Clovis West Scrimmage

[obiwan]

What happened at the Clovis West Scrimmage? Everyone is pretty quiet....LOL

[obiwan]

[izne1home]

What happened at the Clovis West Scrimmage? Everyone is pretty quiet....LOL

Kind of like the BHS scrimmage....

[izne1home]

[christhepunter]

CW 1 TD, late, 1 Pick

Memorial 2 TD's, 1 Pick

[christhepunter]

[califmtbguy]

I was there for the first three quarters. Caleb Kelly had a pick 6 that made you realize why he is getting some attention. He stepped, grabbed the pick and was in the endzone before you even realized what had happened.

San Joaquin Memorial's defense looked pretty dominant. It seemed like aside from a few big plays they were always in the right spot at the right time. SJM's linebackers are either studs or the CW's offense made them look that way. They just took over and for the most part CW couldn't move the ball against them.

It was almost the same on the other side. SJM's offense looked okay but not spectacular. Again, not sure if it was just great defense or mediocre offense. Or both.

On the JV side CW pretty much had their way with SJM. Both sides played decent but CW just has better talent and more of it at this point. One JV standout was Rodney Wright's kid, Rodney Jr. He's a burner.

Final take from obviously a limited scrimmage. #1: I think SJM will be better than people think this year. #2: CW is a year away being REALLY good. 

[califmtbguy]

[obiwan]

A year away? Come on.

[obiwan]

[califmtbguy]

A year away? Come on.

Just my opinion. CW was not impressive. I was expecting a different game but they pretty much got bounced around by a middle-tier D2 team. It's a scrimmage so who knows but I was surprised because I was expecting to see CW dominate not the other way around. However, there is a lot of talent on the CW side and a lot of talent on the way up so yes I do think they are a year or so away.

[califmtbguy]

[Coach Josh]

CW was missing more than a few starters on both sides of the ball.
The Timberwolves still don't stand a chance......

[Coach Josh]

[obiwan]

CW was missing more than a few starters on both sides of the ball.
The Timberwolves still don't stand a chance......

It might be a time for a change...

[obiwan]

[Coach Josh]

It might be a time for a change...

Not in our era.

[Coach Josh]

[obiwan]

Just my opinion. CW was not impressive. I was expecting a different game but they pretty much got bounced around by a middle-tier D2 team. It's a scrimmage so who knows but I was surprised because I was expecting to see CW dominate not the other way around. However, there is a lot of talent on the CW side and a lot of talent on the way up so yes I do think they are a year or so away.

We've heard the same thing the last few years. At some point, we need to move on. CW isn't going to be like it was. It doesn't matter if you have long time coaches there from the past helping either. The tradition of CW football probably won't be around for awhile.

[obiwan]

[CWClassof2007]

They'll have their work cut out for them on Friday. Merced is a tough team. Merced also has the pleasure of playing against Edison & Clovis North.

[CWClassof2007]

[Coach Josh]

Why do you guys even comment on this guys post's??? He's obviously a CW hater. He does this every season. Post more about CW than he's does about his own team. Bash the best somewhere else. You wish your wolves had a team even close to the eagles.

[Coach Josh]

[izne1home]

Why do you guys even comment on this guys post's??? He's obviously a CW hater. He does this every season. Post more about CW than he's does about his own team. Bash the best somewhere else. You wish your wolves had a team even close to the eagles.

Cut him some slack.  He's a CE guy. 

[izne1home]

[steve-o]

Cut him some slack.  He's a CE guy. 

whoa there my brother....don't lump us all in together......some of us only post when we have something important to say and just read most the time;-)

[steve-o]

[izne1home]

whoa there my brother....don't lump us all in together......some of us only post when we have something important to say and just read most the time;-)

I know.  In my era, CW and CE were the undisputed bad asses of the Central Section.  Just reminiscing....

[izne1home]

[steve-o]

I know.  In my era, CW and CE were the undisputed bad asses of the Central Section.  Just reminiscing....

its all a cycle.......like Bakersfield football.........

[steve-o]

[Bronco]

its all a cycle.......like Bakersfield football.........

Like Bakersfield ??  :huh: that cycle seems to be BHS/ Drillers/ Bhs/ Drillas"/ BHS/ DRILLERS- - - - -  8)

[Bronco]

[izne1home]

its all a cycle.......like Bakersfield football.........

Can't wait for CE and CW to cycle back.  Man..., those were fist fights, from the HC's on down. 

[izne1home]

[obiwan]

Can't wait for CE and CW to cycle back.  Man..., those were fist fights, from the HC's on down. 

