team?
Great Post, all of a sudden, I have extented my support, it now starts in Poterville and ends in the south valley.

flexmac3


izne1home

Quote from: Coach Scudder on September 16, 2013, 09:09:22 AM
Hey 49ers26,

Porterville is not one dimensional, however, we have been run heavy so far this early part of the season.  Your brother is our best receiver and cover guy.  When we need to pass, he will continue to be our first target.  You should be happy that your brother is on an undefeated team and has contributed GREATLY to help get us there.  Instead of questioning why he doesn't get the ball more, why not celebrate the fact that he is a GREAT player/kid on a good football team?

Post of the Year nominee. 

izne1home


EMERALD GREEN

STOP BEING SELFISH!! YOUR TEAM IS 3-0!!

EMERALD GREEN


Bronco

Quote from: Coach Scudder on September 16, 2013, 09:09:22 AM
Hey 49ers26,

Porterville is not one dimensional, however, we have been run heavy so far this early part of the season.  Your brother is our best receiver and cover guy.  When we need to pass, he will continue to be our first target.  You should be happy that your brother is on an undefeated team and has contributed GREATLY to help get us there.  Instead of questioning why he doesn't get the ball more, why not celebrate the fact that he is a GREAT player/kid on a good football team?
Way to stay POSITIVE in the face of selfishness Coach  :u:  :u:  :u:

Bronco


hanfordfootball

49ers26, you should change your handle to Raiders26. Because you sound like a raiders fan...lol

hanfordfootball


BRONCO2015

Quote from: Coach Scudder on September 16, 2013, 09:09:22 AM
Hey 49ers26,

Porterville is not one dimensional, however, we have been run heavy so far this early part of the season.  Your brother is our best receiver and cover guy.  When we need to pass, he will continue to be our first target.  You should be happy that your brother is on an undefeated team and has contributed GREATLY to help get us there.  Instead of questioning why he doesn't get the ball more, why not celebrate the fact that he is a GREAT player/kid on a good football team?

Quote from: izne1home on September 16, 2013, 01:29:29 PM
Post of the Year nominee. 

Along with this one. Loved this post. Straight up, no nonsense. :u:

Quote from: Coach V on September 10, 2013, 01:13:52 AM
Football Freak, Our coaching staff has put in many hours to uphold the Coalinga traditions set by those before us. I believe that Carlos McCaleb was an outstanding coach along with Eric Jensen, Pooh Watson, Ryan Reed and Kent Nash. I had the honor of coaching with those guys last year as they opted  to spend more time with their families and outdoors activities after 3 years at the helm.
     I hired Kent Nash as defensive coordinator and Pooh Watson as a linebackers coach from that staff along former Coalinga alums Kale Bordeau and Jake Zubiri while Gary Howard moved up to the College.    I normally don't post in season because I enjoy the the grind but come on! after a hard fought game with a group of young players and a new developing staff that works their A double snakes's off I think that it is premature to label their efforts after a single contest that you heard about.

   I invite you to come to practice and see the work our guys are putting in and the hours of conditioning the boys are putting in to emerge from the shadows of the Alvarado Era in Coalinga. After all, we all worked hard to have a 9-3 season last year with only six returning players and knowing that each year is a different dynamic of players and coaching philosophy to match talent.    Let our staff and the boys find their stride and I hope that you see their character shine to make Coalinga proud as winners in the classroom, better men,  and on the field in a program we are building to include all levels of CHS football.

As for me, you can question my efforts all you want. After twenty three years of coaching I have found that criticism goes with the territory and all we can do is to work harder to achieve our goals and pass on those traits to the kids as lifelong lessons.

Our kids are going to rise, PM me if you would like to take me up on my offer. Our staff kids coached and played hard and hit very well but made a few mistakes in a close game, so cheer them on rather then condemn them!!!
Respectfully

Coach V

 
Why do they use costly new sterile needles to give a lethal injection? Really. Just save the same friggin' needle.

BRONCO2015

Why do they use costly new sterile needles to give a lethal injection? Really. Just save the same friggin' needle.

Division IV Junkie

This is the best "you got busted" post of the year so far!

Hope the kid playing isn't as selfish as the poster!
I have a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!

Division IV Junkie

I have a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!

