In Porterville at the Veterans Hall for the Central Section meeting of athletic directors on proposed league realignments
If you have Twitter you can Following along Read Mr Horn from Bakerfield doing Live Tweet
Glenn Davis Looking at a few lists and seeing McFarland's name being dropped for the South Sequoia League if Bakersfield Christian leaves for the SYL. Kim Frazier Stock
All of this, of course, is preliminary. Final vote on league realignment is in March for the 4-year cycle starting in 2018-19. So it's early
it Start now i will have Result when Few AD in Central Section make their case to Move from league and Stay in leagues
here we go McFarland AD Justin Derrick is the rep for the East Sierra League talk to all AD and Central Section Officals member now
Derrick says "We (McFarland) are really looking to push out of the ESL and into the SSL."
Derrick proposal is to add Wonderful Prep in Delano into the ESL. A school without a football program at this time
Glenn Davis Next up is BCHS AD Blake Van Der Shaaf. BCHS wants in the SYL and out of the SSL with first talking points being travel and keeping kids in school longer.
BCHS has a solid case to move out of the SSL. Only Bakersfield proper high school not in the any of the 3 Yosemite leagues. CHS has also been the top school in the SSL in most athletic programs over the last half decade. Arguments will obviously come from KHSD. KHSD voted for Delano to move into SYL.
So with the first two speakers. It's McFarland wanting into the SSL and BCHS wanting out. Will be interesting to see what comes about.
Next up is the talk of Delano leaving the EYL and moving Dinuba into the league, despite Dinuba not wanting to leave CSL
i Following all Tweet from Mr Horn the newspaper in bakerfield ca at the meeting with ADs in Porterville
Quote from: Glenn on October 12, 2016, 10:06:32 AM
In Porterville at the Veterans Hall for the Central Section meeting of athletic directors on proposed league realignments
If you have Twitter you can Following along Read Mr Horn from Bakerfield doing Live Tweet
Glenn Davis Looking at a few lists and seeing McFarland's name being dropped for the South Sequoia League if Bakersfield Christian leaves for the SYL. Kim Frazier Stock
All of this, of course, is preliminary. Final vote on league realignment is in March for the 4-year cycle starting in 2018-19. So it's early
it Start now i will have Result when Few AD in Central Section make their case to Move from league and Stay in leagues
here we go McFarland AD Justin Derrick is the rep for the East Sierra League talk to all AD and Central Section Officals member now
Derrick says "We (McFarland) are really looking to push out of the ESL and into the SSL."
Derrick proposal is to add Wonderful Prep in Delano into the ESL. A school without a football program at this time
Glenn Davis Next up is BCHS AD Blake Van Der Shaaf. BCHS wants in the SYL and out of the SSL with first talking points being travel and keeping kids in school longer.
BCHS has a solid case to move out of the SSL. Only Bakersfield proper high school not in the any of the 3 Yosemite leagues. CHS has also been the top school in the SSL in most athletic programs over the last half decade. Arguments will obviously come from KHSD. KHSD voted for Delano to move into SYL.
So with the first two speakers. It's McFarland wanting into the SSL and BCHS wanting out. Will be interesting to see what comes about.
Next up is the talk of Delano leaving the EYL and moving Dinuba into the league, despite Dinuba not wanting to leave CSL
i Following all Tweet from Mr Horn the newspaper in bakerfield ca at the meeting with ADs in Porterville
Talk now is moving Orange Cove into the WSL. A lot of the talk is on Fresno Christian inability to field an 11-man football team.
Quote from: Glenn on October 12, 2016, 10:07:38 AM
Talk now is moving Orange Cove into the WSL. A lot of the talk is on Fresno Christian inability to field an 11-man football team.
All of this, of course, is preliminary. Final vote on league realignment is in March for the 4-year cycle starting in 2018-19. So it's early
Quote from: Glenn on October 12, 2016, 10:06:32 AM
In Porterville at the Veterans Hall for the Central Section meeting of athletic directors on proposed league realignments
If you have Twitter you can Following along Read Mr Horn from Bakerfield doing Live Tweet
Glenn Davis Looking at a few lists and seeing McFarland's name being dropped for the South Sequoia League if Bakersfield Christian leaves for the SYL. Kim Frazier Stock
All of this, of course, is preliminary. Final vote on league realignment is in March for the 4-year cycle starting in 2018-19. So it's early
it Start now i will have Result when Few AD in Central Section make their case to Move from league and Stay in leagues
here we go McFarland AD Justin Derrick is the rep for the East Sierra League talk to all AD and Central Section Officals member now
Derrick says "We (McFarland) are really looking to push out of the ESL and into the SSL."
Derrick proposal is to add Wonderful Prep in Delano into the ESL. A school without a football program at this time
Glenn Davis Next up is BCHS AD Blake Van Der Shaaf. BCHS wants in the SYL and out of the SSL with first talking points being travel and keeping kids in school longer.
BCHS has a solid case to move out of the SSL. Only Bakersfield proper high school not in the any of the 3 Yosemite leagues. CHS has also been the top school in the SSL in most athletic programs over the last half decade. Arguments will obviously come from KHSD. KHSD voted for Delano to move into SYL.
So with the first two speakers. It's McFarland wanting into the SSL and BCHS wanting out. Will be interesting to see what comes about.
Next up is the talk of Delano leaving the EYL and moving Dinuba into the league, despite Dinuba not wanting to leave CSL
i Following all Tweet from Mr Horn the newspaper in bakerfield ca at the meeting with ADs in Porterville
WSL discussion gets murky when ADs realize it would move Yosemite out and leave it at a four-team league in football. That won't work.
Quote from: Glenn on October 12, 2016, 10:06:32 AM
In Porterville at the Veterans Hall for the Central Section meeting of athletic directors on proposed league realignments
If you have Twitter you can Following along Read Mr Horn from Bakerfield doing Live Tweet
Glenn Davis Looking at a few lists and seeing McFarland's name being dropped for the South Sequoia League if Bakersfield Christian leaves for the SYL. Kim Frazier Stock
All of this, of course, is preliminary. Final vote on league realignment is in March for the 4-year cycle starting in 2018-19. So it's early
it Start now i will have Result when Few AD in Central Section make their case to Move from league and Stay in leagues
here we go McFarland AD Justin Derrick is the rep for the East Sierra League talk to all AD and Central Section Officals member now
Derrick says "We (McFarland) are really looking to push out of the ESL and into the SSL."
Derrick proposal is to add Wonderful Prep in Delano into the ESL. A school without a football program at this time
Glenn Davis Next up is BCHS AD Blake Van Der Shaaf. BCHS wants in the SYL and out of the SSL with first talking points being travel and keeping kids in school longer.
BCHS has a solid case to move out of the SSL. Only Bakersfield proper high school not in the any of the 3 Yosemite leagues. CHS has also been the top school in the SSL in most athletic programs over the last half decade. Arguments will obviously come from KHSD. KHSD voted for Delano to move into SYL.
So with the first two speakers. It's McFarland wanting into the SSL and BCHS wanting out. Will be interesting to see what comes about.
