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#1
Central Section Football / Re: Shafter
November 23, 2023, 05:21:00 PM
Quote from: izne1home on November 23, 2023, 11:51:50 AM
Glenn, you know more about the rules than me, but the way it was explained to me is that the jersey number rules do not apply on punts or PATs.  This was a PAT, so the snapper's number didn't make him eligible.  As the snapper, who was covered by other linemen (not a swinging gate)he was ineligible regardless of his number. 

Loss of down, game over.

Snapper  is  Not Offical  Center    and Snapper  have #3   Not  50-79   Number  it  in Rule Book
According to 7-2-5b I would say yes he is eligible as long as...
1. snapper has an eligible number and is on the end of the line...and...
2. it is done on 4th down or a try  FG  ...and...
3. its not done on 1st, second or 3rd down...and...
4. the snapper is not replacing one of the #50-79 guys. (But, we have all seen #50-79 guys legally line up on the end of the line and..the clincher...it may be hard to convince a coach that the opppents normal snapper is not usually a #50-79 guy who was replaced by #3 who caught the pass and scored the winning point
 

If everybody read   7-2-5 b   Rule   in Book  it   in Black and White  in Rules Book 
Why    Nobody   Dont try   it  bc their  think  it not legal  Play  But  if you read the Rules   7-2-5b   in Book     it  say   it    there 
No matter   if Holder  Get bad snap from Snapper  his can still go  out  for Pass Bc  #

#2
Central Section Football / Re: Shafter
November 23, 2023, 01:21:58 AM
Quote from: izne1home on November 22, 2023, 09:35:13 PM
https://footballscoop.com/news/officials-take-unprecedented-step-after-missed-call-decides-playoff-game-dubbed-extra-point-gate

First published comment I've seen from Torres:

At that meeting, according to ABC 23, Torres officials were asked their position on the end of the game, and their district athletic director shared that the officials called the game to the best of their ability and didn't catch it, and added that everyone is a beneficiary, and sometimes a loser of those calls and that the result should stand.

Translation - shnit happens.  Get over it.  If you expect us to do the right and admirable thing, think again.

  i Know  Team easrly  in Season  did this same Play    for  Extra  Point  for Gate  their  didnt  Get  in trouble     
their snapper   is Low Number  0-49

Shafter   maybe right but  in Rule book say     something  else     Officals  make the right call     

If shafter  Protest   it  Duty the game      If  CIF central  section Office   Read the rule Book  it Legal  play   


that Mean Shafter would Loss the appeal   
#3
Central Section Football / Re: Shafter
November 22, 2023, 06:50:45 PM
Rememeber  your Snapper  is Not  Current  Center for your Offense      His come  in Snap  it to your Holding   or  Punter   

  If  his was Regaulr  Center  for  torros     with 50-75  Numer jesery      on Extra Point this illegal  but    it  Snapper Not center    with  0-49   Number Jesery    his Eligible 
#4
Central Section Football / Re: Shafter
November 22, 2023, 06:34:50 PM
Dont Get Mad at Me   on this     Snapper  can  go Out for Pass    on FG attempt  or Punt  Team  Formation 

we  Just  Dont User  it Much Bc alots  Didnt  Knew this rule   is Legal 
#5
Central Section Football / Re: Shafter
November 22, 2023, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Glenn on November 22, 2023, 06:24:58 PM
Snapper, not center -- he's not the center of anything in that formation.

It's not going to be specifically covered. He's an end, by rule, and he's eligible by number. Isn't that enough?

Jusat  Punter  Or  Kick Extra Point  or Fg attempt      Set  the  Snapper   is  Eligible  Bc  his  not Offical  Center


Surehands, back to your OP. Did we answer your question? "Can the center be eligible for a pass on the swing gate if he has the correct number and is the end player on one end of the line? Where is this covered in High School rulebook?"

According to 7-2-5b I would say yes he is eligible as long as...
1. snapper has an eligible number and is on the end of the line...and...
2. it is done on 4th down or a try  FG  ...and...
3. its not done on 1st, second or 3rd down...and...
4. the snapper is not replacing one of the #50-79 guys. (But, we have all seen #50-79 guys legally line up on the end of the line and..the clincher...it may be hard to convince a coach that the opppents normal snapper is not usually a #50-79 guy who was replaced by #22 who caught the pass and scored the winning point(s)).