Darth Backer

Just goes to show, you can score 60 points a game and someone in the stands is still pissed off.

Darth Backer


Ballcoach

I wonder what 49ers26 was going to do with all the "expected" responses he was going to receive.  Were you going to start a poll on this thread and then gather up your data and report out to coach Scudder & the AD about why a supposedly one dimensional offense can't win a championship??  C'Mon Man!!!! lol  Plain and simple is that "better" wins.  Ride your horses as far as they will take you.  I guarantee you without that fabulous running game that the passing game alone isn't going to win you a league title much less a valley championship. You can better support your team by buying a home game ticket and dropping a 20 spot at the concession stands. Quit trying to do the coach's job, this ain't pop warner. So zip it and sit back and enjoy the fireworks. 

Ballcoach


Bronco

Quote from: Ballcoach on September 17, 2013, 06:25:24 AM
I wonder what 49ers26 was going to do with all the "expected" responses he was going to receive.  Were you going to start a poll on this thread and then gather up your data and report out to coach Scudder & the AD about why a supposedly one dimensional offense can't win a championship??  C'Mon Man!!!! lol  Plain and simple is that "better" wins.  Ride your horses as far as they will take you.  I guarantee you without that fabulous running game that the passing game alone isn't going to win you a league title much less a valley championship. You can better support your team by buying a home game ticket and dropping a 20 spot at the concession stands. Quit trying to do the coach's job, this ain't pop warner. So zip it and sit back and enjoy the fireworks. 
:u: :u:  :D

Bronco


CDBass

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!

CDBass


CHSTOAD

Interesting responses to the OP. So now  no one can ask a question...no matter how pointed?

I don't know the kid, but as a former coach I would have found a better way to get my message to the poster than calling him out on a supposed anonymous message board. Sorry Coach, IMO, Bad form.  You have better things to do during the season than worrying about naysayers.

I personally don't care if he has an axe to grind.  Hell we all do. When I was coaching I used to get criticized for not throwing the ball more.  I lived by Woody Hayes motto "three things can happen on a pass play and two of them are bad".

So to tag onto Teddys reply...yes you can, but you better have a great "D"

Your opinion may vary

CHSTOAD


Coach Scudder

Quote from: CHSTOAD on September 17, 2013, 04:16:07 PM
Interesting responses to the OP. So now  no one can ask a question...no matter how pointed?

I don't know the kid, but as a former coach I would have found a better way to get my message to the poster than calling him out on a supposed anonymous message board. Sorry Coach, IMO, Bad form.  You have better things to do during the season than worrying about naysayers.

I personally don't care if he has an axe to grind.  Hell we all do. When I was coaching I used to get criticized for not throwing the ball more.  I lived by Woody Hayes motto "three things can happen on a pass play and two of them are bad".

So to tag onto Teddys reply...yes you can, but you better have a great "D"

Your opinion may vary

I don't have a problem with the question, no matter how loaded it was.  I would have preferred that he come talk to me personally instead of posting here.  I simply gave him an answer he didn't want or expect.

Coach Scudder


TeddyKGB

Scudder, my personal opinion only, you don't have to justify what you're doing to a fan, sibling, friend or relative of a player. Even if he did come and talk to you, he would never accept the answer(s) you gave him. Keep doing what you're doing, it's obvious from what you are doing and what your predecessor did you guys want to build a program not highlight one kid for one season. Good Luck with the rest of your season.

TeddyKGB


Coach Scudder

Quote from: TeddyKGB on September 18, 2013, 08:34:48 AM
Scudder, my personal opinion only, you don't have to justify what you're doing to a fan, sibling, friend or relative of a player. Even if he did come and talk to you, he would never accept the answer(s) you gave him. Keep doing what you're doing, it's obvious from what you are doing and what your predecessor did you guys want to build a program not highlight one kid for one season. Good Luck with the rest of your season.

