Who is the best of the worst?

[izne1home]

Who will be given the privilege of running into the Trump meat grinder for the next several months? 

[Spazzilla]

Just looking at the lay of the land, I feel that Sanders will be the front runner and I expect him to have a plurality of delegates come the Democratic convention.  But, I don't see him having a majority of Delegates, which means the super-delegates will choose the nominee, which means someone else will be the nominee, likely a more centrist candidate, or a wild card; Buttedgedge, Bloomberg, Clinton or M. Obama.

[Coastfan]

I definitely can see your line of thinking Sergio and would not even bet against that scenario from happening.  Yet, I think we are set up for Trump v. Sanders 2020 national election.  I would bill it as two diametrically opposed worldviews colliding, but I really can't nail down Trump's worldview; his is certainly unique :) 

On another note, because the moderators can't pick up on a hot topic when it hits them in the face, I was really hoping for Sanders and Buttigieg to go back and forth over Sanders' socialist ideology.  Sanders proceeded to rattle off how the topics were not radical (on their face: healthcare for all, inequality in the prison systems, etc.) and while I agree they are not radical topics, I would have loved to hear Gay Pete discuss why Sanders takes those ideas and turns them into radical ideas based on his radical approach to solving them.  Oh well, maybe the next debate, enough Twittersphere people picked up on that and can implore the next moderators to drill down on Sanders' radical ideology.

[eylchamps]

Bloomberg will get the nod. Sanders will get burnt again. He is not a Dem, he's an independent and that will be the DNC's reasoning for screwing him over. That will be fun to watch, the Sanders followers melting down on TV.
On the other side, we have a big government moderate Dem as the GOP candidate.
So, we will have two NYC liberals on the ballot. We will pick the best liberal to run the country.
Or I should say, you all have two liberals to pick from, I vote third party.

[izne1home]

Just looking at the lay of the land, I feel that Sanders will be the front runner and I expect him to have a plurality of delegates come the Democratic convention.  But, I don't see him having a majority of Delegates, which means the super-delegates will choose the nominee, which means someone else will be the nominee, likely a more centrist candidate, or a wild card; Buttedgedge, Bloomberg, Clinton or M. Obama.

As I understand it, if no Democrat candidate has a majority of pledged delegates on the first vote, it's wide open on the second and following ballots.  The pledged delegates are no longer pledged and the super delegates start throwing their considerable weight around to ultimately nominate anyone they want.   

In essence, unless the people can establish a clear frontrunner with a majority of pledged delegates during the primaries, they just leave it to the establishment to choose a nominee. 

Eyl is right.  Watching the Sanders supporter snowflakes melting down will be epic.

[eylchamps]

Eyl is right.  Watching the Sanders supporter snowflakes melting down will be epic.

Get your popcorn and diet Pepsi ready.

[chingata]

Sanders will get the Democrat nomination and he will beat Trump.  Too many people in this country want free stuff. 

[Bronco]

Sanders will get the Democrat nomination and he will beat Trump.  Too many people in this country want free stuff.

But who pays for all the "free stuff" !!??!!

[izne1home]

But who pays for all the "free stuff" !!??!!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/24/bernie-sanders-admits-he-hasnt-clue-cost-his-socia/

I'm sure Bernie will let us know when he figures it out.   

[RoadDawg]

Sanders will get the Democrat nomination and he will beat Trump.  Too many people in this country want free stuff.

No way...  Bern's socialist agenda scares a lot of Dems too, and even more swing votes will go to Trump.  The Dems know it, and it's why they dont want Crazy Bernie. 

[Spazzilla]

Sanders will get the Democrat nomination and he will beat Trump.  Too many people in this country want free stuff.

I don't think you understand how the nomination process works.  Sanders will have the most delegates going into the DNC convention, but will not have the majority.  Without the majority of delegates won through the primaries, the decision essentially is up to "superdelegates"; nearly 800 people hand picked by the DNC.  These people do. not. want. Sanders. 

The DNC are part of the swamp. They are the establishment. They've done an admiral job of setting the rules to their game, but reserving the right to bitch about the evils of the electoral college and the value of direct-democracy. 

They're a walking contradiction.

Sanders is the best bet to beat Trump, but he'll never get to the dance.