Next up is the talk of Delano leaving the EYL and moving Dinuba into the league, despite Dinuba not wanting to leave CSL
i Following all Tweet from Mr Horn the newspaper in bakerfield ca at the meeting with ADs in Porterville
I still want for more Tweet from Mr Horn So Be patient here
All of this talk from the ADs will be taken into consideration and will be decided by the three area commissioners in the Central Section
I'm guessing the Delano move down South and Dinuba into the EYL is making room for the WYL to move a team out to get them to 6 teams.
Delano to Bakersfield leagues, Dinuba into the EYL and Hanford West into the CSL.
Reedley petitioning out of NYL and into the CSL because of neighborhood rivalries for the Pirates.
Hanford West petitioning into the CSL rather than Reedley
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 12, 2016, 10:23:51 AM
Delano to Bakersfield leagues, Dinuba into the EYL and Hanford West into the CSL.
Reedley want go CSL too
Much like the talks of moving East into the SEYL, the talk of CSL moving in Reedley with Dinuba, Selma, Kingsburg is about local travel.
Steve Matney representing the SEYL.
Scott Davisson from West for the SYL.
Tim Davis of Liberty up first for the SWYL.
Ok. KHSD up now. All ADs coming up to speak. Interesting
BCHS asking KHSD athletic directors why Delano over BCHS, Scott Davisson said "They want in. We chose them."
Stan Greene response: "As a district and a league, We have the right. That's why." No explanation on reasoning
OK. Here we go. The talk of private vs public school finally being discussed by Taft AD, calling it "the elephant in the room."
Shafter AD says they want SSL to move to six teams, saying seven is not fair. Currently at seven in this four-year cycle.
Wasco AD with a little humor, saying "Let's make it easy." with moving McFarland to SSL and BCHS to the SYL.
Joan Finch, the Garces AD talking points to stay in SWYL is girls sports and not about football and boys basketball.
Finch back at the mic. Showing alternative proposal with Rams staying in SWYL and BCHS into the SYL with East to the SEYL. Not Delano.
Finch, though, says that if Garces goes to SYL, would rather have Delano and NOT BCHS. Interesting.
So, here it is. BCHS wants in the SYL. McFarland wants in the SSL. Delano wants in the SYL. Garces wants in the SWYL. Moving parts.
I will have more when it Post Guys Hold on
If you got Twitter account Follwing Horn his following it and post it
No Ridgeview AD Mark Thompson here today to talk about the Wolf Pack moving into the SWYL.
My thoughts are Ridgeview moves into the SWYL and Garces and BCHS seemed likely to go into SYL. The issue is where to put Delano, McFarland.
Meeting is over. Now in the hands of the three area commissioners.
now your Opioion and thoughts bout this meeting
that mean thems will have Rest of October and Nov and Dec and Jan and Feb before Make the final Decide on what be Say at this Meeting
I thougts Some say Exeter was leave CSL but it was no talk bout that only Dinuba leave and Reedley and Hanford West come to CSL
I'm a little surprised that this conversation isn't getting a little attention here on the board with possible league changes being made.
Why is Garces so adamant the BCHS not be in the same league with them? Catholics vs. Protestants?
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 13, 2016, 01:35:43 PM
I'm a little surprised that this conversation isn't getting a little attention here on the board with possible league changes being made.
I agree. Tulare Co schools are going to change if they like it or not.
I like the idea of Dinuba to the EYL, I think that's a great fit.
Quote from: coachhammer on October 13, 2016, 01:44:11 PM
Why is Garces so adamant the BCHS not be in the same league with them? Catholics vs. Protestants?
it got be a good Reason for Not have Garces and BCHS in the same League I cant Figure it out but maybe Recuiters in Bakerfield area for thems 2 school ?
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 13, 2016, 02:39:38 PM
I like the idea of Dinuba to the EYL, I think that's a great fit.
I Like the Idea with Dinuiba Play EYL their can handle it in there
Tulare Union (Tulare, CA) 1 0 0 100% 5 1 0 83%
Tulare Western (Tulare, CA) 1 0 0 100% 4 2 0 67%
Mission Oak (Tulare, CA) 1 0 0 100% 2 4 0 33%
Monache (Porterville, CA) 0 1 0 0% 2 4 0 33%
Delano (CA) 0 1 0 0% 2 4 0 33%
Porterville (CA)
Add Dinuba and Drop Delano Sound good Planning Dinuba will only drive to Tulare ca or Portville
I think Add Dinuba will make this League Strong with Compitation here
With Dinuba 4-2 in CSL
I tho Kingsburg and Exeter was Leave CSL from what I heard that was not bring up to thems
To bad they couldn't drop Frontier and Independence. Then add Ridegview and Garces to the SYL. Create a super league that rivals the TRAC.
Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on October 13, 2016, 03:28:36 PM
To bad they couldn't drop Frontier and Independence. Then add Ridegview and Garces to the SYL. Create a super league that rivals the TRAC.
I'm assuming you mean SWYL. Which Garces is already in & Independence is not.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 13, 2016, 02:39:38 PM
I like the idea of Dinuba to the EYL, I think that's a great fit.
Darth, as great as that sounds, it will not happen due to distance. Dinuba in WYL would be a better fit but additional changes to WYL is needed. Can CVC compete in the WYL?
Quote from: CWClassof2007 on October 13, 2016, 08:16:03 PM
I'm assuming you mean SWYL. Which Garces is already in & Independence is not.
Independence was out to put Garces in. Independence never belonged in that league
Quote from: eylchamps on October 13, 2016, 10:24:35 PM
Darth, as great as that sounds, it will not happen due to distance. Dinuba in WYL would be a better fit but additional changes to WYL is needed. Can CVC compete in the WYL?
The simple answer to this is no. They simply don't have the student body population to compete at that level on a weekly basis. They may make a game of it from time to time with Golden West or Hanford West but even that might be asking a lot. CVC ebbs and flows with the other Visalia schools, so with Redwood on the rise they will lose some potential players there. When El Diamante was in its hay day, CVC was a sinking ship.
Quote from: eylchamps on October 13, 2016, 10:24:35 PM
Darth, as great as that sounds, it will not happen due to distance. Dinuba in WYL would be a better fit but additional changes to WYL is needed. Can CVC compete in the WYL?
Well, it's pretty much a done deal. Dinuba to Tulare is not a great distance. CVC will never sniff the WYL.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 13, 2016, 01:35:43 PM
I'm a little surprised that this conversation isn't getting a little attention here on the board with possible league changes being made.
I along with 100% of Dinubians do not want to see us in the EYL. To us it would be like taking the Raiders out of the AFC West or the Cowboys out of the NFC East. The CSL gets up for one another week in and week out, to where every week is a rivalry game. We know there isn't a lot of attention to schools in the Sequoia Leagues, but not playing the likes of Kingsburg and Selma where to where families (related and not) over generations have went toe to toe on the playing field against one another just would not be right. The exact reason Reedley wants in. I'm not talking just football either Wrestling, Baseball, Softball, Baseball, Basketball (boys and girls), are on a consistent basis of being very competitive amongst each other.
If we were to move into the EYL it would pretty much be nameless, faceless, teams that we would compete against. We don't know them, they don't know us and the loss of that Rivalry feeling every Friday night would not be the same. Granted competition is competition, but for me personally it is much more than just a placing a team here or there to fit someone's agenda.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
Well, it's pretty much a done deal. Dinuba to Tulare is not a great distance. CVC will never sniff the WYL.
