Kingsburg beats Hanford.
I said it before I won't be surprised if CW knocks off Bullard and Central beats Liberty.
(will phatso now say I'm on the CW & Central bandwagon?)
Would TU over Sunnyside be considered an upset considering they are "overrated"??
Central will beat Liberty I'm calling it I've had blind faith with this team and they are the most dangerous team in d1. If they beat Liberty they will win valley. But there is no doubt bottom bracket would and will win valley whether it be Liberty central Bullard or CW. Dlos is putting his name on it. Lol
Quote from: TeddyKGB on November 19, 2015, 09:31:34 AM
I said it before I won't be surprised if CW knocks off Bullard and Central beats Liberty.
(will phatso now say I'm on the CW & Central bandwagon?)
Interesting comment. When I was speaking of Central being one of Liberty's toughest games 2 weeks ago YOU and Roughneck went off on me, bashed me, and compared me to bakosphat? Now seems like you may have done some research on Central and realized they play in a BIG TIME league name the TRAC. I am personally flattered that you are now seeing what I've been saying all along.
good grief Charlie Brown... I never bashed you for saying Central was good. Not only do you not clearly express what you mean you can't read and understand what you read. You, my friend, are a prime example of how the public education system is failing miserably. What both Rough and I said was that at the time they would have played Liberty and Central were in the same boat. But, because you have a fragile ego because of your inability to fully understand what you read, you felt we bashed you. I'll use the most simplest (yes I know this is poor grammar, but I'm talking to my audience) word I can: in the playoffs anything can happen so I would not be surprised if Central beats Liberty, that's does not mean I think Liberty is no good or that Central is better. If Liberty played Central 10 times I believe Liberty wins 8 of them, but to win a playoff game many things need to be right.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on November 19, 2015, 10:38:08 AM
good grief Charlie Brown... I never bashed you for saying Central was good. Not only do you not clearly express what you mean you can't read and understand what you read. You, my friend, are a prime example of how the public education system is failing miserably. What both Rough and I said was that at the time they would have played Liberty and Central were in the same boat. But, because you have a fragile ego because of your inability to fully understand what you read, you felt we bashed you. I'll use the most simplest (yes I know this is poor grammar, but I'm talking to my audience) word I can: in the playoffs anything can happen so I would not be surprised if Central beats Liberty, that's does not mean I think Liberty is no good or that Central is better. If Liberty played Central 10 times I believe Liberty wins 8 of them, but to win a playoff game many things need to be right.
Take it a step further Teddy, obviously, he has no clue, Liberty history speaks for it's self.
Personally, I don't like your post that you won't be surprised if Liberty will lose, but I can't argue your point, I got nothing.
That being said, Liberty can start a change in perception by winning all of their playoff games this year.
It's really not about Central, it more about Liberty.
I expect Liberty to win every playoff game, anything else, keeps Liberty in the same boat as every team in the SWYL, minus BHS of course.
Quote from: flexmac3 on November 19, 2015, 10:52:36 AM
Take it a step further Teddy, obviously, he has no clue, Liberty history speaks for it's self.
Personally, I don't like your post that you won't be surprised if Liberty will lose, but I can't argue your point, I got nothing.
That being said, Liberty can start a change in perception by winning all of their playoff games this year.
It's really not about Central, it more about Liberty.
I expect Liberty to win every playoff game, anything else, keeps Liberty in the same boat as every team in the SWYL, minus BHS of course.
You obviously cant understand that it has less to do with Liberty's history, and more to do with Centrals ability.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on November 19, 2015, 10:38:08 AM
good grief Charlie Brown... I never bashed you for saying Central was good. Not only do you not clearly express what you mean you can't read and understand what you read. You, my friend, are a prime example of how the public education system is failing miserably. What both Rough and I said was that at the time they would have played Liberty and Central were in the same boat. But, because you have a fragile ego because of your inability to fully understand what you read, you felt we bashed you. I'll use the most simplest (yes I know this is poor grammar, but I'm talking to my audience) word I can: in the playoffs anything can happen so I would not be surprised if Central beats Liberty, that's does not mean I think Liberty is no good or that Central is better. If Liberty played Central 10 times I believe Liberty wins 8 of them, but to win a playoff game many things need to be right.
Good one on the "public education system failing". Excellent, common core at its best. You must be a English teacher? ?
Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on November 19, 2015, 11:22:46 AM
You obviously cant understand that it has less to do with Liberty's history, and more to do with Centrals ability.
truthbetold, you are not following what is being posted.
Central abilities has nothing to do with what's been posted.
Teddy said he would not be surprised if...........forget it, I don't feel like explaining.
Quote from: flexmac3 on November 19, 2015, 11:32:32 AM
truthbetold, you are not following what is being posted.
Central abilities has nothing to do with what's been posted.
