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Started by izne1home, September 18, 2025, 11:13:50 AM

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Timmy Winn

Quote from: izne1home on September 25, 2025, 02:43:18 PMGiven the widespread public disapproval and disdain towards Kimmel's remarks, do you believe ABC would have disregarded them or merely reprimanded him if the FCC and Trump had remained silent? 



No. ABC/Disney wouldn't have done ANYTHING. That's the problem. They were pressured by the FCC via DJT. Plus Kimmel's remarks weren't inflammatory. He didn't even say anything about Kirk. He said the shooter was MAGA and why was the admin trying to paint it differently. He was probably wrong and it was irresponsible to make a declaration but it was no one near as bad as what lots of people were saying publicly or on socials about Kirk or their joy in his assassination. The snowflakes were out in full force and in cancel mode. And ABC/Disney were scared of our great American dictator. Get out of your bubble dude. There wasn't widespread disdain coming from anyone other than this brainwashed death cult you call the GOP.

izne1home

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As your response confirms, the controversy over Kimmel's remarks has been eclipsed by the national uproar around free speech and government intervention.  Rather than discussing whether Kimmel's comments about Kirk's killer were inappropriate and deserved a network response or if they were simply more of his typical criticism of Trump, the focus has shifted to arguments about censorship and political pressure stemming from the involvement of Trump and the FCC, which we agree was an error. 

I thought Kimmel's comments were inappropriate and inflammatory, but that was clearly his intent.  Kimmel is smart enough to know that Trump would overreact in the wake of Kirk's shooting.  I have no issue with Kimmel's constitutional right to speak his mind, cater to his audience, inflame his opponents, and goad Trump into reacting.  I also respect his employer's right to respond as it sees fit if Kimmel violates policy or the public is no longer buying what Kimmel is selling.  That would have made for a much more engaging debate. But that ship has sailed, and we have now apparently gone to battle stations.   

I think you've already answered the question, but let me rephrase it.  Given the widespread disapproval and disdain towards Kimmel's remarks within the GOP and other like-minded viewers, do you believe ABC would have disregarded them or merely reprimanded him if the FCC and Trump had remained silent?

BallGuy

Quote from: izne1home on September 26, 2025, 12:02:59 PMAs your response confirms, the controversy over Kimmel's remarks has been eclipsed by the national uproar around free speech and government intervention.  Rather than discussing whether Kimmel's comments about Kirk's killer were inappropriate and deserved a network response or if they were simply more of his typical criticism of Trump, the focus has shifted to arguments about censorship and political pressure stemming from the involvement of Trump and the FCC, which we agree was an error. 

I thought Kimmel's comments were inappropriate and inflammatory, but that was clearly his intent.  Kimmel is smart enough to know that Trump would overreact in the wake of Kirk's shooting.  I have no issue with Kimmel's constitutional right to speak his mind, cater to his audience, inflame his opponents, and goad Trump into reacting.  I also respect his employer's right to respond as it sees fit if Kimmel violates policy or the public is no longer buying what Kimmel is selling.  That would have made for a much more engaging debate. But that ship has sailed, and we have now apparently gone to battle stations. 

I think you've already answered the question, but let me rephrase it.  Given the widespread disapproval and disdain towards Kimmel's remarks within the GOP and other like-minded viewers, do you believe ABC would have disregarded them or merely reprimanded him if the FCC and Trump had remained silent?


I'd argue they would have done nothing. There wasn't really any outrage or uproars at all after the remarks UNTIL DT commented on it. Also, I'm not sure Trump ever saw the monologue. I think someone told him about it, and he went on his tirade. In England Trump commented on the Kimmel thing and said something to the affect-he said some awful things about a great man that died. Which just simply never happened.

I've railed about this for years now. The right's news and the left's news are not the same. There is not "middle" news. Add social media algos and it's just a flame to gasoline. Until both sides come into arguments seeking to understand versus win, no one will get anywhere. This will never happen, so we are just destined to be in this flawed two party system for the foreseeable.

eylchamps

Quote from: BallGuy on September 29, 2025, 09:11:23 AMI'd argue they would have done nothing. There wasn't really any outrage or uproars at all after the remarks UNTIL DT commented on it. Also, I'm not sure Trump ever saw the monologue. I think someone told him about it, and he went on his tirade. In England Trump commented on the Kimmel thing and said something to the affect-he said some awful things about a great man that died. Which just simply never happened.

I've railed about this for years now. The right's news and the left's news are not the same. There is not "middle" news. Add social media algos and it's just a flame to gasoline. Until both sides come into arguments seeking to understand versus win, no one will get anywhere. This will never happen, so we are just destined to be in this flawed two party system for the foreseeable.

I agree with the second paragraph. All the Trumpers run to Fox news to get their daily ration of their side of the story. CNN and MSNBC for the rations of the left side of the story. We have no one neutral, unbiased and truthful. Both sides want to be the truth teller and the correct news when they are both wrong. We are in this system because both sides refuse to give up power. They work together behind the scenes but create this illusion of division and sides. The people see this and act accordingly.
WYL wishes they were the EYL

Timmy Winn

PBS has traditionally been neutral and CSPAN is raw footage for the most part and extremely neutral in nature. The problem there is that americans are too lazy to try to understand what they are watching and they need someone to tell them what they think and they need to see the emotion behind that so they know how to feel. We're in a bad spot. 

izne1home

Quote from: BallGuy on September 29, 2025, 09:11:23 AMI've railed about this for years now. The right's news and the left's news are not the same. There is not "middle" news. Add social media algos and it's just a flame to gasoline. Until both sides come into arguments seeking to understand versus win, no one will get anywhere. This will never happen, so we are just destined to be in this flawed two party system for the foreseeable.

Try Ground News.

izne1home

Quote from: Timmy Winn on September 29, 2025, 10:02:24 PMPBS has traditionally been neutral and CSPAN is raw footage for the most part and extremely neutral in nature. The problem there is that americans are too lazy to try to understand what they are watching and they need someone to tell them what they think and they need to see the emotion behind that so they know how to feel. We're in a bad spot.

Regardless of your political slant, both sides are racing towards Idiocracy.

izne1home