Dinuba to Porterville is
Quote from: eylchamps on October 13, 2016, 10:24:35 PM
Darth, as great as that sounds, it will not happen due to distance. Dinuba in WYL would be a better fit but additional changes to WYL is needed. Can CVC compete in the WYL?
If you leave the CSL as is or add Reedley you would have 4-5 teams within a 15-20 mile radius (some closer) from each other. All very competitive with one another.
You guys are missing the main point of these moves. There can no longer be odd amounts of teams in leagues for football reasons. The #1 issue is that the WYL has 7 teams. They are dropping Hanford West to get to 6 teams which places them more than likely into the CSL. Delano wants to move down to Bakersfield for travel reasons which means someone from the CSL has to move to the EYL. Dinuba is by FAR the biggest school in the CSL. It's ridiculous that they compete against Immanuel and CVC. Think about the Dinuba vs. CVC games... 350 vs. 1900.
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 07:57:53 AM
I along with 100% of Dinubians do not want to see us in the EYL. To us it would be like taking the Raiders out of the AFC West or the Cowboys out of the NFC East. The CSL gets up for one another week in and week out, to where every week is a rivalry game. We know there isn't a lot of attention to schools in the Sequoia Leagues, but not playing the likes of Kingsburg and Selma where to where families (related and not) over generations have went toe to toe on the playing field against one another just would not be right. The exact reason Reedley wants in. I'm not talking just football either Wrestling, Baseball, Softball, Baseball, Basketball (boys and girls), are on a consistent basis of being very competitive amongst each other.
If we were to move into the EYL it would pretty much be nameless, faceless, teams that we would compete against. We don't know them, they don't know us and the loss of that Rivalry feeling every Friday night would not be the same. Granted competition is competition, but for me personally it is much more than just a placing a team here or there to fit someone's agenda.
Take it as a compliment...Dinuba has simply outgrown the CSL. With an 1,800 student body it's clear it's either time for Dinuba to build another HS or accept the facts. Selma is fast approaching those numbers and that is shown in their recent dominance. The CSL is by far the most diverse league containing schools from D5 up to D2(Dinuba). When it comes to league titles the deck is clearly stacked in your favor. You can still maintain those "Rival" games by scheduling them as non league games.
Quote from: MonarchPride on October 14, 2016, 08:19:19 AM
Take it as a compliment...Dinuba has simply outgrown the CSL. With an 1,800 student body it's clear it's either time for Dinuba to build another HS or accept the facts. Selma is fast approaching those numbers and that is shown in their recent dominance. The CSL is by far the most diverse league containing schools from D5 up to D2(Dinuba). When it comes to league titles the deck is clearly stacked in your favor. You can still maintain those "Rival" games by scheduling them as non league games.
Well stated. Kinda suspect that the Dinuba people are all clamoring to stay in a league with schools under 1000 population when they almost double that... c'mon EYE in the SKY, step your game up!
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 08:16:54 AM
You guys are missing the main point of these moves. There can no longer be odd amounts of teams in leagues for football reasons. The #1 issue is that the WYL has 7 teams. They are dropping Hanford West to get to 6 teams which places them more than likely into the CSL. Delano wants to move down to Bakersfield for travel reasons which means someone from the CSL has to move to the EYL. Dinuba is by FAR the biggest school in the CSL. It's ridiculous that they compete against Immanuel and CVC. Think about the Dinuba vs. CVC games... 350 vs. 1900.
I am not disagreeing with you on that your points, but the enrollment argument is basically football only, and private vs public has gone on and on for years on here and private conversations. Why not have a league with all private schools? Across the board in all sports have been knock down drag out series.
And by FAR you mean 100 students to Selma's 1800?
Believe me it's not the competition of a YOSEMITE league that I am against, as you can see how Coach schedules our preseason, and I would like to see Redwood added next season along with Sanger.
All of this because why??? Because Delano WANTS to move. So for whatever reason they have more say so on their travel when it's the exact same distance from Delano to Bakersfield as it is Delano to Tulare 30+miles give or take. When Dinuba, Reedley (Immanuel), Kingsburg, and Selma can drive less than 15 minutes to one another.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 08:20:45 AM
Well stated. Kinda suspect that the Dinuba people are all clamoring to stay in a league with schools under 1000 population when they almost double that... c'mon EYE in the SKY, step your game up!
If it were up to me I would drop those schools and add Reedley and Sanger...and it's not like we aren't 2-1 vs the EYL this year anyway right. And went toe to toe in that loss. You are missing the point.
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 08:34:09 AM
If it were up to me I would drop those schools and add Reedley and Sanger
I've posted before create a CYL
Dinuba
Kingsburg
Selma
Reedley
Sanger
and add another team if need be
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 08:41:37 AM
I've posted before create a CYL
Dinuba
Kingsburg
Selma
Reedley
Sanger
and add another team if need be
Not sure Reedley would like that. They would be 0-5 in league every year. They are 0-4 against those pre-season match up this year.
Quote from: MonarchPride on October 14, 2016, 08:46:57 AM
Not sure Reedley would like that. They would be 0-5 in league every year. They are 0-4 against those pre-season match up this year.
I think what is getting lost is NOT JUST FOOTBALL.
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 08:50:11 AM
I think what is getting lost is NOT JUST FOOTBALL.
What are you talking about Willis...It's ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL!!
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
Well, it's pretty much a done deal. Dinuba to Tulare is not a great distance. CVC will never sniff the WYL.
If CVC have More Players on Varisty and JV I think we be .500 team
Posted by: Darth Backer
« on: Today at 08:16:54 AM »
Insert Quote
You guys are missing the main point of these moves. There can no longer be odd amounts of teams in leagues for football reasons. The #1 issue is that the WYL has 7 teams. They are dropping Hanford West to get to 6 teams which places them more than likely into the CSL. Delano wants to move down to Bakersfield for travel reasons which means someone from the CSL has to move to the EYL. Dinuba is by FAR the biggest school in the CSL. It's ridiculous that they compete against Immanuel and CVC. Think about the Dinuba vs. CVC games... 350 vs. 1900.