Teddy said he would not be surprised if...........forget it, I don't feel like explaining.
Like wise, my post to KGB was about a discussion we had 2 weeks ago in a forum called (Liberty game shortage) . Never mind, my apologizes.
Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on November 19, 2015, 11:31:55 AM
You must be aN English teacher? ?
No, I am not a teacher I just know how to speak English; AND AGAIN you fail to understand what is being written/said. My post, I thought foolishly was clear, but apparently your inability to understand supersedes my ability to explain. I think Liberty is the better team, BY FAR, they haven't shown a weakness the last few weeks. (This is more for you flex) I believe that historically Liberty has come up short and underachieved, this is a different team: coaches, talent, etc. I just believe that in the playoffs the teams are quality that any mistake will be tough to overcome. Its not uncommon to see big upsets, that's why IT WON'T surprise me if CW & Central win.
Quote from: Patron on November 19, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
Kingsburg beats Hanford.
I couldn't disagree with you more... There is less than 1% chance Kingsburg is even in the game by the 4th quarter. Not a sound passing game for Kingsburg, and the defense is going to have match-up problems all over the field!
And yes, of course, that is why they play the game. But come on!
Quote from: PitPride65 on November 19, 2015, 12:09:56 PM
I couldn't disagree with you more... There is less than 1% chance Kingsburg is even in the game by the 4th quarter. Not a sound passing game for Kingsburg, and the defense is going to have match-up problems all over the field!
And yes, of course, that is why they play the game. But come on!
Kingsburg passing game is pretty good, there QB passed for roughly 2,500 yards this year. I believe that's more yards then the Hanford QB this year? However I do agree with you on there defense. Hard too see them keeping up with Hanford offense...but you never know. That beating they (Hanford) took from Lemoore could effect them IMO. At the end of the day i'm picking Hanford to win.
Quote from: Dlostheruler on November 19, 2015, 10:23:23 AM
Central will beat Liberty I'm calling it I've had blind faith with this team and they are the most dangerous team in d1. If they beat Liberty they will win valley. But there is no doubt bottom bracket would and will win valley whether it be Liberty central Bullard or CW. Dlos is putting his name on it. Lol
Central the most dangerous team in D1?
Im sorry, but I disagree.
For starters I think Buchanan, CW, and CN are more dangerous because all of those teams have proved they are better.
Then you have Liberty, who is probably the best team in D1.
Do I think Central CAN be dangerous to teams? Yes.
If Central gets within three touchdowns of Liberty, that would be an upset. Central beat Centennial's 2nd and 3rd string by 11 and Liberty destroyed their starters. Final will be roughly 55-7 LHS.
I'm really indifferent about Liberty beating Central or not. I would like to see them advance however. I really can't see what a team would focus on to stop Liberty, But high school is such a game of match ups that I would think the only way to really stop Liberty would be if you can play man coverage and put 9 in the box to stop the run.
Central is no good liberty will central it's easy pick.... liberty doesn't even need to show up
Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on November 19, 2015, 12:24:22 PM
Kingsburg passing game is pretty good, there QB passed for roughly 2,500 yards this year. I believe that's more yards then the Hanford QB this year? However I do agree with you on there defense. Hard too see them keeping up with Hanford offense...but you never know. That beating they (Hanford) took from Lemoore could effect them IMO. At the end of the day i'm picking Hanford to win.
That beating they took from Lemoore LAST year took them all the way to a VC......
Quote from: redskin on November 19, 2015, 02:19:28 PM
Central is no good liberty will central it's easy pick.... liberty doesn't even need to show up
what language is this?
Quote from: TeddyKGB on November 19, 2015, 03:09:41 PM
what language is this?
That's roadside strawberry stand, I'd recognize it anywhere.... Strawberry Sale For Here!
Quote from: TeddyKGB on November 19, 2015, 03:09:41 PM
what language is this?
And you say "I'm the product of the public education system". Lol.
My upset pick = Clovis North over the Bears
Quote from: Patron on November 19, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
Kingsburg beats Hanford.
Just curious if you're aware Hughes is back for Hanford?
Kingsburg has the talent to hang with Hanford but they won't. They had the best talent in the CSL but finished in last place.
Correct Kingsburg has the players to do it but they won't, the old coach's could have got it done and could have won the league with that talent. Reminds me of the forty niner's management didn't like the great coach they had so they made a change and we all know how that turned out.
Quote from: Bear Down on November 20, 2015, 05:27:07 AM
Kingsburg has the talent to hang with Hanford but they won't. They had the best talent in the CSL but finished in last place.
this sounds like an anti-coach statement...either a bitter parent or kid?
Selma guy with the name "Bear Down".
There will be a few "Bears down" after Washington Union is through with them.