It's going to be a long time CW fans and it's the same for CE. I'm not trying to be a hater either. It's is what is. Coaches can't assume that they are going to be good because of the pats. They need teach and motivate players instead of standing around and blowing a whistle.

[obiwan]

[Coach Josh]

It's going to be a long time CW fans and it's the same for CE. I'm not trying to be a hater either. It's is what is. Coaches can't assume that they are going to be good because of the pats. They need teach and motivate players instead of standing around and blowing a whistle.

Its obvious you haven't seen a CW practice this season. Coach George is all over the field... Teaching, hollering, making sure things are done his way. He installed his O & D personally all the way down to the 7th grade team. He wants to rebuild Rome. There's LOTS of talent in the area to do it with.

As for CE. No one wants to coach in the area...... Plain and simple. Feeder elementary schools ARE always at the bottom. Reyburn is just horrific and CE is like the 2 others... No hope.

[Coach Josh]

[steve-o]

As for CE. No one wants to coach in the area...... Plain and simple. Feeder elementary schools ARE always at the bottom. Reyburn is just horrific and CE is like the 2 others... No hope.

respectfully disagree here.......the kids are starting to buy back in, there are athletes starting to come back and OB has a very knowledgeable group of young and energetic coaches. Most importantly......the kids are starting to have fun again!!!!!

[steve-o]

[obiwan]

respectfully disagree here.......the kids are starting to buy back in, there are athletes starting to come back and OB has a very knowledgeable group of young and energetic coaches. Most importantly......the kids are starting to have fun again!!!!!

Starting to have fun? It take few years to have fun playing? So now that we are having fun, are we going to be more competitive? I moved to Clovis unified because it was about being competitive and to maximize my kids potential. Have fun should already be a part if it.

[obiwan]

[Coach Josh]

Starting to have fun? It take few years to have fun playing? So now that we are having fun, are we going to be more competitive? I moved to Clovis unified because it was about being competitive and to maximize my kids potential. Have fun should already be a part if it.

You moved to the wrong part of Clovis....

[Coach Josh]

[steve-o]

Starting to have fun? It take few years to have fun playing? So now that we are having fun, are we going to be more competitive? I moved to Clovis unified because it was about being competitive and to maximize my kids potential. Have fun should already be a part if it.

The kids know the history of CE and there has been a lot of pressure on them to get back to/maintain that. That has caused a lot of pressure on the kids and not made it fun to play the game, and ultimately that's what it is, a game. The numbers are starting to come back to the program and I, personally, think have turned a corner. Only time will tell, but if you have any questions, please feel free to pm me and we can discuss it further, without airing it out........
and just so people don't think I'm the Wizard of Oz......Jason Peterson, Frosh/JV LB/RB coach.

[steve-o]

[obiwan]

The kids know the history of CE and there has been a lot of pressure on them to get back to/maintain that. That has caused a lot of pressure on the kids and not made it fun to play the game, and ultimately that's what it is, a game. The numbers are starting to come back to the program and I, personally, think have turned a corner. Only time will tell, but if you have any questions, please feel free to pm me and we can discuss it further, without airing it out........
and just so people don't think I'm the Wizard of Oz......Jason Peterson, Frosh/JV LB/RB coach.

Pressure? The admin isn't putting pressure on OB or staff. They're all friends. Don't get me wrong, I will support our program. The CE way from the top down isn't the same as in the past. If it was, we've would of gone in a direction with a coach who has a proven record of rebuilding a program. No knock on OB.

[obiwan]

[tru guru]

Pressure? The admin isn't putting pressure on OB or staff. They're all friends. Don't get me wrong, I will support our program. The CE way from the top down isn't the same as in the past. If it was, we've would of gone in a direction with a coach who has a proven record of rebuilding a program. No knock on OB.

How in the heck is that not a knock on O'Brien?  The "CE Way" of the early 2000's is gone, man.  They were the shiny new toy of CUSD back then and everybody wanted to play for them.  They had some superior athletes and buy in from the community that no longer exists.  The new toy of CUSD is currently CN, and they are mirroring, if not succeeding the early success of CE.  Similar story when Buchanan was all shiny, new and busted out their only VC.  Bottom line, CE can't dwell on the past.  Those days are gone.  The talent has been watered down district-wide.  To compete now, CE needs leadership at the top that will adapt to current realities in the district, not a recycled retread of days of yore.  I have no idea if O'Brien is that guy, but he will be given ample time for the district to figure it out.  They do not want another CW revolving door on their hands........just my take on the situation.

[tru guru]

[obiwan]

Nice take on the situation at CE...

[obiwan]