I am truly not trying to be difficult  Just seems like they could clarify and simplify this one a little more   
#6
Central Section Football / Re: Shafter
November 22, 2023, 06:24:58 PM
Quote from: Glenn on November 22, 2023, 06:13:43 PM
What Is The Definition Of Center Eligible In Football?
1. A center eligible occurs when a team sets a unique formation on the line of scrimmage. The snapping player lines up on the end, which makes him an eligible receiver. Teams in the NFL typically do not use this play unless they are setting for a trick play. Center eligible is more commonly used at amateur levels because the unique formation may confuse the opposing team.

Snapper, not center -- he's not the center of anything in that formation.

It's not going to be specifically covered. He's an end, by rule, and he's eligible by number. Isn't that enough?
#7
Central Section Football / Re: Shafter
November 22, 2023, 06:13:43 PM
What Is The Definition Of Center Eligible In Football?
1. A center eligible occurs when a team sets a unique formation on the line of scrimmage. The snapping player lines up on the end, which makes him an eligible receiver. Teams in the NFL typically do not use this play unless they are setting for a trick play. Center eligible is more commonly used at amateur levels because the unique formation may confuse the opposing team.
#8
Central Section Football / Re: Shafter
November 22, 2023, 06:07:55 PM
Players who wear numbers from 50 to 79 are, by rule, prohibited from catching or touching forward passes if their team is in possession of the ball and may not line up in a position that allows them to do so, unless explicitly indicated to the referee during a tackle-eligible play   

this  is Legel   Play  Bc  Center   got  LOw  Number   on him   his Play RB  or Wide Rec
#9
Dont think   it  good time  say Hey  we can Grab glenn  to be  our End Zone camera  or Press box  or  His can Help  us    with  who  what glenn think what that other team going  Do  to US       

Sorry tell ya  But   i Not  Look for New Job   i  Kinky Like  sit at Home watching  Game  online    Guess their Playbook    their run    LOL 


#10
Central Section Football / Hey everyone Freinds read
November 21, 2023, 06:50:58 AM
Hey 

i  think  it time  come  out closet    why  i Not  Doing  CVC  end zone camera   and Press  Bos   for  10   week send   Before  Bakerfield  christian  VS  CVC   

Let me  Explain  it to your all   

me and Lori   not  Couple  send  June 11     We  Broken up   i Be  going  thru   alot  with Broken up   

with Kid  involed    in this 

I did  Bad thing   online  got caught   of  it 

my  ex gf  be  tell me  what  i need to do   
Like  I cant Move  in   with woman  or  she Live with me    if  i Get  my Own Place         

she told me   if  i Leave  she will take  my money  away  from me 

it be alot Hard time for me  First 3-4 month  from June  to sept   

then  i got  in More  trouble     i have step down   Before  Bakerfield  christian At cvc     But  i do Help  out  with  Advice and  my  tho wqhat   team will do against CVC  Past 11  week     

  when  i can come back to CVC   Games  ?   well  Never   

i  going do  End zone camera and Press Box camera  again ?  well   let say    i retired     

i can  do hudl statistics   at home   or watch  Films   at home   

Yes  14 year  Great  Ride  for me    at CVC   

im 53    it  was time  for me  Retired  and Step down   at CVC   

But  i do  Help Little watching  Films for CVC 

Do you know  i be  right  at  80%  season and  Playoff    what   other Team  do to CVC  after 11 week  ? this is  true   i maybe  will MIss  call   watch the game  But  i will Get  it  right  Nexst time     

Like  Here a run  or Pass   

Yes  i did that Duty JV team Play at CVC      i will Text Message    my freind say  their going pass  here      then TM  again say here come Pass 

So  you  wonder why   i Not doing  End zone  camera   or press box  camera     i Have  Step down      week 3 

i am waiting  on Apartment  Complex   to Get call to Move  in my New Apartment   if their call me  i Have to June 2024    If their dont call me   i maybe end up   Group home  to Live     
Yes Lori   Help me  Not Kick me  out to Street    to Live  with nowhere to go     

i Not part  Lori Family      their all want me  Move  out   to Street     Not  take space  in Living room   
Yes  i Live  on Couch  at Lori  House   right now     