Thanks Teddy,

This issue is NOT going to change what we do here at PHS.  With the number of quality players we have, the hard part/blessing is spreading the ball around.  Besides, the only person I have to justify myself to is my wife!! :shy:

Coach Scudder


erstwhile

Its always easier to "coach" from the stands. No one second guesses you, and you don't have to deal with people who think you're impeding their chlld's path to D1 or the NFL.  Coach, do what you do, its your team to coach. Let the chips fall where they may.

erstwhile


cdubkiller

In reference to whether a team can win a championship being only one dimension like the Clovis East team Teddy mentioned above, I say yes, but only if that team has a very good defense. I bet if you look back at most all of the championship teams of the past, they have had a great defense as well. If they didn't, then that offense was probably multidimensional and could light up the scoreboard in order to make up for the lack of defense. JMO  :u:
Friday Night Fever!!!

cdubkiller

Friday Night Fever!!!

Team Silver Tongue

Quote from: cdubkiller on September 19, 2013, 11:41:23 AM
In reference to whether a team can win a championship being only one dimension like the Clovis East team Teddy mentioned above, I say yes, but only if that team has a very good defense. I bet if you look back at most all of the championship teams of the past, they have had a great defense as well. If they didn't, then that offense was probably multidimensional and could light up the scoreboard in order to make up for the lack of defense. JMO  :u:

So you're saying exactly what Teddy said? . . .  :huh: :huh:

"yes. Clovis East won running the Double Wing and BHS won the D1 title and didn't throw 1 pass in the championship game. I believe the 1 dimensional team better have a rock solid Defense if they are 1 dimensional."
"You know, fightin' in a basement offers a lot of difficulties. Number one being, you're fightin' in a basement!"

Team Silver Tongue

"You know, fightin' in a basement offers a lot of difficulties. Number one being, you're fightin' in a basement!"

BRONCO2015

Quote from: Team Silver Tongue on September 19, 2013, 11:51:01 AM
So you're saying exactly what Teddy said? . . .  :huh: :huh:

"yes. Clovis East won running the Double Wing and BHS won the D1 title and didn't throw 1 pass in the championship game. I believe the 1 dimensional team better have a rock solid Defense if they are 1 dimensional."

The light is slowly dawning on CVHSPreps.... That Tedster is a frickin' genius! It's about time...  ;)

Why do they use costly new sterile needles to give a lethal injection? Really. Just save the same friggin' needle.

BRONCO2015

Why do they use costly new sterile needles to give a lethal injection? Really. Just save the same friggin' needle.

TeddyKGB

Quote from: BRONCO2015 on September 19, 2013, 12:32:14 PM
The light is slowly dawning on CVHSPreps.... That Tedster is a frickin' genius! It's about time...  ;)



I knew they'd come around... they always come around  :)-

TeddyKGB


izne1home

Quote from: TeddyKGB on September 19, 2013, 01:51:42 PM
I knew they'd come around... they always come around  :)-

That's what you said the night you chloroformed those old ladies.

izne1home


TeddyKGB

they woke up just like I said they would! They may never be the same again...but they woke up!

TeddyKGB


Flamingo

With today's leaders (Obama) we really should look at stopping championships and give all the kids participation trophies.

This would then help coaches keep their jobs, parents wouldn't have to live their lives through their kids and kids wouldn't cry at the end of the game.

Now wouldn't that be so much nicer....


Flamingo


cdubkiller

Quote from: Team Silver Tongue on September 19, 2013, 11:51:01 AM
So you're saying exactly what Teddy said? . . .  :huh: :huh:

"yes. Clovis East won running the Double Wing and BHS won the D1 title and didn't throw 1 pass in the championship game. I believe the 1 dimensional team better have a rock solid Defense if they are 1 dimensional."

Sorry, I missed that post. My bad guys, don't hold it against me!  :D
Friday Night Fever!!!

cdubkiller

Friday Night Fever!!!

TeddyKGB

Cdub, anytime you say exact what I said you can be sure
That you are saying is correct!

TeddyKGB


izne1home

Quote from: TeddyKGB on September 19, 2013, 05:38:47 PM
they woke up just like I said they would! They may never be the same again...but they woke up!

I'm just glad I was across the state line heading west on I-15 about 105 mph when they came to. 

izne1home


bigfan

Quote from: Flamingo on September 19, 2013, 08:25:41 PM
With today's leaders (Obama) we really should look at stopping championships and give all the kids participation trophies.

This would then help coaches keep their jobs, parents wouldn't have to live their lives through their kids and kids wouldn't cry at the end of the game.

Now wouldn't that be so much nicer....



Kinda like what our NAVY is now doing...