CVC only 270 Not 350 Students let Clear that from someone say 350
Most is Half Boys and Half Girls at CVC it bout Even at CVC Students Body
I along with 100% of Dinubians do not want to see us in the EYL. To us it would be like taking the Raiders out of the AFC West or the Cowboys out of the NFC East
2002: The NFC West was realigned for 4 members. The Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, and New Orleans Saints all moved to the newly formed NFC South. The Arizona Cardinals joined from the NFC East and the Seattle Seahawks joined from the AFC West.
to Monche
Really CVC Sinked Ship when CVC Girls can handle with WYL team now
If I recall right our valleyball team Beat Redwood not once but twice in valley champs
our lady cavs Soccer handle with WYL Teams go the Valley champs ga,e
Our Boys Golfs win Valley against WYL Teams
Our Boys and Girls tennis team Handle with WYL
Our baseball team Most Handle with WYL Teams this past season
I think we will maybe go 4-6 in Football
Mt Whitney will always have up and down the same with
Hanford wwill be back on top when their need the right guys to play varisty
their will take over again this pasdt few Year
Lemoore was good at a time but their can Rebuild and Regroup be the top 2 Team in WYL with Hanford
Golden west finally got their wing t working with new coach staff this past 3 Season send the Old HC and his staff Leave
But if CVC can add More Player on theirs Roster with 45 or 50 it will take away JV Football program at CVC
Yes CVC JV team is more Biggest then Varisty team JV avg 35 Players and Varisty avg 27 Players
think bout it if their cominbine their wont have Problem have very Deep Depth Chart in CVC
Rememeber past 5 years when I JV was really Good with Tony Deafg and Stock and Etc their all come from JV Team we didn't wont bring thems up as Freshman
I ask 4 years ago But I glad Coach Hughes didn't Listen to me I told everyone 2013 Football Season get ready CVC going have Great 3-4 years with their Soph and jr and Sr class by 2016 or 2017
Look at JJ his was Freshman JV Qb then bring up Last season his Soph year Play Defense
now His Jr year Full time QB at CVC
would be able to Handle with WYL Team today ? well we handle with thems 7-7 Passing league Monche coach neol we handle with Mt whitney and Misson oak and Tulare Union in 7-7 passing league
past 3 Year we handle with the best at Morro bay tourmanet come in top 5 team in Valley here
But like I say If CVC want be with WYL their will have to Get rid JV Program or ask the boys not Play football to Join the team as Freshman to Sr class that will be Deep Death chart for offense and Defense for CVC Both JV and varisty level
Yes we Loss to bakerfield by 2 TD in 7-7 passing league 2 Year ago at Morro Bay
my answer right now No we cant handle with WYL right now after Loss 55 players this Past 3 years from CVC when we are at Loss 13 more this upcoming season and Small number for Jr and Soph class
with tony Draft we have 20 when tony was Qb
2 year ago we Loss other 17 this past season other 18
Look at BCHS few year ago their Loss 18 each season But their have Qb and Rb when their was freshman yes their Play varisty all 4 Year But Qb was transfer from bakerfield to Play Jr and sr year at BCHS from bakerfield that why bakerfield have 3-4 great Qb 3 years ago
we got feeling good group from JV this year Doing good rright now Cvc hopeful Visalia cavs youth Football bring thems Kids to CVC next season to CVC to Play JV or varisty Ball
yes this past 4 years Visalia cavs football youth be the best team from pee wee to Sr class for thems
I Know alots High school fight over Rb from Visalia cavs youth Football team when his a Sr on that team be 9th grade Next season
His Pretty much will be going El D bc the head coach I wish his would go CVC his be great Rb for Cvc for 4 years on varisty Team
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 08:50:11 AM
I think what is getting lost is NOT JUST FOOTBALL.
I've said it a bunch of times! This is a FOOTBALL issue. The CIF has changed the state playoff schedule to help out the winter sports. Teams now have 10 weeks to play 10 games. No more week zero. In the WYL, for example, with 7 teams, Hanford West has a week 10 bye and Hanford has a week 9 bye. It is impossible to find games that week. Therefore, we have to do away with leagues with an odd amount of teams in order to avoid bye weeks in the league schedule. Teams will have to move. Delano moves down to help out the league down there that has odd teams and HW moves out to fix the WYL. Dinuba slides in to adjust the EYL back to even teams... you keep making proposals for an odd numbered CYL. Moving Reedley screws up their even numbered league.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 09:11:02 AM
I've said it a bunch of times! This is a FOOTBALL issue. The CIF has changed the state playoff schedule to help out the winter sports. Teams now have 10 weeks to play 10 games. No more week zero. In the WYL, for example, with 7 teams, Hanford West has a week 10 bye and Hanford has a week 9 bye. It is impossible to find games that week. Therefore, we have to do away with leagues with an odd amount of teams in order to avoid bye weeks in the league schedule. Teams will have to move. Delano moves down to help out the league down there that has odd teams and HW moves out to fix the WYL. Dinuba slides in to adjust the EYL back to even teams... you keep making proposals for an odd numbered CYL. Moving Reedley screws up their even numbered league.
Then why not move say ??? Golden West to EYL. Even up WYL teams, and they can schedule the Saddle game week 2 against El D. Much less travel to Porterville.
Visalia Unified won't break up their teams. And I'm sure the CIF isn't crazy about Dinuba playing against schools with 1000 students...
The key is why is Delano playing with house money? There should be a proposal where they stay. The travel issue carries ZERO weight.
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 09:19:17 AM
The key is why is Delano playing with house money? There should be a proposal where they stay. The travel issue carries ZERO weight.
Because there is a league down there that needs a team and that evens up all of Bakersfield...
Quote from: Glenn on October 14, 2016, 09:06:32 AM
If CVC have More Players on Varisty and JV I think we be .500 team
Posted by: Darth Backer
« on: Today at 08:16:54 AM »
Insert Quote
You guys are missing the main point of these moves. There can no longer be odd amounts of teams in leagues for football reasons. The #1 issue is that the WYL has 7 teams. They are dropping Hanford West to get to 6 teams which places them more than likely into the CSL. Delano wants to move down to Bakersfield for travel reasons which means someone from the CSL has to move to the EYL. Dinuba is by FAR the biggest school in the CSL. It's ridiculous that they compete against Immanuel and CVC. Think about the Dinuba vs. CVC games... 350 vs. 1900.
CVC only 270 Not 350 Students let Clear that from someone say 350
Most is Half Boys and Half Girls at CVC it bout Even at CVC Students Body
I along with 100% of Dinubians do not want to see us in the EYL. To us it would be like taking the Raiders out of the AFC West or the Cowboys out of the NFC East
2002: The NFC West was realigned for 4 members. The Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, and New Orleans Saints all moved to the newly formed NFC South. The Arizona Cardinals joined from the NFC East and the Seattle Seahawks joined from the AFC West.
to Monche
Really CVC Sinked Ship when CVC Girls can handle with WYL team now
If I recall right our valleyball team Beat Redwood not once but twice in valley champs
our lady cavs Soccer handle with WYL Teams go the Valley champs ga,e
Our Boys Golfs win Valley against WYL Teams
Our Boys and Girls tennis team Handle with WYL
Our baseball team Most Handle with WYL Teams this past season
I think we will maybe go 4-6 in Football
Mt Whitney will always have up and down the same with
Hanford wwill be back on top when their need the right guys to play varisty
their will take over again this pasdt few Year
Lemoore was good at a time but their can Rebuild and Regroup be the top 2 Team in WYL with Hanford
Golden west finally got their wing t working with new coach staff this past 3 Season send the Old HC and his staff Leave
But if CVC can add More Player on theirs Roster with 45 or 50 it will take away JV Football program at CVC
Yes CVC JV team is more Biggest then Varisty team JV avg 35 Players and Varisty avg 27 Players
think bout it if their cominbine their wont have Problem have very Deep Depth Chart in CVC
Rememeber past 5 years when I JV was really Good with Tony Deafg and Stock and Etc their all come from JV Team we didn't wont bring thems up as Freshman
I ask 4 years ago But I glad Coach Hughes didn't Listen to me I told everyone 2013 Football Season get ready CVC going have Great 3-4 years with their Soph and jr and Sr class by 2016 or 2017
Look at JJ his was Freshman JV Qb then bring up Last season his Soph year Play Defense
now His Jr year Full time QB at CVC
Come on Glenn, you guys don't even have Freshman sports or half of the other sports that are played in the WYL, we aren't listening to you talk about CVC hanging with the big boys!