#11
when  i was  Chain crew   in Columbus Ga     i was   on Offical   crew 
columbus ga officials association


   we have  Meeting  Sunday  Night   6  pm to  8:30   

we talk bout  the  Game  we  Do     

Like  le   i Just sit there    for 2 Hours  say  Yes and No   

when  i Do  Chain crew   at Middle Football  and  Scoreboard Keeper  for  Clock   or  chain crew   

Yes  Back  in Georgia        you have Offical  Clock Managernt   Not   the school Staff   doing  it       
Like football  or  Basketball  or  Wrestler   

when  i Dont have No game      all the team Out  of town   Brookstone  Christian 
Ben say   glenn can you  run  Clock  and scoreboard     at Brookstone   School this friday   ?  Yes sir  i can
  that type  job  i Have before Move to California   

we need More  Offical   for all Sports   bc  Many  of thems  Quiter  Bc  Coaches  and  Fans   today     their dont  wont  do  it  bc  you  will  Blame thems  Bad call   or  why  you  Didnt threw the flag  on that   
we need be  blessed  we Have Offical will call the game      No Matter   if their  Get call  wrong     
bc  one day   we wont have  Officals  or Umpires   or  Basketball Officals    one day   then  What the Kids  going do  then?   



#12
Quote from: good #2 on November 20, 2023, 05:04:04 PM
The obvious one - Shafter vs. Torres
Clovis North v. Clovis East - Heard a call made against CE may have changed the game
Central v. Liberty - Heard some talk about the officiating in this game too.
Also, heard of other issues of professionalism or lack there of in another game.

Just want to get some input on what people feel about the change from 5 officials that work together all year during the season up until the quarter finals to 7 officials from the semi finals on that are mixed crews (meaning a crew made up of officials from different areas of our section) that have not worked together all year and officials not necessarily working in the position that they have worked in all year (ie.. a normal white hat being a back judge).

I, for one, don't see any good coming from adding 2 more officials......especially guys that don't know each other.
With 7 there seems to be more penalties called.  Are these guys trying to show that they are relevant??  Do we really need more penalties at this point in the season, or should we just let the kids decide the game.

What do you think???

  i always  thinlk  it  Happen  in Many  Game   in Valley   and State  and NCAA  and  Pro     for  Not the right call

Like  Holding Call     when films  show   it was not  Holding Call    in Valley champs   in Overtime   
pass interference
interception  could  have end  a Valley champs Game few year   ago 


I, for one, don't see any good coming from adding 2 more officials......especially guys that don't know each other.
With 7 there seems to be more penalties called.  Are these guys trying to show that they are relevant??  Do we really need more penalties at this point in the season, or should we just let the kids decide the game.

don't see any good coming from adding 2 more officials ?  it Hard  Get Officals    in  Football game    More eye  on the field     from   9  Officals   

we  always  going  have Bad Call   at time   


Do  it  good Idea  Bring  in Instant  Repeat    ?   NFL  trying    for  Flag  pass interference    you  see how that turn  out  for  Year     for  NFL Team  try  it  say  that pass interference    But  On Instant  repeat    take up   Much the  game  time  Do thems  and  80%   pass interference was  Current   on Instant Repeat    and  20%  Bad call    on pass interference

Like  Cheifs  VS  eagles     and Other NFL   games     their say  that pass interference   and  this One Holding  call   

Like NCAA  football  game   Some  PLay By Play     say this could be pass interference    But their didnt  call  it     

  But  we will always  Get  No whisper Blew  and  sometime     Officals  Head  Whisper  Blew   after a play   whos know   
you  sometime   going get the right call  in the game   But  other side that team  Maybe  Disagree  on the Call    by Officals  if their  have Ipad  on that sideline  or  see  it  on Big scoradboard  Screen   

  Do we Need Instant Reply     in High school     for  For  Game  like  Shafter   

we have  Right  tools   NHFS network    their  Get  Sound the game   without  Nobody  talk       only  Sound  on the field and  Standing   

when  Most     49   State  have  Hudi   Camera    System     it wont be  alot   Install   Instant  Reply     the  game    on a Play  By Coach  or  their  Camera Systems   their  add     Send Coro19   



   

#13
i did  G3et reply  back from CIF  Central section 

Hi, Glenn. The Section does not dictate how schools use their camera systems, if they have them. If schools have the cameras, they usually have their own YouTube channel or school site they stream from. NFHS has priority during playoffs, but it doesn't stream all the games.