Subject:  New Class of Destroyers Names Announced

The first to be commissioned will be the USS Cautious and the USS Prudent.--

The next five ships are to be USS Empathy, USS Circumspect, USS Nervous, USS Timorous and USS Apologist.
Costing $850 million each they comply with the very latest employment, equality, health and safety and human rights laws.

The U.S. Navy fully expects any future enemy to be decent and to comply with the same high standards of our behavior.
Live ammunition has been replaced with paint balls to reduce the risk of anyone getting hurt and to cut down on the number of compensation claims.
Stress counselors and lawyers will be on board, as will a union representative for each of the trades on board.

The crew will be 50%/50% men and women and will contain the correct balance of race, gender, sexuality and disability.

Sailors will only work a maximum of 40 hours per week as per union rules on working hours, time and a half for overtime and double time on Sundays and holidays, even in wartime.

All the vessels are equipped with a maternity ward.

Tobacco will be banned throughout the ship, but recreational cannabis will be allowed in wardrooms and messes.

Saluting of officers is now considered elitist and has been replaced by "Hi Sailor".

All information on notice boards will be in 37 different languages.

A majority of Senators have suggested a "non-specific" flag because the current "Stars and Stripes" may offend some Nations during port calls.

The newly re-named USS Cautious will be commissioned shortly by a Muslim cleric from the Washington DC Mosque.
As she will gently slide into the sea the Marines Corp Band will play "In the Navy" by the Village People.
Her first deployment will be to escort boatloads of illegal immigrants to ports on the East coast.

The President said, "Our ships reflect the very latest in modern thinking and they will always be able to comply with any new legislation from the U.N."
His final words were, "I told you there would be "CHANGE!"





Service to others is the rent you pay for your room here on earth.

bigfan

Service to others is the rent you pay for your room here on earth.

BRONCO2015

#31
Quote from: bigfan on September 20, 2013, 01:49:37 PM
Kinda like what our NAVY is now doing...

Subject:  New Class of Destroyers Names Announced

This is the worst news I've heard since... Well since back in 2000. Heartbreaking...  :cry:

Why do they use costly new sterile needles to give a lethal injection? Really. Just save the same friggin' needle.

BRONCO2015

#31
Why do they use costly new sterile needles to give a lethal injection? Really. Just save the same friggin' needle.

Flamingo

Quote from: bigfan on September 20, 2013, 01:49:37 PM
Kinda like what our NAVY is now doing...

Subject:  New Class of Destroyers Names Announced

The first to be commissioned will be the USS Cautious and the USS Prudent.--

The next five ships are to be USS Empathy, USS Circumspect, USS Nervous, USS Timorous and USS Apologist.
Costing $850 million each they comply with the very latest employment, equality, health and safety and human rights laws.

The U.S. Navy fully expects any future enemy to be decent and to comply with the same high standards of our behavior.
Live ammunition has been replaced with paint balls to reduce the risk of anyone getting hurt and to cut down on the number of compensation claims.
Stress counselors and lawyers will be on board, as will a union representative for each of the trades on board.

The crew will be 50%/50% men and women and will contain the correct balance of race, gender, sexuality and disability.

Sailors will only work a maximum of 40 hours per week as per union rules on working hours, time and a half for overtime and double time on Sundays and holidays, even in wartime.

All the vessels are equipped with a maternity ward.

Tobacco will be banned throughout the ship, but recreational cannabis will be allowed in wardrooms and messes.

Saluting of officers is now considered elitist and has been replaced by "Hi Sailor".

All information on notice boards will be in 37 different languages.

A majority of Senators have suggested a "non-specific" flag because the current "Stars and Stripes" may offend some Nations during port calls.

The newly re-named USS Cautious will be commissioned shortly by a Muslim cleric from the Washington DC Mosque.
As she will gently slide into the sea the Marines Corp Band will play "In the Navy" by the Village People.
Her first deployment will be to escort boatloads of illegal immigrants to ports on the East coast.

The President said, "Our ships reflect the very latest in modern thinking and they will always be able to comply with any new legislation from the U.N."
His final words were, "I told you there would be "CHANGE!"






BIGfan I agree with one of those
Her first deployment will be to escort boatloads of illegal immigrants to ports on the East coast
LOL

Flamingo