The wild card is if he chooses to run third-party.  He doesn't beet Trump because the Dems will split votes, but he can stop anyone from getting to 270.  Then it gets interesting.

[StupidJagoff]

I don't pay attention to politics much, but I was curious if anyone else had heard of any Bernie policies that don't involve handing out free stuff? I'm not a mathematician, but with the current debt crisis this country is already in, free handouts seem like a bad idea.   

[izne1home]

The wild card is if he chooses to run third-party.  He doesn't beet Trump because the Dems will split votes, but he can stop anyone from getting to 270.  Then it gets interesting.

If no candidate reaches 270 electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each state delegation (excluding DC) has one vote and it is up to the individual states to determine how to vote.  A candidate must receive at least 26 votes (a majority of the States) to be elected.

The Senate chooses the VP with each senator getting one vote.  If the House can't figure it out, the VP-elect serves as the acting president until the deadlock is broken in the House.

In other words, Civil War II.  Thank God my side has the Pentagon's support and most of those 400,000,000 guns in circulation...

[eylchamps]

I'm sure Bernie will let us know when he figures it out.   

Trump supporters fell for the Mexico will Pay populist slogan. The Dems will fall for this too.
The "not so bright" vote for the best party populist talking point.

[eylchamps]

I don't pay attention to politics much, but I was curious if anyone else had heard of any Bernie policies that don't involve handing out free stuff? I'm not a mathematician, but with the current debt crisis this country is already in, free handouts seem like a bad idea.

Bernie can talk all he wants. That does not mean he will get it all.
We are in a debt crisis because of the two parties. The two parties are responsible for this mess. Trump is on pace to match Obama in spending. Let that sink in for a minute. Conservative much?
Don' fear the talking populist speech, fear when congress is sending the bills to the WH for the signature. Trump has not stopped signing the spending bills. Bernie will do the same. Bloomberg and Biden will do the same.
As long as we continue to vote for the garbage parties, we will get the same trash. and we will have to pay for it.

[izne1home]

Biden's got some mojo...  Hopefully, the others will follow Buttigieg's (the DNC's) lead and get out of the way. 

[Spazzilla]

Biden's got some mojo...  Hopefully, the others will follow Buttigieg's (the DNC's) lead and get out of the way.

If the DNC has any hope of screwing the pooch on Bernie, they need to keep Biden and Warren in the race as long as possible. 

Warren will steal votes from the progressive side of the Party and Biden will continue to offer Democrat voters a moderate option.  Right now Bloomy and JoJo are splitting votes, in the eyes of the big picture, they're one and the same. 

The Buttedgeedge withdrawl was interesting. It cost you 0$ to stay in the race through Super-Tuesday.  Hell, I saw a TV ad run for him last night.  Him and Tom Sawyer for that matter who pulled a respectable 11% in SC. The Clinton Foundation must have gotten to them...


Edit: And the plot just thickened... Amy Klobushart just dropped out.  The DNC is circling the wagons ahead of super Tuesday.  My prediction is coming to fruition...

[Coastfan]

I can't wait until the DNC picks someone other than Crazy Bernie...his loyal comrades and leeches will go atomic!

[izne1home]

It cost you 0$ to stay in the race through Super-Tuesday. 

It cost you 0$ (and your political future, if not your life) to stay in the race through Super-Tuesday. 

Hopefully, others ignore the threats and stay in the race long enough to make sure the front runner will only have a plurality going to the convention.  The DNC is probably bribing Warren to stay in. 

[Spazzilla]

It cost you 0$ (and your political future, if not your life) to stay in the race through Super-Tuesday. 

Hopefully, others ignore the threats and stay in the race long enough to make sure the front runner will only have a plurality going to the convention.  The DNC is probably bribing Warren to stay in.

Of the major candidates left, here's their polling average:

Sanders      28.5           
Biden          20.0
Bloomberg   15.0
Warren         14.0
Gabbard         1.3

Recent Drop Outs:
Buttedgeedge 9.8
Kloberchart     4.8
Slayer             2.8

So we're talking 17.4% of support up for grabs.  Could put Permie in the rear view and not need DNC politics.  Tuesday will be telling. 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

[Spazzilla]