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 09:21:12 AM
Because there is a league down there that needs a team and that evens up all of Bakersfield...
The same said league BCHS is trying to join?
They need a new team regardless down there, that other talk was just about shifting some teams around for competitive reasons.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 09:26:35 AM
They need a new team regardless down there, that other talk was just about shifting some teams around for competitive reasons.
SSL has 7 teams. Move one to the other, problem solved.
Darth Backer
I still think D1-2 and D3-4 and D5-6 combine but if team cant handle D3-4 Comibine and 56 togerher Create Division for Teams cant Handle then Division the league there that will be the best bet to do in Division
you maybe will have 5-6 team in league
But I Don't like Jump from D4 to D3 then D2 after 2 year or 3 years win valley or make it the final round
to me it silly do that when you have great Football Program
like sample Liberty from Medrea and Kingsburg
Liberty from D5 to D4
Kingsburg changes in 3 year from D4 to D3 D2 back D3
I think Enrolled is Most Improtment thing keep thems largest school together and Stay away with 700 to 0 School Enroll
look at D1 and D2 their small could end upo Join make it Division together it be tough Make Playoff Beath if 4 from D1 go Playoff D2 bout half thems go Fill 16 team breath maybe go 32 team Playoff
Maybe the same with D3-4 and D5-6 the same
you know DB LOL I going preach this until central section do this Join D 1-2 together and D3-4 and D5-6 together but I would Look at how many teams team go the Playoff and decide if it need go 16 to 32 Team Playoff Backets
But PS it not bout CVC this and that
it best for everyone to Be happy and Put in the right place for the valley
D1-2 call it Division 1
D3-4 call it Division 2
D5-6 call it Division 3
Open Division 4 teams cant handle with D3 to Division 6 be in their own Division
that mean the only way team be Move up or Down from their Enroll not how their do for a Season or make Playoff to valley champs or State Playoff brackets
if their Enroll Drop from 2000 to 1000 then Yesr their Move down
if Enroll from 300 go up to 1200 then yes their Move up that the only way their will move up
let Get rid how their doing in playoff and State Playoff
I Know you going ask me bout what bout league if their in Division 1,2,3 and Open Division
the same way their doing it now Decide like trac can stay the same but other will be Big Decide if you want satill have CSL and WYL SWYL
But I believe enrollets for school in Valley will place thems in the right place if their are bad in Sport to other Sports
Here a Sample
Look at CVC
D2 valleyball could be in their enroll Division 4-5 no matter if their win Valley champs ring
D4 Football their could Enroll be with 4 or 5 Easy no matter how their doing
D4 baseball their can be in D4-5 easy No matter how their doing
the same with others have this some Issure from D1 to D 6 in Sports
I believe their would do good in their own Division by Enroll not move thems around up and down No matter if AD or School think other wise in this Case
Like Garces and Dalno How you speel thems School and others
you can have Outside league like what everyone have in D2-D6 look at CSL
Most thems in 3 Divison for Playoff in valley today
you got have tough Scheldue sometime play with D3-45 or 6 team
Look at Dinuba Schuedle and Kingsburg and Exeter and CVC
yes CVC was only 2 bad team that was Lindsay and Hoover but their are doing better srend CVC beats thems CVC SOS is better from thems Team today the rest was hard team like BCHS and Cheavz and Chowchilla
Most the team CVC play so far the Score was good to know we can Handle with Cheavz for few qtr the same with BCHS until Middle 3-4 qtr when their Just want score 52 point we ask for that from 2 year ago Score 52 on thems
Cheavz could have Score 60 on CVC but their Call the dog off for many Reason like taft game follow week and like Selma Did too bc their Play Dinuba this week
it Just Depend on who you play each week I can Understand that complete
But DB it maybe would Help Us at CVC play WYL team More Make CVC Kids tough and pyscail team too yes CVC maybe struggle for Few year in WYL But Peoples be complain bout why CVC just Play with Visalia school this past 4 year now like ya DB
yes Db we will struggle but it be worth it the kids Pla y Team in town it big challenge it will be alots on the Line not for WYL but City champs on the Line
beat Redwood and Mt Whitney and Golden west for Visalia city champs Like other be Saying for years send CVC got good 3 year ago
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 09:14:09 AM
Visalia Unified won't break up their teams. And I'm sure the CIF isn't crazy about Dinuba playing against schools with 1000 students...
But have no problem the Golden Valley and Ridgeview a playing team with 900 less students in their league. Makes a ton of sense. Or BHS and Garces right cause their enrollment is on par.
Notice that no one wants to move or change. The big schools will take their stance and the little schools will get screwed.
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 09:28:11 AM
SSL has 7 teams. Move one to the other, problem solved.
Let me make this easy for you to understand. The total amount of teams in all of the Bakersfield leagues is odd. When you add Delano (who's other schools already play down there) to Bakersfield, it evens it out. We have a 7 team league here in the Central area. That needs to be fixed. HW struggles in the WYL (last every year in the All-Sports trophy) so it makes sense to move them out. Dinuba is huge for the CSL.
I'm not saying this is set in stone but based on the meeting with the ADs that Trevor Horn tweeted out and the rumors I've heard, I'd be very surprised if it doesn't go down that way, despite how Dinuba feels about it.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 10:42:04 AM
Let me make this easy for you to understand. The total amount of teams in all of the Bakersfield leagues is odd. When you add Delano (who's other schools already play down there) to Bakersfield, it evens it out. We have a 7 team league here in the Central area. That needs to be fixed. HW struggles in the WYL (last every year in the All-Sports trophy) so it makes sense to move them out. Dinuba is huge for the CSL.
I'm not saying this is set in stone but based on the meeting with the ADs that Trevor Horn tweeted out and the rumors I've heard, I'd be very surprised if it doesn't go down that way, despite how Dinuba feels about it.
