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Good Luck Clovis !

Started by ValleyWatcher, March 24, 2014, 08:17:45 AM

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Ty Cobb

Quote from: Squints on March 28, 2014, 09:40:57 AM
Tough Loss.  Hate to see them lose like that. So heartbreaking.  Maybe coach should have just put in Crowley to get the last out in the 6th instead, but hindsight is 20/20

Gatewood could not throw for one out? One out! .... Whatever.

Harry Carey

Quote from: Ty Cobb on March 28, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
Gatewood could not throw for one out? One out! .... Whatever.

No, he couldn't pitch an inning for his team to win a once in a lifetime tournament.  Has he had a real clutch hit vs. a good pitcher with the game on the line? If so , I don't recall.

jeraf

Quote from: Harry Carey on March 28, 2014, 05:31:00 PM
No, he couldn't pitch an inning for his team to win a once in a lifetime tournament.  Has he had a real clutch hit vs. a good pitcher with the game on the line? If so , I don't recall.

HC, I believe the Clovis Cougars are a TEAM.  That means Gatewood is not the savior for the Cougars.  They win and lose as a TEAM.  I'm pretty sure, that you don't know nothing of this young man, nor could even conceive what the Coaches want to do, as far a TEAM strategy goes.  The Clovis Cougars, just placed 2nd in an Elite Field of National Baseball Teams, and that's pretty damn good in my book.  For you to call out this young man is just classless, and seems to lean at a possible hidden agenda towards him.

valleyfan

I agree Jake is a great young man and a team player. Clovis did a great job in the toughest tourney out there. Lets just be proud of the great job this team did.

Ty Cobb

Quote from: valleyfan on March 31, 2014, 10:38:46 AM
I agree Jake is a great young man and a team player. Clovis did a great job in the toughest tourney out there. Lets just be proud of the great job this team did.

A great young man for sure. As are the other 23 players on the team. Throwing an inning or two for his team? A batter or two? That's too much to ask? Really? ....... Do you guys really believe that the great shortstops in todays MLB didn't throw some innings for their High School team? Please!

Id love to get the Pagmeters view point on this.

jeraf

Quote from: Ty Cobb on March 31, 2014, 01:25:31 PM
A great young man for sure. As are the other 23 players on the team. Throwing an inning or two for his team? A batter or two? That's too much to ask? Really? ....... Do you guys really believe that the great shortstops in todays MLB didn't throw some innings for their High School team? Please!

Id love to get the Pagmeters view point on this.

TC, Gatewood let his Coach prior to spring training that he wouldn't be pitching at all.  Clovis didn't lose that game based on an inning or two.  For them to even reach the Finals was an enormous feat, given the talent of the teams at that tourney.  Clovis Cougars Baseball TEAM represented their school, city and the TRAC extremely well.  As for getting Pagmeters' point of view on this......who cares!!!!!!  Maybe you and Harry Carey can put together a baseball team and show us, how it's done...... :x

Clovis Cougars Baseball TEAM has an excellent group of young men playing for them, and I'm sure they don't think that Gatewood lost the game because he didn't pitch......I'm sure those young men played THEIR HEARTS OUT, and Gatewood (to them) is just another piece of the puzzle, for their team, WIN or Lose!!!!!

Ty Cobb

Quote from: jeraf on March 31, 2014, 05:30:53 PM
TC, Gatewood let his Coach prior to spring training that he wouldn't be pitching at all.  Clovis didn't lose that game based on an inning or two.  For them to even reach the Finals was an enormous feat, given the talent of the teams at that tourney.  Clovis Cougars Baseball TEAM represented their school, city and the TRAC extremely well.  As for getting Pagmeters' point of view on this......who cares!!!!!!  Maybe you and Harry Carey can put together a baseball team and show us, how it's done...... :x

Clovis Cougars Baseball TEAM has an excellent group of young men playing for them, and I'm sure they don't think that Gatewood lost the game because he didn't pitch......I'm sure those young men played THEIR HEARTS OUT, and Gatewood (to them) is just another piece of the puzzle, for their team, WIN or Lose!!!!!

No idea if him throwing an inning or an out would have made a difference. Don't know and don't care. Nor is there any debate that the team played their heart out all though you seem to want it to be about that. Whatever. I'm simply pointing out that throwing an inning, a game or an out would have any change on what will be a fantastic future for a great player like himself. I'm sure as are you that many if not all MLB SS pitched for their HS. Nuff said.

ETKilla

Quote from: Ty Cobb on April 01, 2014, 08:44:41 AM
No idea if him throwing an inning or an out would have made a difference. Don't know and don't care. Nor is there any debate that the team played their heart out all though you seem to want it to be about that. Whatever. I'm simply pointing out that throwing an inning, a game or an out would have any change on what will be a fantastic future for a great player like himself. I'm sure as are you that many if not all MLB SS pitched for their HS. Nuff said.

Its a moot point here TY.  He will not be pitching this year so it feels like your calling him out.  Im sure MANY SS, 3B, OF, pitched for their high school team, but he is not the kids working with the pitching staff this year.  That being said, who's to say he would have done a better job? 
Mike Jones.  Who?  Mike Jones.  281-330-8004

Ty Cobb

Quote from: ETKilla on April 01, 2014, 09:08:47 AM
Its a moot point here TY.  He will not be pitching this year so it feels like your calling him out.  Im sure MANY SS, 3B, OF, pitched for their high school team, but he is not the kids working with the pitching staff this year.  That being said, who's to say he would have done a better job? 

ET I agree! That's why I said "no idea if it would have made a difference" Don't know and don't care. Im not calling anyone out other than the posters who feel throwing a few innings is some kind of disaster in the waiting. LOL .... Hell the pitchers throw every week. All Im saying is "if" it could have helped it should have been an available option. In other words .. There is no reason for it not to be an available option. I get that its because "they said no pitching" Get that 100% !!! .... I just don't see the logic behind the reason. In fact I still have not heard anyone state the reason. Anyway the tourney is over. Back to the TRAC

panthers21

Nice to see a valley team, represent.

bpstud

Quote from: Ty Cobb on April 01, 2014, 10:12:28 AM
ET I agree! That's why I said "no idea if it would have made a difference" Don't know and don't care. Im not calling anyone out other than the posters who feel throwing a few innings is some kind of disaster in the waiting. LOL .... Hell the pitchers throw every week. All Im saying is "if" it could have helped it should have been an available option. In other words .. There is no reason for it not to be an available option. I get that its because "they said no pitching" Get that 100% !!! .... I just don't see the logic behind the reason. In fact I still have not heard anyone state the reason. Anyway the tourney is over. Back to the TRAC

If you haven't heard a reason as to why the kid isn't pitching, then you can't agree or disagree with the logic of the kid not pitching. To my knowledge, none of the Clovis coaches are making a big deal out of it. Leave it alone and root for your TEAM!
When you're prepared, you're more confident. When you have a strategy, you're more comfortable.

ETKilla

Welcome to the conversation BP lol. Where u been? 
Mike Jones.  Who?  Mike Jones.  281-330-8004

Sixtynine

This is a late Good luck for the NC tourny
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

DodgersFan66

Clovis will be very strong in the playoffs. They will most certainly need all of their guys healthy to defeat buchannan. But remember that Patrick has a strong bench that can do a lot!

DodgersFan66