Just my observation after watching Kingsburg vs Hanford and Selma vs Kingsburg. Also was not overly impressed with Hanford. Not sure they are as good as last year.
62 points wasn't enough for you Bear?
Hanford (only 1 game observation): Very good speed but lacking up front. This lack of size killed them against Lemoore and may hurt them against Memorial or Tehachapi. Defense was not very good that day giving up long runs and deep passes. I'm sure coach Young has them ready to go.
Quote from: Spazzilla on November 20, 2015, 10:24:10 AM
Chowchillenos
......Not one of ours....he's just reppin...... LOL
Quote from: Patron on November 19, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
Kingsburg beats Hanford.
Perhaps the worst prediction in cvhspreps history. Kingsburg was out of this game by the end of the first quarter. Stay away from Vegas for awhile, Patron.......
After watching the Liberty-Central game last night, using the Central win vs Clovis as a gauge, Liberty is going to be hard to beat. On the flip side, I can see why Central was 2-8, they may be the worst coached team in the TRAC. They had a chance to make it extremely difficult for Liberty to come back, they got a turn over in Liberty territory with about 2 minutes left in the 2nd and managed to come away with 0 point, they were going to get the ball to open the 2nd half. Liberty showed that they are a solid all around team. Their pass game was not going well early so Nixon started running the ball and it paid off, they dominated the LOS.
Quote from: TeddyKGB on November 21, 2015, 12:00:51 PM
After watching the Liberty-Central game last night, using the Central win vs Clovis as a gauge, Liberty is going to be hard to beat. On the flip side, I can see why Central was 2-8, they may be the worst coached team in the TRAC. They had a chance to make it extremely difficult for Liberty to come back, they got a turn over in Liberty territory with about 2 minutes left in the 2nd and managed to come away with 0 point, they were going to get the ball to open the 2nd half. Liberty showed that they are a solid all around team. Their pass game was not going well early so Nixon started running the ball and it paid off, they dominated the LOS.
Put 12 or 13 players on the Central defense & the Patriots are sitting at home next week. I'm taking Bullard next week against the Patriots.
Quote from: CWClassof2007 on November 21, 2015, 01:57:15 PM
Put 12 or 13 players on the Central defense & the Patriots are sitting at home next week. I'm taking Bullard next week against the Patriots.
Yup. Pates will put up some good numbers, and Bullard can be wishy-washy with their shoddy play calling - but I think the Knights win in Bakersfield and seal the deal for a north-valley DI title game.
I picked Bullard earlier to upset Liberty, if Central was not so poorly coached I think Liberty would have been in big trouble last night. Central had ample opportunities to put the Pats in a tough situation, but they couldn't get it down. Whoever calls the plays for Central should be a fired. Now, that's not to say that Liberty is not the better team, but I felt that Central could have capitalized on some LHS mistakes and didn't.
I have not seen Central play or followed them at all. What are the main criticisms of the play-calling? predictability, lack of situational awareness, trying to be to tricky, personnel & system not compatible?
Quote from: #GOEAGLES on November 22, 2015, 08:38:44 AM
I have not seen Central play or followed them at all. What are the main criticisms of the play-calling? predictability, lack of situational awareness, trying to be to tricky, personnel & system not compatible?
Eagle, After watching Central vs Liberty, Central had a chance to steal that game, I don't discuss coaching, or play calling, but let's just say Central record speaks for it self.
Liberty was the better team, but I can see why Central beat Clovis, and played good football teams like Bullard, and CN very tough.
To answer your question, I would say all of your examples, is the answer.
I wouldn't use the word criticize to explain Central, I'm not a Central fan, but it appears that Central was not able to take advantage of any opportunities that came their way this year.
Quote from: #GOEAGLES on November 22, 2015, 08:38:44 AM
I have not seen Central play or followed them at all. What are the main criticisms of the play-calling? predictability, lack of situational awareness, trying to be to tricky, personnel & system not compatible?
unlike Flex I will discuss coaching/play calling ;D. I think lack of situational awareness is the biggest one, they had the ball inside Liberty (45 or so) territory in the 1st half, 2nd and about 8 or 9 they attempt a pass play (SURPRISE) LHS brings pressure and the QB has to scramble and gets back to the LOS, on 3rd down same thing and on 4th they attempt a WR screen into the boundary. Down on the goal line Central gets the ball inside the 1, so 1st and goal. They line up in a pistol/shotgun and are dropped for a loss. 2nd down they take out 15 (starting QB) and bring in 8 and attempt a roll out pass to the back out of the backfield that almost was picked. Finally on 3rd the RB pushed his way into the endzone. All night long this kind of thing happened. Central has a good team, the QB is solid, the WRs get open but don't hold on to the ball. They had a lot of drops and against a good team like Liberty that will bite you, as we saw. As was said by someone else, I can see why Central's record was as it was the coaching was piss-poor.