I feeling Dinuba can handle with the D2 or 3 without CSL look how their handle it now send this past 2-3 year now
yes it Big step for Dinuba Leave CSL but thweir maybe wont win any League title in Different League like CSL
it always between Dinuba and Kingsburg or cvc or Exeter and Selma for league title their could have end up last season win it in 2015 if tDinuba didn't loss key game in the league title like Exeter or Selma and Kingsburg
But I be Sad if Dinuba leave CSl all my Dear friend at Dinuba like HC and Qb Coach Not just Dinuba treat me good it like Selma and Kingsburg and Exeter yes Exeter always good to me when we play thems :-) No Matter what the final score is we always get few laugh
the only school I have more Problem with Immanuel Baseball HC and asst coach and fews Players always good to me at Immanuel But Football and basketball and Few Staff at Immanuel be not good for Between me and Immanuel
I Just Love MonarchPride I Love Pick him send we First meet each other on Cvhspreps
yes exter and cvc just have bad time with Injuryed that go back what MonarchPride ? 2009 with that best Rb I cant think his name but I tho his would be Biggest of Films until I saw him in personal LOL
think bout this in 8 Year from Now when my Daughter 14 will be going to El D she be Mines and I be retired CVC Camerman before 8 year DB and MonarchPride
yes that sign the school for my daughter going in 8 year from now
the Kids as freshman to Sr Live in my Neightborhood for the past 5 Years now
yes one the boy play El D football today we always joke around say you need get your parent Sign you up go CVC LOL
Dinuba vs. EYL teams
2016 (2-1)
2015 (1-2)
2014 (3-0)
2013 (2-1)
2012 (2-1)
That's a combined 10-5 vs. the EYL since they started scheduling those schools in the pre-season back in 2012. They'll be just fine. They are also 4-3 vs. WYL schools in that time frame.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 11:09:25 AM
Dinuba vs. EYL teams
2016 (2-1)
2015 (1-2)
2014 (3-0)
2013 (2-1)
2012 (2-1)
That's a combined 10-5 vs. the EYL since they started scheduling those schools in the pre-season back in 2012. They'll be just fine.
see that true Fact rhere DB I agree Dinuba will be fine But Play full Schedule of WYL and their Divisin can beat thems going be huge step for thems if HC Stay there for 20 years from now to 2027 when that Coaches staff Retired from Dinuba it wont be the same look at Kingsburg Staff but their barley get it together now
But it the right choice for Dinuba for Football program their going enroll almost 1200 every year no matter who thr head coach at Dinuba is
Like CVC their going Avg 248 or 280 every year we got make Central Section Agree with us Enroll is More Importment to their school Program of Win fw valley champs title or State title
you maybe wont hear bout Georgia how their did all praivte school in State but their make their Only Playoff brackets Last season
But the League the same but when it time for Playoff GHSA Decide the top 16 team for Publis and Praivte school bracket today
in Alabama today their have AISA what that mean it praivte League for all the Small praivte School like Glenwood their call it AISA in State of Alabama the same for texas Doing that program too
too bad Few Section can get together be praivte league with all praivte school in California make is CCIF
Glenn
I think you are referring to the 2008-09 season when they had Cameron Loeffler at tailback. That was a great Exeter team that went 9-1 in the regular season. The only loss coming to CVC 14-7. That team also had Tyler Houk and Jaycee Totty, all of which went on to play in college. If I'm not mistaken CVC lost to Kingsburg in the regular season but beat them in the playoffs.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 10:42:04 AM
Let me make this easy for you to understand. The total amount of teams in all of the Bakersfield leagues is odd. When you add Delano (who's other schools already play down there) to Bakersfield, it evens it out. We have a 7 team league here in the Central area. That needs to be fixed. HW struggles in the WYL (last every year in the All-Sports trophy) so it makes sense to move them out. Dinuba is huge for the CSL.
I'm not saying this is set in stone but based on the meeting with the ADs that Trevor Horn tweeted out and the rumors I've heard, I'd be very surprised if it doesn't go down that way, despite how Dinuba feels about it.
Thanks for dumbing that down for me, but actually all Bakersfield schools have 6 teams except SWYL (5) and SSL (7) so 7-1=6 and 5+1 = 6 . I did graduate from Dinuba so we might have to have another member check on that for us.
As I stated before, which you obviously didn't care to read. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Dinuba does not fear in the least competition in the EYL, and find it humorous that you imply such things. We are not trying to Sandbag (which quite a few teams are allowed to do),we are not HUGE considering the difference between us and the next largest school is 100 students or less.
I just take issue with the fact that traditions have to take a back seat to backroom politics (The rumors you heard) and predetermined agendas.
Quote from: MonarchPride on October 14, 2016, 11:15:35 AM
Glenn
I think you are referring to the 2008-09 season when they had Cameron Loeffler at tailback. That was a great Exeter team that went 9-1 in the regular season. The only loss coming to CVC 14-7. That team also had Tyler Houk and Jaycee Totty, all of which went on to play in college. If I'm not mistaken CVC lost to Kingsburg in the regular season but beat them in the playoffs.
Nope we Loss Both game against Kingsburg when trey bray was Jr Qb that year
we tho Fog would Slow down trey bray threw the bomb against Us Giggles but the Run and shorts pass in the Fog Didn't happen at all
Darth Backer
If I was run the show at Central Section Offical I would Put team in the right polace bc their Enroll or you can join Out of section other Zone
New league
Enroll More Importment
Caruthers High School(D5) 580
Fowler (D5) 769
Parlier(D5) 785
Woodlake D5 663
Corcoran D5 847
Sierra Pacific (Hanford) D5 748
CVC D5 269
Immanuel D5 275
that mean all of thems be able go D5 Playoff
how I figure that out enroll all thems under 900 to 0 DB
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 11:21:01 AM
Thanks for dumbing that down for me, but actually all Bakersfield schools have 6 teams except SWYL (5) and SSL (7) so 7-1=6 and 5+1 = 6 . I did graduate from Dinuba so we might have to have another member check on that for us.
As I stated before, which you obviously didn't care to read. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Dinuba does not fear in the least competition in the EYL, and find it humorous that you imply such things. We are not trying to Sandbag (which quite a few teams are allowed to do),we are not HUGE considering the difference between us and the next largest school is 100 students or less.
I just take issue with the fact that traditions have to take a back seat to backroom politics (The rumors you heard) and predetermined agendas.
I guess I couldn't understand the irrational need to stay playing against CVC and Immanuel when you have 1900 students.
And...
High Desert- 5
South Sequoia- 7
South Yosemite- 6
South East Yosemite- 5
South West Yosemite- 6
Does that equal an odd number to you? Delano gives them 30 teams down there. I'm sure you just missed the High Desert League.
Never thought that Dinuba playing Exeter week 10 was much of a true "Rival" game...
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 12:00:46 PM
I guess I couldn't understand the irrational need to stay playing against CVC and Immanuel when you have 1900 students.
Private schools out of the equation. It is pretty much the same difference 800+ students from Redwood and Hanford in the WYL as it is Dinuba and Exeter in the CSL. I get it you want the ugly stepchild that pees the bed (HW) out of your league, so that YOUR situation and needs are met, and so that WYL traditions are still well intact.
It's cool you feel that way, but at least come out and say it, and not bash us by pretending that somehow we are scared to join the EYL just because we want to keep our traditions.
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 12:09:56 PM
Private schools out of the equation. It is pretty much the same difference 800+ students from Redwood and Hanford in the WYL as it is Dinuba and Exeter in the CSL. I get it you want the ugly stepchild that pees the bed (HW) out of your league, so that YOUR situation and needs are met, and so that WYL traditions are still well intact.