You might want to ask the schools if they plan to broadcast each week in the days leading up to games. They don't always send us their schedules! 

Overall  School  could  Board their game  if their have youtube channel  or  Hudi TV Program  or school  Camera Program   
#14
Let make this clear  Before  Coro19     happen      still   sometime  in News and off the news     today      we still  Get fans  go  Buy tickets    for Games       

Like  Playoff     today 

But remember    alot  Free  watch High school  sports Bc this coro19   Stuff   

when NHFS and  Peoples  got their  Live stream  do their Sports program     
Like youtube 

Cvc and Bakerfield  christian    was  Part  Live stream   on youtube    then golden West and Redwood and  Kingsburg  and Mclane   show their Regualr  game and Playoff     now     their say  their cant show  Playoff Games      Before      their want  add  it to NHFS  Network  for Pay

GHSA  trying  Get    GPB Sports is looking for Georgia high school football players who are ... Georgia high school football. On this episode, Jon and Hannah look at the matchups ...
Missing: GB ‎| Show results with

Cancel their Boardcast    to show free  Weekend  football game and show  State champs  games   
their been doing  it  send 1997 
#15
Centennial vs Madera- I can see an upset here.
Centennial 42 Madera 7- I could not have been more wrong here, looks like Centennial is finally rolling, wild what happens when they don't turn the ball over.

Centennial at Lemoore    who Win 

Lemoore   Struggle  the  first 1-2 Qtr Before their Roll   

to  38-22   over Sunnyside

Lemoore   only  score  10  Point   after Halftime     

their barley   Beat Sunnyside      after halftime 

Halftime   
Lemoore  28 
Sunnyside  14   


Lemoore  10   
Sunnyside  8   

#16
Radio and Television Broadcast Information The CIF Central Section retains the broadcasting rights and cable and webcasting rights for all playoff contests, and permission for the same must be secured from the CIF Central Section Commissioner, at least 24 hours prior to the contest. Upon completion of a contract with the CIF Central Section Office, the Section will notify the host school. The fees, paid directly to the CIF Central Section are as follows 
Radio: Games up to Finals $150
Football Finals $200
Basketball Finals Contact Office

Television:
For replay $500
Live up to Finals $1500
Live for Finals $3000

Live Stream/Webcast:
Football Preliminary Games $500
Football Finals $1000
Basketball Preliminary Games $250
Basketball Finals $750
Prelims (all other sports) $150 Finals (all other sports) $300
#17
 their  ccan Live stream their 1-2-3 round Games  on Hudi tv and  Youtube  or  your  School  got  Hudl or  Program  with Show  Games       Like Mclane and Bakerfield christian    do  their Playoff Game    their  dont    do champs game 
we all know we have Pay for watching Live stream    for Valley champs game  and  State Champs   game   
Not  many Peoples  cant afford  NHFS  Network    11.99   when   what If your Team Loss   you  still Pay thems for MONTH    not that one game

when  thing  is expance     Like  Gas and Power and  Food and  Price 

then     NHFS  Network   Make  school  PPV  their Game     all Season   from NHFS network and then  Pay for the Playoff    But     other  school    Like Mclane  and Bakerfield Christian and  Kingsburg  and Golden West and Redwood      Do their  youtube    Mission Oak   on HUdi TV show their  game   
#18
  UGA   going be  only Team win  in SEc for Bow  game   

Purdue Beat LSU
Kansas State  Upset Alabama 
#19
UGA  going spank Ohio State    4 sure after  Ohio State   few STarter Players    Have say this week  their wont Play in Game 
#20
Central Section Football / 4 qtr Kingsburg 42 TU 21
September 23, 2022, 09:52:29 PM
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