It's cool you feel that way, but at least come out and say it, and not bash us by pretending that somehow we are scared to join the EYL just because we want to keep our traditions.
for my expreince to your Eye and Db
I User to that back home too
When pacelli is 300 Students and brookstone 275 Students play in Largest Rleague with Greenville Avg 1700 Students and Manchester ( Avg 1600 Student but Georgia make changes have praivte 16 team Playoff and Publis Playoff bracket )
I don't matter if we CVC play Largest school Like Selma and Exeter and Kignsburg and Dinuba Cvc sometime can handle with thems at time Like JV or varisty level DB
I have no Problem with Dinuba but when their Most have 2 of CSL team Biggest OL and DL and Packed their sideline with Players I sometime think Dinuba and Kingsburg and Selma need Move on new Chapter with new teams their can handle with
I sometime for Dinuba But sometime their need Move on with Life with traditaion some you got Do what best for your team compitation Right guys no matter if this Hurt ya
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 12:00:46 PM
I guess I couldn't understand the irrational need to stay playing against CVC and Immanuel when you have 1900 students.
And...
High Desert- 5
South Sequoia- 7
South Yosemite- 6
South East Yosemite- 5
South West Yosemite- 6
Does that equal an odd number to you? Delano gives them 30 teams down there. I'm sure you just missed the High Desert League.
Never thought that Dinuba playing Exeter week 10 was much of a true "Rival" game...
Wow, had to bring High Desert into the mix huh lol. A league with
6 teams ok. Come on Bud give it a rest already.
Like I said I get it. The all mighty WYL will be taken care of , and we will have to suck it up and play in the BIG SCARY EYL. I am just speaking from a personal preference, and every argument that you have had for or against has been shot down. Because there is no logic other than to ensure the WYL has 6 teams.
It's not like that. I'm simply stating what the CIF is going to do and that I actually think it makes the most sense for the entire section.
And as far the the Central Sequoia League traditions are concerned... give me a break. No other league has changed as much as that league over the years. If you want to talk about long-standing traditions, that league really doesn't have any when you try to compare it to other leagues in the area.
Quote from: Glenn on October 14, 2016, 12:17:47 PM
for my expreince to your Eye and Db
I User to that back home too
When pacelli is 300 Students and brookstone 275 Students play in Largest Rleague with Greenville Avg 1700 Students and Manchester ( Avg 1600 Student but Georgia make changes have praivte 16 team Playoff and Publis Playoff bracket )
I don't matter if we CVC play Largest school Like Selma and Exeter and Kignsburg and Dinuba Cvc sometime can handle with thems at time Like JV or varisty level DB
I have no Problem with Dinuba but when their Most have 2 of CSL team Biggest OL and DL and Packed their sideline with Players I sometime think Dinuba and Kingsburg and Selma need Move on new Chapter with new teams their can handle with
I sometime for Dinuba But sometime their need Move on with Life with traditaion some you got Do what best for your team compitation Right guys no matter if this Hurt ya
Or maybe move CVC and Immanuel
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 12:18:53 PM
It's not like that. I'm simply stating what the CIF is going to do and that I actually think it makes the most sense for the entire section.
And as far the the Central Sequoia League traditions are concerned... give me a break. No other league has changed as much as that league over the years. If you want to talk about long-standing traditions, that league really doesn't have any when you try to compare it to other leagues in the area.
I agree Look at my Former 2 High school their cant barley make schedule to Play each other after 70 years Rivarly game like Jordan vs Columbus when their league fill with 8-9 school in their league
for Eye I will be all for that tho then Eye
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
Wow, had to bring High Desert into the mix huh lol. A league with 6 teams ok. Come on Bud give it a rest already.
Like I said I get it. The all mighty WYL will be taken care of , and we will have to suck it up and play in the BIG SCARY EYL. I am just speaking from a personal preference, and every argument that you have had for or against has been shot down. Because there is no logic other than to ensure the WYL has 6 teams.
I didn't bring them into the mix, the CIF did. You act like I'm the one pulling the strings here man. But on a personal level, yes, I do believe that the traditions of the WYL are far more important and long-standing than those in the CSL. The CSL has no Milk Can or Cowhide... I guess the closest thing is Kingsburg vs. Selma?
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 12:18:53 PM
It's not like that. I'm simply stating what the CIF is going to do and that I actually think it makes the most sense for the entire section.
And as far the the Central Sequoia League traditions are concerned... give me a break. No other league has changed as much as that league over the years. If you want to talk about long-standing traditions, that league really doesn't have any when you try to compare it to other leagues in the area.
Selma, Dinuba, and Kingsburg have been staples in the CSL. With the exception in the early 2000's when Dinuba fell on hard times. Not our fault we weren't the second high school built in California after BHS (joking but you get the point)
As recent as 2004 or 2005 it wasn't even called the CSL... c'mon man!
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 12:20:10 PM
Or maybe move CVC and Immanuel
But we Know this site will get mad if CVc and Immanuel spilt valley champs title and State title in Division 5 or 6 Peoples will always complain why Immanuel and CVC cant play with the Big boys
Db
I didn't bring them into the mix, the CIF did. You act like I'm the one pulling the strings here man. But on a personal level, yes, I do believe that the traditions of the WYL are far more important and long-standing than those in the CSL. The CSL has no Milk Can or Cowhide... I guess the closest thing is Kingsburg vs. Selma
CVc VS Immanuel for the Boot and Chowchilla vs CVC for HWy 99 Sign and BCHS Vs Cvc Milk tophic But that go for Fall Season with all teams play in Fall it Winter and Spring trophic too for BCHS VS CVC games
that the only team in CSl have trophixc
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 12:23:30 PM
I didn't bring them into the mix, the CIF did. You act like I'm the one pulling the strings here man. But on a personal level, yes, I do believe that the traditions of the WYL are far more important and long-standing than those in the CSL. The CSL has no Milk Can or Cowhide... I guess the closest thing is Kingsburg vs. Selma?
I agree, and I am not implying you are pulling the strings. Just a healthy conversation. Regardless of our enrollment it is still small town football, something you probably don't understand. Playing the neighboring small towns for bragging rights and pride instead of a can of milk or piece of leather means more to us than you could understand. Had Orosi not fallen on hard times the Dinuba/Orosi rivalry was the second longest running in the state at the time(2006 I believe it ended). Not understating how much those trophies mean to those young men, coaches, and communities, but ours means a lot to us too.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 12:26:44 PM
As recent as 2004 or 2005 it wasn't even called the CSL... c'mon man!
Then why do I have a plaque in my office that say 1998-99 CSL Champions.
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
I agree, and I am not implying you are pulling the strings. Just a healthy conversation. Regardless of our enrollment it is still small town football, something you probably don't understand. Playing the neighboring small towns for bragging rights and pride instead of a can of milk or piece of leather means more to us than you could understand. Had Orosi not fallen on hard times the Dinuba/Orosi rivalry was the second longest running in the state at the time(2006 I believe it ended). Not understating how much those trophies mean to those young men, coaches, and communities, but ours means a lot to us too.
eye i can feeling your pain there
it the same for Small town Like Barnerville ga and Manchester their just add new High school in Manchester ga this year
I was part with small town with 1 one High school that was Pheinx city ala central HS
alots complain from State of Alabama from High school Ad and Head coach why not central Play some the best football get rid play Columbus ga schools after dimaiting thems every year in 19050 to 1990s when Central Decide cut Rivarly against Columbus Schools fr Football game it the same with Dinuba and KHS and Selma their can Play with everybody No matter what that traditaion be this past 10 year or 8 years ago
it can be Orosi VS Dunbua Rivarly game no matter how bad thems team is that tradition More the coach or school Office stop that rivalry game the Players will get up for Rivarly game like that anyday of the week trust me
Just Like Dinuba vs Selma or KHS VS Dinuba games
Just think bout if was not Nomore CVc Vs Immanuel or CVC Vs BCHS Rivarly it will break Both School Office Heart apart
But Life still go on trust me if you Don't play teams for 9 years in a row
send I move here Join cvc Dinuba and KHS and Selma have their up and down season But their be the king of CSL send 2008 few year it be Dinuba year and KHS year Selma is very close be their year too
I but CVC Fans and Immanuel fans would love it not play Dinuba and KHS and Selma and Exeter anymore I Like the challenge it do Build up Charcter and Stronger for CVC No matter what their record is
it will be good Impact for Dinuba Move in Huge way for thems Compiation play D2 team and League
it can be the same with KHS and Selma
Eye...
I'm having a hard time understanding the beef. Last time I checked there is nothing from keeping Dinuba from playing those teams. In a 6 team league you have 5 non league games to schedule whomever you choose. Exeter has played Woodlake going on 100 years...the league placement over that time span has shifted several times. None of your arguments hold any weight. FACT: Dinuba has 1800 plus student body and regardless of the sport has no business in the CSL anymore, and like I said Selma is pushing that way too. Rather than make a complete overhaul it's easier to make the small adjustments with as few teams as possible. That solution makes sense.
Quote from: MonarchPride on October 14, 2016, 12:56:26 PM
Eye...
I'm having a hard time understanding the beef. Last time I checked there is nothing from keeping Dinuba from playing those teams. In a 6 team league you have 5 non league games to schedule whomever you choose. Exeter has played Woodlake going on 100 years...the league placement over that time span has shifted several times. None of your arguments hold any weight. FACT: Dinuba has 1800 plus student body and regardless of the sport has no business in the CSL anymore, and like I said Selma is pushing that way too. Rather than make a complete overhaul it's easier to make the small adjustments with as few teams as possible. That solution makes sense.
As I have stated it's a personal preference. I do not speak for the school, just one man's opinion.
By that logic Hanford 1300+ or Mt. Whitney 1400+ and Redwood 2200 shouldn't be in the same league, but should schedule each other in week's 1-5.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 12:26:44 PM
As recent as 2004 or 2005 it wasn't even called the CSL... c'mon man!
Back to CVc and WYL I would love the challenge go to WYl Play Visalia school we maybe end up Upset someone
bc it would Make Players as freshman or soph maybe want go CVC
the same way like my hometown doing today pacelli and Brookstone their Play their Local School in Sports you be Shock how Praivte school beat Local Publis School with 1500 to 280 from praivte school brookstone and pacelli it happen when Jordan 990 beat pacelli 269 and 269 beat Jordan 990 Students
you sometime have to take the high risk maybe the Student play JV or Varslity lever How thems coaches doing at praivte school
it not Recutier it up to the kid If his want go that praivte school be starter of be on bench for 10 Games too
I see Kids from Praivte school go Publis after Play each other or Publis Student go praivte school it happen it not Recuiter it depend who Coaches staff treat thems Kids from Freshman to Sr year too Db
it the same with KHS and Dinuba or Reedley Most thems backup go to Immanuel
sr Night you will hear the word this play name is _____ ____ his from Kingsburg Ca his Sr today at Kingsburg the Same with Dinuba Ca and Reedley and Visalia ca
I will say to myself how did Dinuba and KHS and Exeter or Selma Miss out this player not for him travel so far if their Play Immanuel Just Like basketball team at Immanuel Most thems is 30 or 45 Min drive where their Live at sometime Bus will go that route get thems
it not Like Immanuel and CVC and other schools in the valley have Bus service like back home with praivte school in Georgia or Columbus ga
it Different Like pacelli and Brookstone parents have to take thems from K - 10 grade when their turn 16 to get Drive Lic
think bout How much Impact that be for CVC play Local team in Visalia ca it be Huge for CVC Future
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 01:11:34 PM
As I have stated it's a personal preference. I do not speak for the school, just one man's opinion.
By that logic Hanford 1300+ or Mt. Whitney 1400+ and Redwood 2200 shouldn't be in the same league, but should schedule each other in week's 1-5.
we have no control of thems numbers Hanford beat Redwood and Mt Whitney and sometime Mt whitney or Redwood upset Hanford that how it go in league when you have 1300 and Plsu in one League
pretty sure Dinuba be a good add to WYL too
Well, non of it may happen, there is also talk of just moving the start date back in our section. Game 0 would be the first week of school and non of the changes would be needed. The only for sure date is that the valley title games will now be played Thanksgiving. They may drop the 10 to play 10 rule they've been discussing.
Quote from: The Eye in the Sky on October 14, 2016, 12:33:28 PM
Then why do I have a plaque in my office that say 1998-99 CSL Champions.
That only proves my point even more. You don't see the WYL changing names all the time.
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 01:39:10 PM
Well, non of it may happen, there is also talk of just moving the start date back in our section. Game 0 would be the first week of school and non of the changes would be needed. The only for sure date is that the valley title games will now be played Thanksgiving. They may drop the 10 to play 10 rule they've been discussing.
Db you know what bring to my attention you maybe agree with this
I wonder if Central Section and CIF is Planning big Step for Get rid Valley champs Playoff and just add Big State Playoff with 16 team Playoff if CIF and central section want start football early 2nd week of August going start Early in 2017-18 school year
it could be Possible that what going on
I heard their still work on Playoff for baseball
Why Starter early Football Season 2nd week august for game we have 4 week of August the first game of the season Now going back up 2 More week in August in week 2 to start our first game of the season
it something fishy going on with CIF and central section want Start practice begun July and have 2nd week Preseason games or scrimming Start 3 week in August
that mean 7-7 passig league for June got be complete Done by end of june to Rest the game for 2day practice or Open the Football Season for Full Prictice 1 or 2 week of July
that mean Praivte school or Publis school if their family planning have acotaion in July just went down the sink ship in July
bc Most Familyalways take their vacotaion in Middle or 2nd week of July
that sound like Alabama and ga and Florida doing now
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
That only proves my point even more. You don't see the WYL changing names all the time.
Come on Backer, we both know we are talking apples and oranges.
All this hulabaloo for having to drive an extra 20 miles. Try being Coalinga, Taft, Tehachipi or Yosemite.
Quote from: MonarchPride on October 14, 2016, 02:28:52 PM
All this hulabaloo for having to drive an extra 20 miles. Try being Coalinga, Taft, Tehachipi or Yosemite.
I feeling ya I did that 4 year ago at COS Softball team when their travel to Taft Jr college OMG that was Long ride LOL
Quote from: Darth Backer on October 14, 2016, 12:00:46 PM
I guess I couldn't understand the irrational need to stay playing against CVC and Immanuel when you have 1900 students.
And...
High Desert- 5
If I'm not mistaken Boron will move to CS as a member of HD next year ...
Quote from: MonarchPride on October 14, 2016, 02:28:52 PM
All this hulabaloo for having to drive an extra 20 miles. Try being Coalinga, Taft, Tehachipi or Yosemite.
Or Bishop!